About a month now

About a month now.

Is it worth buying a monitor for it?

It's nowhere near powerful enough for 4k.

However it's the first console capable of running 1080p well, stick with the monitor you've already got and play in 1080p mode for the best experience.

>buying a system because it can output it's nogames at a high resolution

lmao nigga just get a pc. It has all the xbox games + most ps4 games + exclusives
Anything else is just silly.

Stick with a nice 1080p monitor. We all know this thing is just going to be PS4 Pro-2 Electric Boogaloo. You're either getting worse visual fidelity at a higher resolution or they're falling short of their FOUR KAY SIXTY EFF PEE ESS promise.

So, is the whole point of it is the ability to play in an outdated resolution, or is there something more?

What GPU equivalent does it have

Between the gtx1050ti and 1060, it's actually pretty good.

1080p isn't outdated, it's just low end. 4k is still at least 5 years off from becoming mainstream.

>1080p
>outdated resolution

You're the type of guy that makes a Best Buy sales associate's dick drip

welcome to consoles

The GPU isn't bad, but the CPU is weak nuts

>the gtx1050ti and 1060
>it's actually pretty good.
That's god awful if true.

>but the CPU is weak nuts
This its still the same outdated Jaguar CPU just overclocked, it was shit tier back then. You can only do so much with such a huge CPU bottleneck.

According to digital foundry's video it does native 4K in Rise of the Tomb raider but the performance is unstable and 30FPS capped in the native 4K mode.

The normal ps4/xbone get btfo by the 750 ti.

A 1050ti/1060 level of performance puts the xbone x at a similar level as mid/low end gaming pc's

By "4k" I mean relatively stable 60 fps high setting.

It can run games at """"4k"""", just at terrible settings/framerates, a bit like the ps4/xbone with 1080p

Doesn't it still have the same CPU tho

I think so, but it performs as well as a "average" pc with those graphics cards.

Nah, i'm good.

>Is it worth buying a monitor for it?
Absolutely not. Only a few games will be rendered at 4K. Just like the PS4Pro the vast majority of games will be rendered at an intermediate resolution (usually between 1400p and 1800p) and upscaled.

Honestly I haven't seen a bigger meme console than XboneX:
1) It's releasing at the tail end of the generation, meaning that it'll only be the "graphics powerhouse" for another 2 years at most, until next gen comes around. And guess what, next-gen console will probably be cheaper than XboneX or at worst cost the same, no one's dumb enough to cross the $500 mark. Just wait.

2) It costs $500. That's over double the price of a normal Xbone or PS4. But it doesn't double the framerates (still uses a nearly identical shitty CPU), nor does it render most games at 4K. For paying double one would expect a better outcome. It's just a PS4pro but with slightly better resolutions (still NOT 4K for the most part), costs $150 more, and came out a year too late. And I'm not even defending the PS4pro, I think it's a questionable product at best.

3) It changes none of Xbox's problems. XboneX won't bring new games, it's not creating new exclusives out of thin air, it's not acquiring new 1st party studios for the long-term health of the brand. Nothing. Nada. Zip. It's not even releasing with any new games, Crackdown3 was delayed till next year, and despite XboneX having a Halo easter-egg no Halo game will come out in the near future.
Seems like MS is releasing this with zero strategy on the software department. No improvements. Not sure why you'd want an Xbox this generation, regardless of its "power"

Just spend that money upgrading your PC man.

Mad as fuck PCunt. Don't you have Halo to play? OH WAIT!

No. Most of the games are not running at native 4K.

game?

That actually doesn't look very good at all. Is that supposed to be Battlefront 2?

>halo

Yeah it does old games in native 4K but going forward you can forget it unless they're super duper optimized.

PC has HaloCE and Halo2, as well as an unofficial online version of Halo3.
Are you seriously bragging about 343i's shitty Halo games? Man you reek of desperation.

PC does have Halo 1 and 2 though.

Even the standard PS4 can handle 1080p screens just fine.
>inb4 muh 60fps
That isn't related to the screen resolution. The reason they aren't targeting that is because of their games are designed to have a higher amount of AI and more intricate physics systems with more objects interacting etc.

>consoles might push tv manufactures to add high refresh rates and Freesync
I'm hopeful

>So, is the whole point of it is the ability to play in an outdated resolution
lets get something straight, you smarmy faggot
When you move away from an object, your angle of vision narrows. We don't have eagle eyes.
You might have seen the number 300DPI somewhere. And 72PPI.
At point blank range, 300 dots per inch, or pixels per inch, is the amount required for a clear picture.
For a fucking billboard on the highway that is meant for the eyes of people about 1km away, the DPI can be as low as 30, yet the image still appears just fine.
Another example would be some dickhead recording someone on the stage from very close by. He catches some glimpses on his phone of the background screens, of which you can noticbly seen individual pixels and they look like shit.
But the majority of the crowd watching those screens is _not at the front row_. Their angle of vision is narrowed; they can't see the fucking pixels.
Do you get it now shitcunt? 4k is near fucking useless at monitor viewing distances. Oh, sorry. I forgot, you were 'merely pretending' to be retarded.

Wait I thought the Xbox one x already came out? I know some people have them

Too bad DICE fucked it up again.

not the guy you replied to

i sit 2 feet away from my 35 inch screen
according to your graph that is just the perfect ratio for a 4K monitor

Is that supposed to be Battlefront 2?
Nope. It's the first one.

NO GAMES

>Halo2
2 0 0 4
0
0
4

YEAR OF MY SPAGHETTI MONSTER TWO THOUSAND AND FOUR

No, get a PC upgrade for your new monitor.

Aren't there TVs with high Hz for years now?
I've seen "100Hz" TVs using sports for promotions.

Buy a TV, not a monitor.

But it does native 4K on plenty of games.

Have pre-ordered and paid for 0 fucks, own every console and can't wait for something to take advantage of my big screen finally.

It's interpolated. An algorithm adds in frames that it thinks should be there

>60 fps isn't related to the screen resolution. The reason they aren't targeting that is because of their games are designed to have a higher amount of AI and more intricate physics systems with more objects interacting etc.
Are you fucking retarded? You don't honestly believe this do you? The reason they can't maintain 60fps is because the smartphone-tier CPU bottlenecks your piece of shit console. Some games even have dynamic resolution scaling to get a somewhat steady framerate going on consoles simply because the system is too weak.

>According to digital foundry's video it does native 4K in Rise of the Tomb raider but the performance is unstable and 30FPS
Who cares, Rise of the Tomb Raider is also on Xbox 360.

Calm down, he has a point

>more objects interacting
my bag and your tea.

Why do you lie? The GPU is literally a rx580.

You do realize that your post didn't disagree with my post right?
Take it from me as a programmer. The CPU in these consoles cannot do this type of physics and amount of AI at 60fps if they tried.

The dynamic resolution scaling is due to other factors like unoptimized graphics tech that more likely than not was build to scale on different hardware.
You don't see that much resolution scaling in PS4 exclusive games for instance.
Also the games you DO see resolution scaling on are 100% multiplat.

>Why do you lie? The GPU is literally a rx580.
It's not though, it's running at a lower clock speed and missing delta-color-compression.

>Worth Buying

>exclusive
really made me think

>It's not though, it's running at a lower clock speed
It's a little bit lower but it has 40 cu.
>missing delta-color-compression.
No

Anyway it's not a 1050ti at all in terms of power. I don't get why people bullshit so hard here.

Why would you ever think a console advertisement would aim for 60fps?

Even a PC with a 1080ti can't run new games at 4k while reliably getting a stable 60fps on high settings.

>Why do you lie? The GPU is literally a rx580.
Yeah why do you lie??

>uncharted 4 has sold better than the best selling game on the xbone

He would have a point if the games they were making actually had significantly more advanced AI and/or physics engines, but they don't.

Except its not.
First off, its still second-gen GCN, not Polaris as has been falsly reported in a number of places (much like the reports that it was Ryzen+Vega which were just total wishful thinking).
Then of course there's the fact that its integrated graphics with no dedicated video memory and is still paired with the extremely underpowered Jaguar CPU cores.
The closest analogue is a R9 290, but its not going to be that fast because of its shared thermal envelope.

wa bundled with the PS4. Lost legacy will never reach those numbers.

>compute perf : 6.0.
>First off, its still second-gen GCN, not Polaris
It is polaris, omg this level of desilusion.

You're trying to compare an SOC using older designs to a recent dedicated GPU.

I had no idea it was that big difference

>exclusives don't matter at all because people are buying multiplats

Fuck off.
Also only 2/8 games on the right side are exclusive

>It is polaris, omg this level of desilusion.
Its not a delusion, the SOC architecture they're using is built around Jaguar processors and second gen GCN. AMD's only newer SOC architecture is based around Ryzen and Vega and isn't out yet.
We know this chip isn't Ryzen and Vega, and AMD isn't going to create a whole custom architecture for a one-off product without also updating the CPU cores so therefore its going to be second gen GCN.
If you think about it this makes sense because otherwise they'd have to go back and provide new precompiled shaders for every Xbone game in order to run on the new system since it would break strict binary compatibility.

This will all get confirmed once the Linux community tears it apart and gets it running on the open source drivers like they already have for the PS4 and the Pro.

If you say so

>sony about 90 percent multiplats
>xbone about 75

APOLOGIZE

Compute unit for RX 580 is 36.

Bought a Sony x900e 4k HDR 55" and preordered the Xbox one X yesterday. Planning on hooking up my PC tp play some games at 4k too with my 1080ti

how can people keep falling for it? This is unreal.

They fab with 40 on the 480/580 then disable 4 to increase yield.
The XboneX is almost certainly going to have the same thing done.

Yea you are smarter than every one else, we get it. Every one is wrong about the polaris, it's a big lie. Man you have a scoop here.
40 for the scorpio. Anyway it's maybe closer to a rx480, it wouldn't change a lot but it certainly btfo a gtx1050ti.

>preordered Xbox one X
>PC

Why?

Most to watch HDR movies and play RDR2

>HDR movies
Again, why? You own a PC.

>RDR2
Well, it's not confirmed if there will be a PC version yet (I think it's very likely) but for the same money you need for a X1X you could get a PS4 and a Switch.

It doesn't make much sense to me why you would spend 500€ just to watch movies and play one multiplat

Dunno. I just really want to use a nice 4k 55" screen. Highest res i use for gaming is 1440p, wouldnt mind having an xbone x to occasionally relax with while laying down in bed. Already have a standard ps4 and a wiiu which i completed BotW on. Once more games begin to release for the switch, I would gladly consider buying one.

Not him, but are you implying no Xbone games were bundled either?
Stupid logic m8, you didn't even spend a single second thinking how retarded you'd sound.

It's like Switch fanboys saying that DragonQuestHeroes2 runs like shit on the Switch because it's unoptimized, but they forget that the same problem applies to all versions, so the fact that Switch sometimes runs worse than the Vita version is no less embarassing.
Next time you're about to open your mouth, first think if whatever you're about to say also applies to the other side. That way you won't look like a retard.

>It doesn't make much sense to me why you would spend 500€ just to watch movies and play one multiplat

Wow must suck to be poor.

>it's the first console capable of running 1080p well

Pro says hello.

Its not everyone that's claiming its Polaris, just like it wasn't everyone that was claiming its Vega. These are just rumors based on vague statements on the comparisons made about relative levels of performance.
Remember there were similar rumors circulating about the PS4 Pro before it was booted up on Linux with the Mesa drivers and determined to be using second gen GCN.

What's more likely:
AMD creates a completely custom one-off SOC architecture just for the XBoneX.
AMD produces the most powerful version yet of the same SOC architecture used in a number of other products.

>it certainly btfo a gtx1050ti.
Except it probably won't because we're talking about integrated graphics on an SOC and not a discrete GPU.
Unless you're just talking about the biased case of comparing highly optimized D3D12 Xbone games to D3D11 versions on Windows.
Consoles are always going to have certain advantages from games being able to ship precompiled optimized binary shaders, while PC games have to ship bytecode that can then be compiled to something the systems GPU can ingest.

Still doesn't make sense to me.
Why bother when your PC is more powerful anyways? It's not like you can't use your PC while laying down especially with a DS4 controller.

>If you don't spend your money like a retard it must mean you're poor

Why a monitor?

Lost Legacy is just a standalone DLC

>Also the games you DO see resolution scaling on are 100% multiplat.
That's blatantly wrong. Halo 5 has resolution scaling.