Will the 20s/30s be the new 20s/30s?

It seems our society is embracing the early 20th century fabricated nostalgia in the early 21th century.
With Cuphead being the social phenomenon it is (inb4 memetale, undertale was just popular among gamers. Cuphead is making moms and dads, even grandads play vidya again as we speak), and in general how some things are coming back (jazz regaining popularity), do you think in the 2020s we'll be having a lot more vidya inspired by 100 years ago?
Do you think the 80s/90s nostalgia is wearing off and there is really nothing to be nostalgic about about the early 00s, so we're just jumping straight to the 1920s and 30s?

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Nope. Casuals can't into something that old. Don't count on it.

Millennials and liberals hate anything made before they were born and/or the 1980's much less the 30's.

Probably not, seeing how "RACIST" the 20's and 30's are

But the 80s kids is as millennial as it gets.

What? I love stuff before my time, enjoy living in this time period and feel that stuff nowdays has been yo-yoing in quality.

It could work in short bursts but the novelty only has so much steam. The art design in today's world is the equivalent to Lo-fi where a cult following exist but will never reach beyond it outside some black swan hit. We also need to remember that part of Cuphead's charm is piggybacking on nostalgia involving nes/genesis/arcade difficulty and darksouls hard meme status.

Cuphead will probably get a sequel and another major dev might try it's hand in it but that's about it.

Cuphead is ridiculously tame concerning it's source material. So employing the art style without the pre 50's flavor is doable.

Other than nice cartoons, the 20s and 30s were really fucking shitty.

20s
>a huge chunk of western men are dead thanks to WWI, economies across the world are in shambles
>jazz and other assorted nigger-music overwhelms the industry and replaces infiltrates music forever
>women throw off their corsets, cut their hair short, show off their legs and dance degenerate nigger jigs as being an unwed club-hopping whore becomes in-vogue
>nasty mixed-drinks become thing and prohibition has the opposite effect of getting people to drink even more recklessly in shady dives. proper appreciation and respect for spirits is a thing of the past
>Jews infiltrate all the major motion picture and media outlets and get right on task with pumping degeneracy into our brains
>women get the vote
>financiers and banks play fast and loose with the economy for short-term gains

30s
>west enters the Great Depression thanks to the 20s
>austerity, everywhere
>Farmers get fucked incredibly hard
>things are still pretty degenerate but moving towards a conservative swing in that will culminate in the 40s
>WW2 on the horizon

this except jazz is good and without the Sup Forums shit

>citation needed

>jazz is good
>based on absolutely no musical principles established over centuries
>literally just slaves beats and made up on teh spot instrumentation

I wasn't really talking politics user, just art, design, you know, the kind of stuff people have nostalgia for, the entertainment and the art.

yeah I mean all the young folk just go crazy for The Shadow, Dick Tracy, Orphan Annie, Flash Gordon and the original King Kong these days

>Other than nice cartoons, the 20s and 30s were really fucking shitty.

user every previous century compared to the 80's/90's/00's is complete garbage in comparison. It's not even fair to try, also Jazz was a legit boon for the music industry regardless of how you feel about the genre or blacks.

t. knows nothing about music, can't even play an instrument

Wait a minute..

Sure it was, and the last 100 years of popular music has only increased humanities appreciation and understanding of the art.

degenerate

>Muh liberals muh millennials muh SJWs

Stop. Please. I'm begging you. I'm on my knees. Do you have a Paypal? I'll send you money. I'll send you real, cold, hard cash if you fucking stop baiting with stupid shit like this. Please. I'm mentally exhausted. Everywhere it's all this trash about politics, about identities. I'm so fucking tired. My parents talk about politics. My coworkers talk about politics. Random fucking cunts within earshot at the deli talk about politics. I come here to leave the normiesphere. I come here to talk about video games. I'm fucking tired.

>based on absolutely no musical principles established over centuries
>Implying this is a bad thing

Not every field of interest can be build off a previous establishments. Sometimes you have to start from scratch or buck old foundations to get something new.

You can't sit on the fence. This is the last great culture war of our time. These people want to destroy or corrupt everything you enjoy.

Niggers are a large part of why western music has been garbage since the 1980s. Notice how hip-hop rise in popularity happened along with the decline in the actual musical value of popular music at the time. It's one of the reasons why only Japan and a couple places in Europe like France make even half-decent vidya tunes.

It's really, really not. You just want it to be because you don't have any other shit going on in your life.

Alright guy, post some of your favorite artists right now since you know so much about music.

>fabricated nostalgia
nigger, I don't have nostalgia for a time I wasn't born. The aesthetic is just cool and goofy.

>Young person enjoys literally anything from before they were born
>gets attacked for DURR LE WRONG GENRATION
>enjoys only stuff from their own time
>get called ignorant millennials with no respect for culture or history

So what is a young adolescent supposed to do in today's world?

This is literally the same reasoning every commie and kike uses to explain why they need to deconstruct every institution we have.

No, you don't get to decide that music needs to a reboot, fuck you. You insult the literal geniuses of the past 500 years with that shit.

Not just jazz. Blues/folk and even classical still had a notable scene.

>a huge chunk of western men are dead thanks to WWI,
Not if you're an American.
>economies across the world are in shambles
Not if you're outside of Europe (even Latin America was pretty good relative to Europe at this time, IIRC).

not obsess over the opinions of people 20-40 years older than you

You sound contrarian for the sake of being contrarian, if you're kidding. If you're serious, you're basically saying that just because something exists, it is protected from scrutiny and innovation. That's pretty SJW-tier thinking.

>No, you don't get to decide that music needs to a reboot, fuck you
Yet here you are, trying to say what music is and isn't allowed to be. Go listen to your Evangelion OST again

Jazz was incredibly popular in Japan and France in the 30's and 40's. Fuck off.

First off western music is still good if you stop focusing on radio tier music. Second video game music is somewhat of a different beast in which the music has to be of decent quality but cannot take center stage. Thus why a good chunk of it is purely instrumentals or light on lyrics.

You could be onto something user, but we won't be pulling from the 30s or older generations unless SJWs get put in their place and Trump wins in 2020. Think about it, game journos, reddit, and tumblr are legit triggered by the games design because of racist caricatures from the 30s. If more people like that are in power in America you'll never get games that pull from masters of eras long gone that are "problematic".

Trump unironically needs to win again in 2020 for the sake of gaming, not even trying to derail the thread. We all know these SJWs are that terrible for the gaming industry and will cause it to stagnate. It's been a pretty damn decent year though all things considered though.

How could you not watch classic cartoons growing up? You parents are cunts.

still fingers crossed for some kind of Popeye revival

SJWs will kill the Western gaming industry, and indies and superior Japanese game development will reign supreme.

I fucking hate you dumbasses for trying to make this thread about American politics and a "boy do I hate niggers!" thread.

Why? Most new TV shows of old cartoons like Tom and Jerry one have sucked.

The creator of Cuphead is an SJW though

No one born in the 80s has legitimate memories of watching Steamboat Willie

Trump getting elected didn't stop SJWs from bitching in this year. What makes you think it'd be any different if he's elected a second term?

>using the word "degenerate" unironically

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Video games are always best when a republican is in the white house, prove me wrong
The obama years were fucking awful all around, especially for vidya

yeah im nostalgic for big eyes and mouths pasted on shitty animation and iphone filters

I was born in 91 and remember staying up late to watch old Cartoon Network cartoon features, like the "I Love to Singa" one and there was another about some kind of feeding punishment. I don't remember in detail now.

>No, you don't get to decide that music needs to a reboot, fuck you. You insult the literal geniuses of the past 500 years with that shit.

Reminder that this kind of thinking is what caused the Catholic Church to prosecute Galileo. Because they couldn't accept the belief of an alternative theory of the universe.

Also Jazz is merely a genre not a retooling of the entire field so chill your autism.

We one of the best games when Bill was in the house

>Sup Forums: I want things.
>Sup Forums: I'm not going to attempt to make an effort myself to get things. Other people are in charge.

Every time.

True, but Reagan through Bush Junior was just god tier vidya all around, then it all went to shit after 2007, entirely.

This, Sup Forums complains about how the white race is dying out and needs to breed but then complain about 3DPD white women and how they'll never fuck them.

I'll keep it western for brevity's sake:
'80s R.E.M.
Echo and the Bunnymen
The Moody Blues
Metallica (with Cliff Burton)
The Beatles
Yes
Pink Floyd
Black Sabbath
Bathory
My Bloody Valentine
Rush
The Kinks
Midnight Oil
Queen
Judas Priest
Fleetwood Mac
Jefferson Airplane
Electric Light Orchestra
Dire Straits
Thin Lizzy
Blue Oyster Cult
XTC
The Cure
This is all off the top of my head, I could go on but I'd rather not tbqh.

>Music isn't even considered something worthy of study anymore

>Geneologies of modern music aren't even clear because it's impossible for critics (who do study music and have an education) to differentiate one umba wumba from some hoomba doomba from muh life moohfooka

>The very few decent black music producers are known for their lyrics rather than the actual music, and probably should have been poets instead since black culture basically skipped that step of development

>All popular and louded music is just the child of the same addictive beat patterns, base drops, and predictable rhyme schemes, with no distinct traits since 'pop' is thematically similar to clearing a clog from your food processor

Regan is the reason we have crack and why Iraq has our weaponry so I don't acknowledge him

That's just Sup Forums and /r9k/ shitposters.

is there really a difference between the 3 boards at this point

>criticism of the early 20th century
>it's over how progressive it WAS rather than how it wasn't
Only on Sup Forums.

Yeah but Arcades were god tier at the time, natural progression, toward Bush Senior and Clinton wich was a golden age, followed by the tail end of the golden age through W and then plunged into the abyss 2008+, only now in 2017 are we seeing a semblance of recovery

Black's did go into the the poetry and bookmaking. For example the Harlem Renaissance

Nigger, Steamboat Willie is one of the most classics cartoons, it was shown on TV from time to time, and it was referenced to hell and still is.
Anyway there's many other cartoons other than it. Classic 1930s ones like Popeye's Simbad film was regularly on Cartoon Network in the early 90s. Among many, many others. CN had a lot of really old cartoons, I remember on weekends really late at night you'd get Bettie Boop marathons, all in black and white gloriousness. Some of my earliest boners.

>1930's thread
>people complaining about presidents

oh boy

I knew this was going to be a shitty Sup Forums thread the moment I read OP's post.

>With Cuphead being the social phenomenon it is
>Cuphead is making moms and dads, even grandads play vidya again as we speak

The fanbase of this game is so delusional it's actually pathetic. You faggots act like Cuphead sparked some grand revolution.

To be fair a lot of that had to do with growing pains in video game technology and budget than political atmosphere.

A lot of devs and publishers were generally shellshocked by swelling budgets and Indies weren't around to pick up the slack.

True, but i remember when 7th gen launched many asked, how much better could it possibly get? Look what we went through and still go through. We are just now seeing a recovery adecade later. It's saddening really, such a golden age and straight into the garbage within the span of a year

>Second video game music is somewhat of a different beast in which the music has to be of decent quality but cannot take center stage. Thus why a good chunk of it is purely instrumentals or light on lyrics.
Then why is Japanese vidya music so universally and objectively superior to western vidya "music"? Why is there nothing in western vidya that even approaches touching the memorable melodic quality of Mitsuda or just about any of the Mega Man composers? Could it be that it's actually better to give a shit about it and put some of the effort that popular musicians prior to the 1990s put into their music?

OP here, I'm not part of any fanbase. Cuphead is really sparking an interest in many people due to its old cartoon style and references.
I thought the game was OK, would rather play Mega Man X or Contra III, but I still liked Cuphead, and the art direction is unique, there's nothing like it, regardless of if you like it or not, most people have nostalgia and enjoy old cartoons. Plus the animation from that period is extremely fluid and dynamic, something modern cartoons and its static flash-style animation doesn't provide anymore since ages ago, so going back to this style feels fresh for many young people, and triggers nostalgia in older ones.

Not everything is going to change just because some dumb video game, nobody even would try because they'd just be accused of ripping off cuphead. There's no reason to think this will change anything. Everyone would rather have unique art styles anyway, rather than everyone trying to fit into one. What a dumb thread.

>art
>objective

user...

you fucking kept us in the great depression you triple nigger and your fucking 100% tax

Carter brought us Pac-Man and Space Invaders.
Reagan brought us the 1983 crash.

>Second video game music is somewhat of a different beast in which the music has to be of decent quality but cannot take center stage.
Only true for western shit. When it comes to JRPGs, it's traditional for music to be as important as the gameplay.

Trump becoming POTUS is what sparked the beginning of said grand revolution, and SJWs are trying their best to push back but to no avail. This year has been pretty damn good for gaming so far and it's only going to get better the further into Trump's Presidency, and the more BTFO SJWs get.

Cuphead is just one of the many gems to come.

Its just a hipster fad like neo 80s a steampunk.

It will pass

Who the fuck goes for original king kong anyway

>Soulja Boy can totally be just as good as the Beatles! Really!
Neck yourself, nigger.

This. There's many technically superior games than Cuphead by far, but Cuphead is hands down the most A E S T H E T I C game made in recent memory and deserves all the praise. It's my personal game of the year quite honestly due to the potential it has to inspire other devs in the gaming industry to think outside the box and try something from decades past.

*tips fedora*
*wipes cheetos crumbs off double chin*
pffff, fucking degenerate snowflakes. I miss the 10s!

O.G King Kong lost a lot of credit when he won against Godzilla because of western xenophobia. The big G would shit all over him any day of the week.

No. That requires work which is something millennials hate.

>Why is there nothing in western vidya that even approaches touching the memorable melodic quality
Not true. A lot of melodic memorable tunes were composed by westerners as well, look at the old sidescrollers like Jazz Jackrabbit or Captain Claw. It's only been recently that music added to western games is orchestrated generic garbage.

Now I can think of two games from the past two months till now where the music is somewhat memorable.
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and then there's this:
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I think you reading way too much into a moderately successful run and gun game with a art style that wasn't the same old fucking shit.

Calm down.

Its really hard to take you seriously when you mark 'women get to vote' as a negative.

entry-level normie pleb

>This year has been pretty damn good for gaming so far and it's only going to get better the further into Trump's Presidency
I have something very bad to tell you, user.

Like I said, I kept it western for brevity's sake. :)

So are we just going to ignore people like the Rareware composers or Richard Jacques (sonic 3d blast saturn ver. and sonic r)? Yes, Japanese video game composers are much better overall but there are good game composers in the west too. Both in the 90's and even now, if you have a problem with the state of affairs in western Vidya music take your problem with Hans Zimmerman or more correctly all the fanboys of his.

Isn't this literally being subjective?

not everything is about politics, it's a fucking run and gun arcade game. No connection to Trump or SJWs. the last elections ruined everything, I can't go anywhere without people complaining about Jewish tricks, white genocide, nazis or misogynists. I just want to discuss games and music on a fucking image board for fuck's sake.

>tfw you know what evil lurks in the hearts of men

nigga this is ea
ea the dudes who fucking made you fork over 120 bucks for an unplayable game (not in the ironic sense I mean you'd lag out of severs 9/10)

Who goes for any of the shit I mentioned? Man you're a fucking moron. That was my point. Retard. None of those things are known by anyone under the age of 90.

>Reminder that this kind of thinking is what caused the Catholic Church to prosecute Galileo. Because they couldn't accept the belief of an alternative theory of the universe.

More like they couldn't accept Galileo's teaching heliocentrism as absolute truth while he still hadn't provided concrete evidence for why it reflected reality better. The church specifically allowed him to teach it as a hypothesis that could potentially address the issues of the Ptolemaic system. But then he decided to not only treat it as fact, he also specifically insulted and mocked the pope (Galileo's previous personal friend and ally, who felt extremely betrayed by the whole affair) while doing so. It was only with Kepler's concrete evidence that the Heliocentric model was accepted and thus the Church shifted the dogma to match.
Galileo was an academic that tried to play politics and got fucked for it.

This is really pathetic. Millenials are so bored, but so lazy, that they have to fabricate a "war" out of thin air that they can conveniently fight from the comfort of their own homes.

You mean you ommited anime and Japanese game music because you're a gigantic angry homo.

nothing you said makes any sense

>PacRim faggot

Oh I see it makes sense now

Let me get this straight, you're complaining about nigger music while listening to rock n roll/psychedelic bands that owe their existence to said nigger music? The fuck is wrong with you

>the 2020s are going to be exactly like the 1920s but with better technology

So prepare for huge market crash by 2028?

Why can't enjoy the simple culture of the past without being called a fedora or reminded that the standards of living is higher now? I've done nothing to deserve this.