ESRB releases statement on Loot Boxes

pcgamer.com/loot-boxes-are-not-gambling-according-to-the-esrb/

>S A V A G E
>B O O T Y B L A S T

total biscuit BTFO

ESRB is full of shit, that organization doesn't even need to exist anymore.

Guess you don't need to write your senators.

>You're guaranteed to get something! A winner every time! Only a 1% chance to not get garbage!

>irrelevant organization says something
L I T E R A L L Y W H O

>REE THEY CENSOR EVERYTHING!

>On top of that very practical consideration, I would opine that the ESRB's take is the correct one. The organization is funded by publishers

>The ESRB
>Mattering

>Fucking China of all places realizes it needs to d something about the blatant abuse of people and starts doing something with the loot box craze.
>Meanwhile, ESRB doesn't even care if they get kids addicted to this shit.

It's kinda sad, really.

So now our only hope is to convince weak-minded people to not be so weak-minded?

>Gamers are actually so retarded that they'll actually try to give power over vidya to politicians, the same people who tried to ban and censor games for years

this'll be a good thread, i can feel it

>Industry backed organization says industry isn't doing anything wrong

Damn I guess they're right

Aaaaaaand that's a wrap, this whole fiasco will be forgotten in a week and lootboxes will continue to be the norm.

The ESRB decides if a game should be played by children or just man children. I don't see how they have much credibility here

I wonder how much money they're being slipped under the table to ignore the blatant gambling problem arising in the video game industry.

Good thing it doesn't matter what the ESRB thinks

As a guy who spent 3000 on a mobile phone game I'm going to have to disagree with this

making games rating R its not something devs want, and thats what people wanted with the lootboxes

>He's so retarded he believes that zero regulatory oversight produces good results and not exploitation
A purely free market doesn't actually work in practice

not gambling if it can be acquired for free

>Blackjack dealer now give 1 cent back to the loser
>no longer gambling

Lads time to open unregulated casino

They are right. If you fucking retards would stop buying games that have loot boxes nobody would sell them. Anyone in this thread bitching about lootboxes while owning overwatch is a massive hypocrite.

Don't you see? This was their plan all along; push consumers with no sense of money management via their publisher middlemen to call upon their help, thus letting them control video games directly.

Jack Thomson is playing 8D chess.

Hm...

>guaranteed to win something
>prize pools are clearly indicated as not giving a monetary reward; all rewards are stated up-front to be worthless virtual items

They're still dumb but there's nothing wrong with them.
Just do what you do whenever any game has a feature you are staunchly opposed to: Don't fucking buy it.

Demanding that the government step in to make sure devs produce good games is fucking retarded.

>it works exactly like gambling but you're always guaranteed something
Jesus, not that I thought they would do anything

They don't censor shit there very lenient. It's game publishers/devs/localizer that do that before they even rate the game.

The free market failed. We need to do something else.

The ESRB is a private corporation. They are in no way, shape, or form connected to a government entity. Anything the ESRB has to say can promptly be filed under "Trash" and sorted as such. Their opinion means jack shit.

wait so can i open a casino in my backyard with a minimum payout of 0.01 credit toward one cent payout?

it's not gambling, you're guaranteed to get something

>Demanding that the government step in to make sure devs produce good games is fucking retarded.
devs/publishers are crossing the line with lootboxes that affect gameplay, they should be considered gambling and get fucked by a pine tree

I kinda miss the days when Jack Thompson was the worst we had to fear in our vidya. I'd take green blood and the lack of swearing and tits if it meant we didn't have microtransactions, loot boxes, season passes, deluxe editions, pre-order exclusive content and amiibos.

Modern video games are a mistake.

>ESRB

American institutions are nothing but whores that will defend anything and anyone who pays them enough for it.

The fuck are you on about, the ESRB doesn't censor anything. They're the organization that deems what's appropriate for what ages, when was the last time you've seen an active parent care what they buy their kids? They merely exist as a barrier to stop lawsuits at this point.

>ESRB is run by the ESA, the trade association of the vidya industry
Gee oh gee I wonder why they would be against a thing that would rake them billions of billions of dollars
Wonder what the FTC has to say about this

>expecting from organization funded by publishers to call this gambling

>Congress threatens action
>Video Game industry regulates itself to avoid such action
It's almost as if this has happened before

so basically I can start opening a casino for children as long as they receive a little pity price for their loss?

>He's so retarded that he believes that publishers would have less power if government regulated games
I hope you feel good once you set the stage for video game lobbyists making the regulations.

>a strawpoll with 25 voter
>having any meaning at all

you can give a mystery box every couple hours to not make it gambling, then keep charging kids 2 dollars per box because apparently is not gambling

>2017
>people still think the ESRB has anything to do with the US government or has any kind of real authority or power

wew

In this case it did not. People are just too retarded to not buy games with business models they do not approve of. Sure devs and publishers are jewing consumers at every possible step but that is only possible because said consumers willing eat it it up.

So if slot machines always paid out one cent, they wouldn't be gambling any more?

Makes sense actually
It's no different than buying collectible cards in a way. You get the thrill of serendipity without losing at all.
Still Battlefront 2 implementation is scummy as fuck but expected from EA.

>you always get something
>you don't get anything because its a digital game

woah... so this... is the power... of corporate dicksucking...

>gaurenteed to get something
All you have to do is give a consolation prize and you can open up your own casino!

Let's just kill all lobbyists I'd be down with that. It's not like they have souls anyways

As long as none of the rewards are redeemable for real money.

of course user, theyre called arcades

According to china, they are. Hence why Valve had to create seperate lootboxes for them.

Sure sounds like it to me.

>WE NEED THE GOVERNMENT TO STEP IN AND REGULATE VIDEOGAMES BECAUSE THEY ARE [ ] TOO VIOLENT [ ] PORNOGRAPHY [X] GAMBLING [ ] SEXIST
I'm very happy that le 60 fps man has ass cancer

>Make a slot machine
>Every attempt gives you at least a penny
>This is now no longer gambling

Who are you quoting?

Yes. ESRB gave the most retarded definition of gambling.

You can sell or trade collectible cards.

ESRB has no power over companies or video games at all, they only offer ratings.

That is why capitalism and the free market has failed. We need to forcibly take back the industry by any means possible; even if it means the government is regulating it. Anything but the normies feeding the capitalistic corporations.

Want a free helicopter ride?

You guys can't be this retarded. No loot box gives you money back that you can spend on things outside of that game. When you buy a loot box, you are immediately agreeing to give up your money in exchange for a worthless virtual item. It's not like actual gambling where you might be able to get your money back.

what the players do with the gold tokens outside of the casino is between them

things will never stay the say, just deal with it.

>waaah stop involving government
Enjoy your financial crisis.

>a sample size of 25
>No sampling data to see what kind of people were asked
>No credible polling company made this poll

You always could, its called trading cards

ERSB and PEGI will force pretend gambling out of lower rated games like Pokémon and deem it unsuitable. But using real money for a random chance to receive something in a lootbox is fine?

Sup Forums BTFO

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>The ESRB is now officially more anti-consumer than fucking China.
way to go, capitalism.

Or gumball machines

everything is redeemable for money just no allowed as you can see people selling accounts with skins in every fucking game like in LOL or WOW for example

come again?

Loot boxes in TF2 and CSGO should be considered gambling since you can cash out in the Steam market.

>invent slot machine that is garunteed to give you 1 penny every time you play
>legal in every state because it isnt gambling since you're garunteed to get something

Truly fucking disgusting, I can't believe anyone thinks this way.

I play my share of modern releases. This year I had a good time with Resident Evil 7, Nier Automata, Wipeout Omega Collection, few other games, but I mostly stick to out of production consoles.

That's all you need to do. Buy the shit you want, and don't buy the 3x gAAAy stuff you don't want. Come on now.

>implying the financial crisis wasn't started by unnecessary government interference into the market
Nice propaganda you commie fuck

You are indirectly defending lootboxes. You have lost this argument.

it may not be gambling, but it sure as fuck promotes it
doesnt matter though, the ESRB is lobbied to hell and back, nothing will change that

Do you know how Casinos work? Chips are a literal middleman between you and your money, and it works exactly the same in videogames that have in game currencies

What is Chuckie Cheese

If this is true, I have a good idea.

I'm going to open a casino and allow people of all ages to come and play. To circumvent laws about minors being allowed to play, I'll have it setup so "you're guaranteed to get something." If you play the quarter slot machine and lose, you'll get a penny back.

You always get something at my casino! Bring your kids to play. :>

I know that. There are some people that actually do think the ESRB does enforces censorship. Just look at the spergs in Censored Gaming comments, shit like "Why does the ESRB exist?" like it's their fault.

>make all scratch cards pay out at least a penny
>kids can now buy scratch cards apparently

Jolla Jolla get dolla

POORFAGS ABSOLUTELY BTFO

>get steambux
and? can't use that shit to buy food

You are indirectly defending socialism. You have lost your right to live.

why not just make a video game with loot boxes and jump in the bandwagon?

>implying it wasn't banks giving mortgages to people who couldn't afford them at the request of the government
They weren't forced to do it.

Uhh yes you can indeed.
Whats the point of this reply

>tfw i sold my WoW account for $1500 because I had full tier3

Literally just trading cards, if you don't like it don't buy them or don't play the game, there's plenty of other games to play

Yeah I'm sure that's gonna hold up.

>Businesses satisfying the preferences of the masses is exploitation
>Forcing gamers to accept your preferences somehow isn't
Even if we used the marxist definition of exploitation, what you're proposing would be exploitative.

Only poor people complain about loot boxes.
Who cares about poor people?

Don't you understand, at this point, that the "just don't buy it" approach doesn't work?

>devs make games that feminists hate
>feminists demand that games be made according to their views of what is right and wrong
>Sup Forums tells them to just go make their own games if they don't like how things are

>devs make games that Sup Forumsirgins hate
>Sup Forums demands that games be made according to their views of what is right and wrong, including an attempt to convince the government to step in and regulate game development on their behalf to ensure no "wrong" games get made

If you faggos hate loot boxes so much, maybe you should get off your cheeto-dusted asses and develop your own games that don't have them.

Sounds an awful like any arcade to me.