>rust is garbage
>don't starve is too cartoony (but still a good game)
>stranded deep went to shit due to dev incompetence
>terrafirmacraft is missing a ton of features and runs like shit because it's modded minecraft
>most other shovelware survival games are all garbage
Will we ever get a truly great primitive survival game?
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UnReal World is good
you mean this? not exactly what I had in mind
into the far north we shall take you
Try a little /out/ or /diy/ sometime.
Youtube seems to be shilling this guy's channel, I'm glad since his videos are quite good.
>robinson's requiem
try to survive one fucking day without poisoning yourself or having to amputate something i double dog dare you
...
Stranded 2 comes to my mind. They are also doing a third one that will be 'more realistic'.
>Will we ever get a truly great primitive survival game?
No, because Survival games are shit based on the very premise of being a Survival game.
You are not supposed to be having a good time. You are supposed to be managing your character at the brink of death, scavenging randomly for items that may get you through the day, hoping to find/harvest edible food that will keep you alive for just a bit longer, fixing shit that is constantly wearing down and breaking, dealing with random bullshit attacking you, navigating a shitty environment that will fuck with you.
Survival games don't challenge you; they make you reset some death timers at regular intervals until it decides to not give you enough of what you need. OR you end up with so much resources in abundance that you're no longer "surviving", you're just playing the equivalent of Harvest Moon and doing a routine checklist of tasks with no further end goal or means to expand further.
Not primitive, but The Long Dark?
Fuck off, you'll never get what you want then you choosing beggar
Sounds about right.
Honestly I usually hate people shitting on subjective stuff but this is a pretty good write up about the problems with survival games. Devs cope with some of this by making them just get harder and harder for no reason.
No siellähän se on, kjäh kjäh.
You mean Alcoholic Clown Broken Marriage Simulator: Wolves are Cunts for no Reason: the Game?
Is it bad? That's a shame. I haven't actually played it but heard it was good.
Elaborate?
Prepping us for the coming economic collapse. We will be burning clay and building mudbrick ziggurats all over again.
Jim Sterling gave him that opinion word for word
Still true though
inventorygasm
>doesn't say a word
>no begging for like, subscribe and follow us on Facebook and Twitter
>responds to and thanks people in the comments
>has millions of views and subscribers
He's so fucking based, and he probably doesn't even know it
High retention rate, people who watch him once watch him again. Thats why he gets recommended a lot.
You forgot
>writes up everything he is doing, and why he's doing it, in the subtitles
Don't wanna break it to you but most of what he is doing has been done before. Literally nothing new if you like this kind of content on Youtube. The only difference here is he does not speak and really show it to you step by step. Most other channels will just do one like one brick, not show parts that's obvious or common sense and will just do part of a house/building if they even do and it looks like it will not last because it was not meant to last as it is only for that one video.
It's tedious and there are loads of immersion breaks.
>Long periods of walking with absolutely nothing to explore.
>Sprinting can only be done in short bursts, and makes you tired faster, and burns calories, but does not warm you up at all.
>Can't jump or mantle shit, you can be stopped dead in your tracks by thinks like a 6 inch step up onto a porch.
>Little incentive to explore anyway if you've already got decent gear
>In game time is fast as hell even when you aren't crafting shit, a 5 minute walk out of a town and across a small field takes most of a day
>Wolves are dicks who will beeline on you and attack even when you aren't carrying anything that attracts them, even when they're alone or isolated from a pack, even when they are injured, even when you're chucking torches and flares at them, and even when you shoot them in the goddamn face.
>Oh, you can't fight of wolves with just ANYTHING. Nosiree. Can't sharpen a fucking stick with a rock. Can't pry a board off a barricaded window. Can't punch out a car window and wrap some cloth around a shard of glass. You can't even melee them unless they tackle you, and then you have to have specific gear to do so.
>If a building is boarded up, you can't get into it. Not even with a goddamn crowbar that they give you to break into car trunks.
>Can only carry about 60 lbs before the PC bitches CONSTANTLY about weight. Weight limit goes down based on how tired you are, and includes worn clothes. No consideration for things like weight distribution.
>Story mode is a bunch of fetch quests, made more tedious by short in game days and long slow walks to fetch things.
>Everyone looks like a goddamn clown with pale white faces, rosy cheeks, and a bright red alcoholic tumblr nose.
>Everyone has some sort of broken marriage or bad relationship with family.
I could go on but I'm tired of typing.
so his videos are just really high quality
Stranded was real fucking good. I remember playing it a lot when I was younger. I didn't like sequel much, but it's a still good progress.
In case anyone doesn't know, his video has subtitles where he plainly explains what he is doing.
Survival Kids for GBC is the pinnacle of survival games. Can't fucking believe there is not a single game that ever beat Survival Kids.
And then there is Lost in Blue series which is steaming pile of dog shit, especially the first game.
The Long Dark was great last time I checked. Closest experience to Survival Kids I've ever had. Devs have been working on it for some time now and I think it's a good idea to check how is it now.
Not that high quality but bearable/watchable for most,
WHO WOULD WIN?
50,000 YEARS OF ABORIGINAL INGENUITY
or
1 GUY WITH A COUPLE SPARE WEEKENDS
Hey now, first LiB is alright as long as you're not dealing with the girl/playing as the girl.
>look at me i am so bitter and cynical us Sup Forumsermin righte?
The shame of it all was snowy conditions looked comfy. Everyone was doing spoopy woods or zombie shit, here it was just Canada.
But until you got a wolf coat and deer pants you couldn't do shit outside, not that there's anything to do anyway.
Pretty much the one white guy
I'd bet a lot of people who see his videos don't even know they are timelapsed
What? The fuck are you on about?
Yup. Most think he made that in one day.
>Yup. Most think he made that in one day.
It says in his notes under the video how many weeks it took. Stuff like "i had to skip 2 months of rain" and so on.
What about terrible padding (just getting out of the beach takes real-time 5 minutes and most of the in-game day)?
What about atrocious bow hunting?
I really tried to like this game, but after a few hours I just couldn't take it anymore.
I don't remember much about the sequels apart from that I hated them as much as the firstgame. If you played them can you tell me a bit about them? Maybe they are worth another shot after all.
>b-but he didn't invent the concept!
What are you even trying to say
And one one reads that. Most people have questions that are answered if they read the description but they don't because it's a huge rambling wall of text which is only interesting for people wanting to try or really know what he is doing and not just watch this guy play minecraft live or some shit.
his newest video has about 5 million views in 12 hours. in terms of survival and primitive technology videos this is crazy - that many people arent interested in these things, so how has he done so well? why are people that arent interested in survival techniques so obsessed with him ?
even being a reddit icon still doesnt get those views.
Maybe they think he's handsome/sexy
He is a Facebook icon, people share his videos.
Early on mirrors of his videos on Facebook got 50 million views, and they weren't even uploaded by him.
BROWN BRICKS
OP I know exactly what you mean. Our existance is suffering waiting for THE perfect survival game. Even though the genre is saturated all of the games fall short.
>3D, pretty graphics
>set on random alien planet
>weather system which can be really comfy or can fuck your shit up
>natural disasters happen occasionally
>map so large that it really feels like exploring vast wilderness like Unreal World
>high difficulty stemming from punishing you for making the wrong decisions (and then you learn from your mistakes)
>not artificial difficulty (bulletsponge enemies, low durability weapons)
>still easy to die if you're stupid (permadeath)
>game is played on a multiplayer server but you rarely see others (like Haven & Hearth)
>can hide in bushes and stuff to avoid pvp
>tons of flora and fauna to interact with
>lots of skill trees which open new craftables/buildings etc
Someone needs to make it.
I wish Haven and Hearth would take the leap and become a good game. It's just never going to get there only being worked on by two people and continuing to cater to the few very autistic PVPers that play it religiously.
Are there any games that can match the experience of this book?
RL, but that is probably too hardcore for you.
I was thinking either an expanded terrafirmacraft or a more realistic and better looking rust without modern weapons etc would be best
no need for alien planets or anything, though i do agree that a steep difficulty curve is a must have but not so bullshit that you need to watch 10 hours of tutorials to pick it up at first.
Didn't that book describe the pilot shitting himself in detail after he died? Haven't read it since middle school but that's one of the few things I remember
I don't remember that part but I read it back in elementary school. Liked it so much I read like 4 books in the series
Being mostly blind for the first 1/4 would be great fun
I lurk the forums all the time and I've seen the same few autists who've been playing it for years. And if any update happens that might make the game harder for pvp they go apeshit. Fuck you faggots, I just want a nature survival sim not ebin pvp and griefing people's work.
And the fish eating his corpse and the boy thinks about the fish hes been eating are full of dead pilot.
Pretty much, PVP is great and should be a part of the game but it's never truly been PVP, it's always been asshattery and douchebag enabling mechanics. The game itself doesn't have great long term content so many people quit while the PVP autists scare off everyone else that might be having fun.
I just want a bigger world, more things to build, reasons and places to explore, and a better trade/market system.
Upon further thinking of it, you are actually right.
Tried 2 and while it was sort of an improvement over the first I quit it rather quickly
3 just pure unfiltered garbage.
I remember reading a games magazine back in like 2000-3, and the rewiever totally shat on this game because of how difficult and complicated it was. I don´t know, maybe the game mechanics were just explained badly.
I just wish he would do something else than another furnace or clay related thing. His yam field and shrimp catching is just more interesting.
i'm not going to disagree with you about abos being dumb as shit and never doing anything in the thousands of years they were there, but i think its fair to say the primitive technology guy looked up how to do all the shit he's done, or was in one way or another taught how to do it. he didn't think of all this shit himself, surely
I think he's really really focused in getting iron tools before complex projects.
I'm sure he's working on agriculture too but it's just that that takes a fuckload of time, just check the notes for his other videos.
He literally invented a specific tool, the Bow Blower. It's completely useless in modern society but it's the kind of ingenuity that shows he's not just reading stuff in books.
Yeah, also the fact that a large portion of the community (no surprise many Russians) believes botting is cool and nobody should be punished for it. And they have a huge advantage because they can get away with it.
bow blower is not new
i played it once based on a reccomendation in a thread just like this one a few months ago, i'd watched a few youtube videos on it as well and it looked really cool
then i downloaded it and played it and it had this really just fucking awful 3d aesthetic. not at all like the screenshots/videos i'd seen. also everything was like 400ms but i suppose thats to be expected when you live in aus
A specific tool which which wasn't already made because it's useless.. and another invention from centuries ago probably already accomplishes the purpose.. and the Bow Blower has probably been invented already by some other fag before, but nobody realises because it's fucking useless.
sugoi...
It is.
I think Australia's law is restricting him. It would be great if he could hunt some animals. And use the skin for leather works. And dry the meat or smoke it.
I will admit I fucking suck at this kind of thing, but does leather have any actual use for survival besides the stuff he's already wearing?
>most of what he is doing has been done before
>making mud huts and primitive tools has been done before
STOP THE FUCKING PRESSES
but it's not, it's just incredibly obscure because better and easier methods were available like having your apprentice use a pipe to literally just blow into the forge or use a fan with a tunnel
Okay, prove the same tool existed before.
I expect now you'll say "omg it's so obscure there are no records". Give that guy a break. I didn't say it was impressive or a good invention, just that it showed initiative.
Dunno, I'm not good at it either. Maybe sew the skins together for warm clothes/boots when it's winter time.
benis :DDDD
He's never said anything of the sort. It's just accruing the metal from iron-oxidising bacteria takes a really long time.
because his video is comfy.
>the nature is the background noise.
>No "Heeyyy Youtube, Whats up!!! I'm CAAAAVVVEEEDAAAAAAVVVEEEE!!! WEEEEEEWWWWWW"
>open new experiences to most people since nobody had any experience on primitive technologies
>responsive to communities
>doesn't try to jew the system by shitting up a video once everyday, just taking his own pace to come up with video once a month
Good for him to being successful.
I'm glad he made it like a normal sane person instead of making a fool out of himself to get views from retarded kids
Australia's (hunting) law?
women want him, men want to be him
Name of the game?
The Art of Blacksmithing by Alex W. Bealer
p.61,62
rotary blowers (unspecified hand operation)
I can't find the better source describing back-and-forth rotary blowers right now so I must apologise
Differs from state to state I would imagine, still hasn't stopped these kids
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>tfw I heard about this guy in one of the Sup Forums youtube channel threads when he posted one of his videos
thats a weak argument though
in the last 500 years all of those people knew how to do it aswell but just ... didn't
Sorry I really need to shill these two videos - I feel it's kind of related somehow:
>What? The fuck are you on about?
He's talking about your implication that you are a patrician because you watched some not-very-good neolithic tech videos before it was cool.
yeah and i wonder why he can look up all those things
NEO Scavenger, it's really fucking good
if you want survival you need fur
leather is a luxury they used for work clothes for extra padding and protection against sparks and hot slag with smithings
Fuck me videos like this reminds me that we are just animals no better than the pigs we cut up
Fucking meat industry, makes me want to become a vegan
Fun and comfy to watch. Also really helps that it has none of the overused, annoying shit that makes you close a video at the start or midway through nowadays.
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Shut the fuck up, pussy
Go out and hunt your own food if you don't like the meat industry, oh wait, you can't because you're a little pussy
>Fucking meat industry, makes me want to become a vegan
Are you fucking twelve? Those videos are extremely comfy.
>And I'm not arsed reading any of it because I'm a cunt.
>try to play UnReal World
>spend hours rerolling stats
EVERY TIME
>Survival Kids
Lmao it's really sad because it's true
Yeah how dare other people eat different things to me.
Neo Scavenger
I hope you read the vegan post again and see the irony of your comment.
>Fuck me videos like this reminds me that we are just animals no better than the pigs we cut up
>Fucking meat industry, makes me want to become a vegan
Don't see anyone telling other people what to eat here.