Why is Fire Emblem Echoes the best Fire Emblem since Path of Radiance?

Why is Fire Emblem Echoes the best Fire Emblem since Path of Radiance?

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Thracia 776 was a thing.

>since Path of Radiance
Get yourself a new pair of reading glasses, grandpa.

Because it isn't

>Top Notch production values
>Fantastic music
>Great voice acting
>Character designs that aren't essentially fetish pandering (Fates was really bad about this)
The only major flaw is the map design. But thats more a relic of its NES roots.

Lets see we've had
>Soren and Micahah's mary sue hour
>A Remake that was bare bones as fuck
>Awakening, which to its credit saved the series but was dumbed down as fuck
>Fates, where the waifu pandering reached its peak. And it was censored to fuck
>And a mobile phone game.

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Weren't the devs huge Gaiden fanboys or something? Makes sense they would give their all when remaking their favorite game.

it passed on all the tropey shit and stuck with old school gameplay

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It wasn't a dating sim

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The soundtrack was a lot more operatic than past Fire Emblems. Like the whole story was an ancient epic.

>Awful maps
>Celica's entire side of the plot is filler
>Shitty villains
>Foreshadowing that pretty much just tells you future plot points and just have Alm be too stupid to connect the dots, even tough the player will be able to
>Alm's first two chapters are all about how him not being a noble isn't important because he has the talent to accomplish what he wants; end of the game is Alm actually bieng a noble and only being able to defeat the villain because he has royal blood

Because it was a remake of an older game

>Worst maps in the series
>Worst gameplay in the series
>Story isn't bad but isn't good either, merely passable

At most you had the art and voice acting. I really cannot even begin to fathom the sheer amount of praise it gets.

Because you don't care about gameplay.

And let's see Echoes:
>a piece of dogshit
RD and Conquest win.

>The only major flaw is the map design. But thats more a relic of its NES roots

No it wasn't Shadow Dragon and the Sword of Light had great maps.

>stuck with old school gameplay

But Gaiden was shit 25 years ago compared to the other Fire Emblem games during that era.

I honestly cannot understand the sheer amount of importance people place on story and voice acting as compared to maps, gameplay and balance.

On subsequent playthroughs if you skip cutscenes, all you have left is Echoes awful gameplay and near zero replay value. Might as well make the game a fucking VN, it would be more tolerable to play.

Traitor

>its good because its old

It came out this year

You forgot about the second part remake that was pretty darn good other than the excessive avatar insert.

>But thats more a relic of its NES roots

Not at all.

Yes, and it's almost as shitty 25 years later. Who would have thought that "remaking" a shit game and keeping everything that made it shit would actually not fix it's problems?

Valentia is the only Fire Emblem I've played so far discounting Heroes, and while i do love the game and think it's good i wouldn't put it higher than a 7.9

M U H S T O R Y

What were they thinking

It isn't even that good. The voice acting is fucking amazing and Hidari is a great artist, but the story is decent at best.

Hell, Alm is so bland he should fucking hang out with Kris and Robin.

>Never released in the US.

>mfw even Kaga hates on Gaiden

I wonder what actually goes on in the mind of a Gaiden apologist.

>got a fan translation

>It's an "user calls the most shit on and flawed MC in the series a Mary Sue" episode.

But 12 was a good game.

>user calls the most shit on and flawed MC in the series a Mary Sue
At this point I think the hatred for Fates eclipses Micaiah's hatred.

Miccy isn't shit on by the fanbase, she's shit on by the game. She exists to be constantly overshadowed, first be Elincia taking the spotlight, then by Ike and his zero flaws or character development and then she gets more screentime as a host for a way more important character. Everything she does after part 1 is her failing because she sucks at what she's trying to do.

>Miccy isn't shit on by the fanbase
There's a lot of people who don't like her.

>by Ike and his zero flaws or character development

I wonder if RD Ike would still be popular if he was a customisable Avatar or whether he would be considered a Corrin-tier mary sue.

Because it has the sexiest loli

Why is she so perfect?

>Micaiah apologists exist

God fucking DAMN at least something good came outta this

>dumb as a brick but has the best body on the continent

No wonder Alm was blind to other girls.

Why is there no good porn of her?
She's just the best

Kinda had a hard time getting through it though, what with all the route maps and cantors, but other than that I liked it. Dunno if I'll say it was the best though.

>Celica
>best body on the continent
Not even close. Her best friend Mae has a better body, and that's not even getting into Sonya and Matilda. Alm is just suffering from generic girl syndrome.

TOO OLD, IMPURE SLUT, etc. etc, the usual japan shit taste bullshit excuses.

Girls with armor head pieces are my thing.

God i wanna cuck Clive

>Japan
>Caring about Gaiden

They don't have the Hipster Brigade like we do.

>Thracia 776
Why is everyone talking about Thracia 776? Is that the next Echoes game?

Wouldn't genealogy be next or am i misremembering release order

>No character creator
>No social links
It was shit

Thracia 776 is THE "I'm cooler than you because I played a game not many others have" FE game. The elitist's game. Its actual quality is immaterial.

I've heard it's a pretty good game, though filled with lots of bullshit gotcha moments such as staves being able to miss and horseshit enemy placements and maps.

Celica was a fucking moron.

Five bucks says that will be the next on the Remake schedule.

Too old and has had sex with Clive. There's no way you're winning her over from him and his 99 charisma.

I'm not sure I'd call it the best since I liked Fates more, but it for sure has the best soundtrack in the series.
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Why are both major archers gayer than John Waters?

Echoes director wants to do FE6.

Hopefully they don't let him touch another Fire Emblem game, I'm fine with a Gaiden remake playing like shit because Gaiden is shit but fucking FE6 deserves better than that. Some tweaks like an earlier Roy promotion and warnings for surprise Wyvern Reinforcements along with some balances would be fucking great.

I'll take that bet and raise you another 10. I've heard it said the director wanted to do Binding Blade first.

I want FE6 to burn just so Royfags can suffer.

Well at least they are better than Lynfags.

care to elaborate on that?

I dunno if I agree. Lynfags may be waifufags, but at least they like her for her fucking game. Royfags like him for fucking Smash.

Royfags are almost entirely Smashfags.

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Disgusting

Same with Alm.

So I just downloaded Shadow Dragon and New Mystery of the Emblem on my DS flash cart.

Which do I jump into first?

care to explain?

Why is Clair so boner inducing?

legs

Its the pantyhose.
They're boner magnets.

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Shadow Dragon so you can fully appreciate what NMotE does better.

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>jew

why are good Anna lewds almost nonexistent?

>Storyfags
Even the story of the game shits itself half way through. We just need a tolerable story and excellent gameplay for FE. So like, Conquest but with a story makeover.

>Shitty villains
You shut your whore mouth

Simply perfection

And it helps that she's a useful unit too

>Does nothing but failing constantly.
>No reason to sympathize with him whatsoever in the vanilla game, just like Fernand.
>Killing his innocent girlfriend and sacrificing her to the dark gods because he's too socially retarded to understand what she said.

His only saving grace is having a good design and VA. A REAL good FE villain would be Zephiel, faggot.

>Zephiel

>people complain about Gaiden's maps being open fields and praise other FE games for having maps with chock points
>posts chock point: the map as a bad example

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I know we have our odds with Reddit but this was a good read. Sums up everything wrong with this overhyped game's story.

Stupid Bercuckfag.

>overhyped
>barely sold like half a million units

So you're telling me there's a Fire Emblem cycle?

It's a JRPG, the stories are always trash.
People like this one better because there's no waifu trash pandering

Most are stories are trash. But you don't play FE for gameplay anyway there are better games for that. So I would like more wafiushit yes. Because at least it's something

>he openly admits to wanting waifu shit

Overhyped =/= sale figures, dummy. People keep on saying this "game" is good because no self-insert MC, no marriage, no children, no pair-up, and a great story but its story is fucking trash. Alm himself might as well be a retarded self-insert since he's basically a harem protagonist with the way the game portray how awesome he is saving all the girls and how stupid Celica is when they're supposed to be equals. The gameplay is garbage, the story is trash, the villains are dumpster-tier, and while the side characters are likeable, the extremely limiting support pools,retarded choice of support partners severely, and the very idea of locking more in-depht characterization behind DLC paywalls hurt it. Its redeeming factors are:
>Good music
>Good visuals
>Likeable side characters

It just fails as an FE game honestly, and it's retarded how much people overhype it like the second coming of Christ that will save FE.

That's a poor excuse to like a game anyways. Conquest has waifufaggotry, but it also has good gameplay, pretty good visuals, and excellent music as well. The story is garbage but gameplay should be the most important factor in a game (as wel as music).

Reminder that there’s literally nothing wrong with waifushit

Hard to play something like Conquest when you just want to throw it out the window

Maybe you're just getting triggered over the few people that do like it?

>being this wrong

Unless the developers think waifushit is a good substitute for well designed gameplay or a passable story

Only Fe I have been able to complete in a long time, I hate the extra fluff added to Awakening and Fates, couldn't keep playing them.

It wasn't about the "story" or shit like that, I just prefer the simpler gameplay. The pairing, class change and marriage mechanics detract from the whole Fe experience, being just a good turn base game was the strong point of the older titles.

>What is the skip button
So you enjoy spending a few minutes with an acceptable story then spend hours on AIDS-ridden maps and shitty gameplay over spending 3 seconds pressing the skip button and spend hours enjoying great gameplay and good maps? Go watch TV or something if you want a good story, or play a VN. SoV is not even a good VN honestly.

But the maps user, the maps

>Being a brainlet
Also gameplay contributes largely to the FE experience. Just admit that you like it for the story and characters, user.