FFXIV

How did this MMORPG surpass World of Warcraft in terms of fun while other clones went F2P and failed?

by being good

This but also brand recognition and nostalgia pandering

All MMOs suck.

ESO is better

this game is fucking trash, userbase is full of mentally ill weebs

use discord to find likeminded people then

ESO is low quality

You are aware that a shitton of stuff simply can't be implemented into the game because of ''server restrictions''? How many times has Yoshi used that excuse when asked about new features? The source code off ff14 is absolute trash.

This is true

At launch it was terrible, but now it's basically become a complete TES game

imagine being this objectively wrong.

i leveled a paladin to 35 the game was not fun

It's easy: copy WoW before it went to shit, make it more solo-friendly with a lot of side activities so even casuals would find themselves something to do and slap Final Fantasy paint on it.

It's another "If you don't do OS with pugs straight on tuesday you're stuck to wiping on every fucking mechanic with shit groups" group.

Fuck this, i need a static.

I've tried twice to get into this game. I really want to understand why so many people are playing it but the beginning is SO fucking boring.

Some one please tell me it gets better? Why do people play this?

Thats because you played PLD early my friend

>a complete TES game
Does that mean it lets you tack 40 mods onto it to make the gameplay marginally bearable? At least, modern TES aren't complete until you do so.

>How did this MMORPG surpass World of Warcraft in terms of fun while other clones went F2P and failed?

Cross-Platform release

What job are you playing?

it's not a solo friendly game at all. you have to party up since lv15 and this continues until the end of the game

>Why do people play this?
Glamour, emotes, crafting/gathering, housing/decorating. Only about 10% are interested in endgame raids.

>Does that mean it lets you tack 40 mods onto it to make the gameplay marginally bearable?
Christ, I thought the summer was over.

I played it up to the end of the story then peaced out, so I can't talk about the raiding or anything like that

The beginning is shit for most classes because tab target with 3 abilities makes you feel like a retard shoving squares into holes, if you want something a little faster I'd play pugilist/monk
The story is garbage at first, drops to complete shit after the Praetorium or whatever it's called, then gets better through Heavensward before going back to forgettable milquetoast in stormblood

It is. You don't have to cooperate. Most of the casual content can be completed on auto-pilot.

How is it "summer" to imply that you need mods to make a Bethesda game bearable? It's common sense.

>vanilla TES fags
Looks like summer wasn't over after all.

Took me 3 times.

The thing that got me through leveling was actually paying attention to the story, the first 1/3rd of it is pretty bad, but it gets really good later on and is a surprisingly good driving force.

I personally like it because time spent logged in never feels wasted.
I spent so much time in WoW sitting in a capital city, waiting for groups, waiting for queues, waiting for friends.
XIV almost always has something for you to do. There's a million ways to progress, theres softcore content, midcore content, and hardcore, and a heaping portion of it is puggable.

People like it and keep playing it because XIV always has SOMETHING for you. It's an MMO where when you get bored, it usually has another avenue for you to explore.

TLDR: Instead of getting bored and playing something else, XIV constantly has carrots for you to chase and variety in those choices, with meaningful rewards at the end.

It's not a Bethesda game, it was made by Zenimax online. Secondly, it is quite bearable, just not for summerfags.

>drops to complete shit after the Praetorium
t. Kirito
must've been rough when the entire world turns against your avatar

The original post was talking about general "TES game". Leave it to summerfags to fail basic reading comprehension though.

no no the part where the potato conspiracy turns your paramilitary organization against you and forces you to seek asylum in fantasy North Korea was great
i'm talking about the primal of the week bullshit that you have to slog through for ~100 quests before you get there

ah yes everybody hated that

It didn't. It has less players than BDO, GW2 and WoW and it's stilll going down because Yoshi's retarded 'you play when I tell you to play' doesn't work. Also, the game just reinforces everything that's wrong with MMOs gameplay-wise.

Legitimately the most boring MMO out.

>all that boring patch content.
>they finally introduce a character with personality, who isn't a fucking boring stoic robot.
>fucking kill her off like a patch later.

Is this what's gonna happen to Fordola and Yotsuyu?
It seems like they always fucking do this.

I'm still fucking mad.

>Is this what's gonna happen to Fordola and Yotsuyu?
These characters don't have personality, but I do wish they get killed off later down the line because they're insufferable cunts who talk like xXxS4Suk3xXx.

>it's still going down
Somebody post the piechart again.
Lying on the internet is bad

>in terms of fun
This is a pure lie.

It is a TES game, just not made by Bethesda. Damn you need to try harder in English class. I bet you're one of those people who bitch about how they couldn't get into Morrowind because of combat and graphics.

And this is a lie too

And if you weren't a dyslexic retard you'd immediately realize "it needs mods to function" refers to Bethesda-made TES.
I mean, another person got the joke while it zipped straight past your birdbrain.

Its a really slow start, but, the story gets to be alright. Better then most MMO's. Epic fights have lots of story leading into many of them. Its one of those games where you need to hit a certain level to start enjoying the story.

Level 25ish lets you get your first big fight. Level 50 marks major improvements in story. Heavensward is very decent story, and many classes have particularly good stories, like DRK or MCH.

The game at low level doesn't show that high level is a highly active game. You slog through the massive GCD on skills, and you think the game will suck later on, still. Instead, the game is built around giving you attacks that weave into those GCD. Buffs that must be woven in with attacks and so on. This game has none of the leveling slowness at later levels.

Its also got challenging content that makes you move. Visually exciting content with damn good music.

>Play lancer on the trial up to lvl 30, the story is an uninteresting drag forced down your throat to advance and with over 40 minute queues. The combat is press the same sequence of 3 buttons all the time.
Dropped

>Play lancer
top kek here's your problem

>plays the most boring class of the most boring role
>hurdhur this game sux

The problem is that the 1/3 of the old skills and replaced it with the new ones that you get in SB. Yeah, early content plays like shit now.

What happened to the writers between HW and SB?

>slow walk up to Nidhogg at the climax of heavensward, Hraesvelgr gives you half his power, you actually feel like the main character for once
compared to
>just after you finish killing the most powerful primal ever summoned, lyse pushes you out of the way and sings a happy song with her friends

games alright, but agree on weebs
mfw their discord profile pic is animu-shit...

The classes just dont pop out. I tried tanking for a while and having to click the main attack button constantly makes the game a major chore, not only that but there are no aoe aggro grabbing abilities. The content seems way too easy as well, nothing is really interesting to play.
The specs dont really feel fun to play, even trying out the paladin type class or the summoner it still felt really boring.

Lyse is best girl, so it's okay.

But user just said he doesn't want to deal with mentally ill weebs

SB was shit but I wasn't kirito enough to care about my character being a superhero either
Also 3.x, a postgame patch vs 4.0, a base patch

As someone who is currently playing FFXIV and WoW it is of my honest opinion that while FFXIV does some things better than WoW such as the music and graphics, WoW still does alot of things better than FFXIV such as atmosphere, gameplay, and actual content.

I used to think FFXIV was better purely because you could play every job on one character but with how Acti-Blizz has been changing the formula with how alts work it's no-longer a massive chore to have alts. Not to mention you could argue that being 'locked" to a class/race combo adds "character".

FFXIV still has a long way to go before it can truly overtake WoW, and with the way things are headed it might not even reach that point. Yoshi and SE absolutely NEED to stop diverting resources and bring back their momentum. Patches are getting less and less content and it's all more of the same. At the very least WoW tries NEW shit with every expansion.

XIV isn't that good of a game. It does boss battles well, especially the presentation, and has good music. The story is good at very few points but mostly mediocre to downright bad. Other than that it's just a mess of failed or half baked ideas that other MMOs have done better, some decades ago.

it didnt

it isnt

fuck off back to >>/vg/ shills

>Not to mention you could argue that being 'locked" to a class/race combo adds "character".
I've played a million class locked games and never once did I feel this. It's just a way to artificially pad out your play time and potentially jew you.

Downloaded the free trial a few weeks ago but haven't touched it. Never played an MMO before and was kinda interested in it because I like Final Fantasy and because I want to be a catgirl. Will I enjoy it at all or will want to off myself due to boredom? I'll be playing on PS4 and I heard controller support isn't too bad. It took me 3 hours to create an account because apparently my old PSN had used my email to sign up for the trial like 2 years ago during the Halloween event.

>Far Eastern Noble's Attire being added to mogstation
So what is it? Yotsuyu's outfit? Hien's outfit?

>hien's low res turd being sold for $14.99

The sad thing is I'm sure there are idiots who would buy it

>want to level up another job
>share the accessories
>the stat weights are the complete fucking opposite of what i'm building
Ok
I hope skill speed isn't bad on DRG

At least you don't play MNK so you have crit accessories on your DRG that has no left-side crit gear

The Zenos fight is pretty fucking rad though, it's just that the following cutscenes completely shit on it.

That was a fucking slog, I just started a month ago and nearly quit after Ramuh because i got fucking furious. I was 55 when i was finally able to enter Ishgard and just rushed the msq.

Btw. who the fuck is the guy in the op pic I am 68 currently and have never ever seen that fucker.

>4 dungeons in expert roulette
>A fucking synced dungeon is still in expert
What the fuck yoshi.

It's supposed to be a self inserter's warrior of light

>paladin 30-50 consists of killing monkeys, piranhas and tanks with stuns and healsluts up the ass

ARR was some awful shit

Because it managed to live long enough to reach its second extension, which is usually when their respective MMO reach their best. It's all downhill from there, just look at how Everquest and WoW turned to shit after their (and also at the end of) their second extension.

It's the generic Warrior of Light that's in all the CG cutscenes fighting Lyse

It has a better art style than WoW and the clones

Great now feel like a retard

shitty hairstyle

The combat overhaul was a mistake.

Really? It looks like generic Asian MMO art style to me.

Can I get a quick run down of the plot of tactics? Want to be ready for the new raid

"generic asian MMO art" is supergloss shit in unreal engine though

I think this illustrates a bigger problem in AAA development, a lack of a strong project leaders. Often times a development project goes off the rails either due to internal disputes (managers butting heads), bike shed syndrome (too many opinions over trival features), or from too many cooks (no singular vision or leadership). Say what you want about FFXIV or Yoshi-P but at least its consistent in its vision and structure for the past 5 years.

pls

>two point five (2.5) second GCD
>fun
pick one and only one

just play your trial. as you can gather from this thread, some people sticked to it, some dropped out

It'll be boring at first.
It's an actual slog early on.

I and so many others love the game, but literally nobody will defend the early game.

Sorry user, if you want the reward you have to either cough up the money for a boost, or get some time invested in it.

If you love FF as a franchise, you might be more forgiving though.

spotted the lancer player

>playing Civilization 5.
>potentially infinite GCD.

I can't believe people even play shit like this.

>one game is an MMORPG
>the other is a 4X
nigger what are you doing comparing those

It didn't. It is exactly the same as WoW but with a weeb coat of paint.

The claim to the "Final Fantasy" franchise in its title MIGHT have something to do with it.

>comparing civ to ffxiv
what the fuck

Speaking of off-topic posting, I must be having a mild stroke because I honestly cannot recall a game called Final Fantasy XI ever existing or being talked about. In my head the world went X, X-2, and then XII

There are two writers.
Writer A and Writer B.

Writer A wrote Binding Coil of Bahamut, Heavensward MSQ, and the Doma section of Stormblood.

Writer B wrote the ARR main story, Alexander, and the Ala Mhigo portion of Stormblood.

Notice any trends?

That game was niche as shit
Also anybody who had an aneurysm about 2.5s gcd should look that up

>tfw you'll never drink a beer with Yoshi-P and laugh at all the Balmung shitters begging for a male bunny outfit.

Heres your mount bro

its a hoverboard on fire lol

>really fucking done with raiding because people are either shit, salty or both
>have leftover catalogs
zz

great more meme shit

I'm so angry they killed of Ilberd.
He was being set up as the perfect villain/rival for the Gyr Abania part of the MSQ and they just get rid of him in 3.5.
Hell, even Laurentius, whom we know since 2.0, just fucking vanishes after that patch.

WHAT IS THIS

What armor is that?

It's very probably the chink outfit they got several months ago (pic related).
The ideograms match on the online model viewer (東方貴人○○).

Correction: By becoming good, after starting off shit.

This guy's pretty on point. The game was a god damn mess before they got a lead that really gave a huge shit, and was willing to make some tough decisions for the sake of both the game and the Final Fantasy brand as a whole. You really need someone at the top who can see the big picture, and is able to really nail down what's important, compared to what isn't.

newest shit they're putting on the chink mogstation.
The mount is like $25.

Yo for real what set is that?