Hypothetically speaking, if cost wasn't an issue...

Hypothetically speaking, if cost wasn't an issue. How powerful could Nintendo have made the Switch and still kept it in the same sized package? How much more might it cost?

>if cost wasn't an issue
>how much more might it cost?
Broken logic detected

What I mean is how much power could be fit into the size of the console and how much more expensive would it be.

My wording was kinda flawed but I meant like, IF there wasn't the need to keep the console at 300-400 dollars.

Does it need to have the same battery life at minimum?

There isnt really any other powerfull SOCs, so maybe a Pascal based tegra?

Intel atom is too hot and only has support for their igp or for PowerVR shit and since PowerVR is now owned by applel the it isnt am option

Apple's socs are not THAT powerful, you dont tale geekbench as a reliable benchmark because it isnt, and it lacks a lot of licenced gpu features, the only apis it really supports are from apple and if you have developed for an iphone 7 for example, you would know that it is shit, phones are not getting four times more powerfull like marketing says but there have been a lot of breakthroughs, yes.

ARM pretty much only sells designs, if they sold nintendo a """simple""" Quadcore A73 with some mali GPU taped to it, it would have been announced as a nintendo original soc, also the latest from arm gets real hot even on the latest 14nm variation

Samsung is very careful with who they license their designs to, they recently made their own cpu cores and i bet they are also making an original gpu, but they are almost on the same level as Qualcomm

Qualcomm is the last option, they are the niggers of the Soc industry, they give close to zero documentation and their drivers suck shit, they have half assed hardware support for every api or meme feature available, they seriously ship products without any testing or any safety concern.

A big big-corporation type batch of Tegra X2 is like 7 dollars more for each piece, i dont know, it is not more than 20 for sure, but using a soc with a higher tdp raises costs for other parts like the heatsink or the body or the battery, but they already make a good profit off the console alone so who knows, maybe they could sell it for 300 dollars anyways, no one would buy a 400 dollars ds or psp.

t. worked at foxconn and part time app developer

I guess that would be the biggest limiting factor? Could they have made it more powerful with everything else if it cost another 200? Or would more power require a much bigger battery that wouldnt even fit?

The nvidia chip is heavily downclocked because of battery life and heat.

Power isn't the big problem. They could easily put a wide variety of chipsets into the Switch to make it extremely powerful, by any standards.

The big problems are heat distribution and battery life.

Hypothetically speaking, if cost wasn't an issue. How powerful could Nintendo have made the Switch if they stopped clutching onto their outdated system of releasing marketable gimmick after marketable gimmick?

Tegra X1 was the best they could do for now.

Any more and they'd have to use an APU with Laptop RAM, not ARM/Mobile tech. Battery life would not be grand. That or a 2018-2019 release depending on whether or not NVidia would be willing to make its own take on BiFrost technology.

>new iPhone costs $1,000
How expensive do you want it?

Is an iphone more powerful than a Switch?

Cost isn't the problem. It's the size, the battery, where to get more power and still make it run for 3-6 hours.

>marketable gimmick
I'm sorry you never had a handheld console. It's not a new gimmick, user. Try some Game Boy games, it had a few good ones, you might like it.

Thanks for the insight, very interesting.

Currently the next best thing is the Tegra X2 but its too bulky and would lead to more heating issues and a battery that is nearly unusable

>if cost wasn't an issue
>other stronger device than Switch is $100 cheaper
Really jiggle my nuggle.

Wait, hol up, the Switch is a handheld? Then why are retards comparing it to Xbone and PS4?

It's something of a hybrid.

You can take it on the go as a handheld but you can also very easily hook it up to a TV as a console.

>pretending to just find out what the Switch is like
For what purpose?

>You can take it on the go as a handheld but you can also very easily hook it up to a TV as a console.
you can hook it up to a TV, but that doesn't make it a console any more than hooking a laptop up makes it a desktop

That's not true.

I don't know why they are comparing it either, it's going to have software lineups that will sack the competition at their best something chronic in a years time, it just seems like an unfair comparison going forwards.

It's true.

>Doesn't name the device
Huh,I wonder if he's lying

It does everything a console does when hooked to a tv though.

And if you had a laptop with a detachable keyboard and mouse and exclusively played it on a bigger monitor it might as well be a desktop.

Because if you use deliberately flawed logic you can shut on it to earn internet points.

The switch is fine but a bit overpriced.

Is the Switch still significantly underclocked while docked? Would it melt or something if you ran it full pelt when it's plugged in and battery life is no issue?

The dock already makes some Switches bend from the heat when trying to run Zelda at 900p, asking any more power from it would turn it into a literal toaster.

It's the Vita I'm talking about

This. I'd buy one in a heartbeat, but opted to settle for a 3DS for now until there's a price drop.

>shita
>more powerful
...

>more powerful

Tegra is a work of fucking art and shitcunts like Nintendo are handling it. This industry is fucked.

do elaborate and how they're handling it

I just imagined the dock ejecting the switch when it's done toasting

Nvidia is handling the hardware. Dunno about the details but you can check them in the day the Switch was revealed in some blogpost by NVidia.

> power
> portability

Pick one

Doesn't have a dedicated GPU but with Switch size we can do that, and yes the iPhone cpu is a lot stronger.

Even if you had the alchemy skills to shove a gtx1080 into a 7 inch tablet there's still the power consumption problem, phones for example shut themselves down every 30 seconds, are constantly in power saving mode and when you DO use them they last for 2 hours, even expensive ones like the iPhone.

We just don't have the battery technology, and if the government has it it's not giving it to foreign companies.

Unless battery technology gets a big improvement overnight, I doubt they could do much more using the same proportions of the device, even if people dont care at how much it would cost.

The Switch doesn't get hot enough to bend the Switch.

By using the X2 tegra chip instead of the underclocked X1 like the rumors.
About 50 more bucks

Tegra X2 & a bigger battery

Double the bandwidth, higher clockspeeds & async compute

But fuck that, Nintendo can charge you $300 for 2015 hardware instead

How is it vs. the Nvidia Shield?

Pretty sure the vita's not more powerful, but it was made like 5 years earlier.

Your wording isn't flawed. either has poor reading comprehension or is being an ass.

Switch fuel can't melt steel Switches

and also overheats in 5 minutes and shuts down, or has a huge size increase for a cooling system

why is Sup Forums so fucking tech illiterate?

CPU? Yes. GPU? Debatable. More importantly though the Iphone doesn't have the thermal design to run their chip at a high clock speed for 3 hours

So when they release the Switch Pro in late 2018 it will have 2017 hardware

man, $300 for the Switch is a good price since it makes like $270 to manufacture. What you described could cost like $400-$500 and then nobody would buy it. Nintendo isn't stupid or ripping people off; They designed a console around the price point they could sell it at and it's succeeding.

it doesnt matter how powerful when nobody is going to buy it

The bent Switches were shipped like that, they don't bend from heat. The Switch automatically shuts off when it reaches dangerous temperatures to prevent damage, which only happens if you deliberately cover its vents.

>There isnt really any other powerfull SOCs, so maybe a Pascal based tegra?
Snapdragon 835 probably outperforms Tegra X1 now graphically, definitely has a faster CPU.

>CPU? Yes. GPU? Debatable.
iPhone X's GPU is definitely faster than the Switch at least initially but as you point out, Switch has active cooling and the iPhone doesn't.

>and also overheats in 5 minutes and shuts down, or has a huge size increase for a cooling system
Tegra X2 has the same thermal profile as Tegra X1.

what's debatable is that, despite raw graphical power, the Iphone doesn't have the same API support that the tegra does. they couldn't have made mario odyssey for the iphone even if they wanted to

The Switch actually shuts down before it reaches 60 degrees celsius. And naturally it's normally not even close to even that.
But even that is most likely far cooler than your PC or other game consoles. Some of which might go almost 50% hotter than the Switch.

But here is the thing. Even if the Switch was to go to like 150 degrees celsius or something absolutely crazy, which would never happen but if we were to just imagine that it would. It still wouldn't bend.
Plastic like that does not bend. The material is even heat and cool treated during manufacturing which is where it solidifies at its final shape. Now if the plastic is bent at that moment in time, it'll stay bent afterwards too so tough luck if it's bent. But after that process, it won't bend.

And all of this is even without even adressing the metal frame on the inside of the Switch. Which makes the idea of the Switch bending even more ridiculous.
The lies and crap some people will reiterate just to slander is ridiculous.

I'd pay $500 for BoTW 60fps

probably 20-30% more powerful than the Vita, whatever that means. And it would be like $800

Maybe you would, but MOST people wouldn't. that's why there is only one console retailing for $499 instead of all of them

I think the only sad thing for me when it comes to Nintendo not creating much more powerful consoles is that they'd be able to handle demanding games that would look incredible, because they'd never be lazy and make unoptimised pieces of shit like virtually every AAA title that's spewed out

Short story, nothing worth your time for the size.

The switch will shut down before the temperature reaches a point at which the plastic becomes pliable