Reach for the sky, mister!

Reach for the sky, mister!

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Is it justifiable to kill the kid here?

yes

Honestly, the gun is a fun premise but when you can only use it once per 24 hours, it becomes annoying and more of a chore to use than fun.

>he didn't activate Archimedes before acquiring the gun

That's not a kid, that's Gary Coleman

Anyone else excited or looking forward to the Frontier mod coming out next year?

They're been stuck on about 76% completion for about a year now.

FUCKING KEK LOOK AT THIS FACE THEY ACTUALLY SOLD THAT JUST LOOK AT IT KEEEEEEK

>tfw you'll eventually be able to bring your character from New California all the way through vanilla + NVB and into Frontier
>New Vegas inadvertently becomes an American epic

Developers state that it's highly reccomended to start a new game for the mod, which is a shame.

They had a year to make the game.
What's Bethesda's excuse for taking multiple years to make their games and having similar looking results?

*2 years.

F3: 2008
F:NV:2010

Fuck it, I'll tolerate all the crashes in the world if it means I can still experience an emergent, decades-long character arc.

Do you really think they commissioned Obsidian and had them start working the second 3 shipped?

Well they had to do it real soon after they released F3. I can't imagine them giving Obsidian a year to create a whole game with their engine.

Even if Obsidian was incredibly talented and dedicated to creating the game, I doubt they could do all that in a year.

>orbital laser bombardment
>150 damage
>being physically hit in the face with a mini nuke before it explodes
>400 damage

The full dev cycle for FNV was 18 months. Bethesda gave them two QA testers.

>not knowing how long the game took to make when the information is freely available on the internet with only the briefest of searches
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That's actually impressive.

I wish Bethesda didn't give them anyone to QA test.

Do you become instantly villified by NCR if you activate Archimedes? I don't know who I want to side with yet.

Imagine if they had the full two years.

Obsidian began development as soon as Mothership Zeta was released, which was in August 2009, giving them exactly 18 months to release FNV in 2010.

Caesar's Legion would have been fleshed out and discussions on the subject would be less retarded.

The game would've been more polished and included several more quests/NPCs in existing areas (notably Freeside and Outer Vegas), but otherwise wouldn't have been that much different. I'm skeptical they would've introduced major Legion content.

This. God damn it, Bethesda.

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They wouldn't have had to include that much more, just a bit more depth. Perhaps a town that's been threatened by raiders constantly and was saved by the Legion.

Ceasar's Legion really doesn't make any sense to me.

They're most obviously the "supr bad goyms" since they wear red, are linked with Romans which could be considered bad, when you first meet them on a normal playthrough you see them burning down a village and leaving one man alive and they all fight with goddamn swords and fists.

Why couldn't Obsidian create another faction that wasn't based from Van Buren but also made was a lot more believable?

Something like a NCR 2.0 but they don't agree with settling down unlike the actual NCR.

>that "Do you visit to the Cloud District very often" face

You fell for NCR propaganda.

No, I mean I understand the Legion's wants and needs and their prospects and I see where they're coming from, but it's just the fact that the game sets the NCR up as the GOOD GOYMS with their DEMOCRACY and MUH FREEDOMS, and feeds the player NCR's negative views on the Legion as well as the murder or Nipton and the general asshollery of the Legion when the player first met them.

When I first played through the game, I couldn't help but think that the Legion were only there so the game could have some kind of antagonists.

>Legion only uses cheap knives, I am going to ignore every single time a Legionary shot at me
>I am going to ignore that the vast majority of Legion NPCs use guns

The most effective way to glamorize the Legion would involve an influx of camp follower NPCs into Legion-occupied territory like Cottonwood Cove or Nelson. You don't need to waste a fuckton of time creating new areas, but you still get a stronger civilian perspective. Coupled with some sort of patrician caste to imply that there is a burgeoning civilian/intellectual culture developing back east and you've got a much more palatable faction.

You really didn't pay attention. There isn't a GOOD GOY and BAD GOY side. NCR is corrupt as fuck, Legion is extremely harsh. They're just two different groups dealing with the realities of their world in different ways.

>you still get a stronger civilian perspective
Which they don't have because it's a nomadic army, not a government.

The only people you'd find in Legion camps are Legion soldiers and slaves, with a few neutral traders and slavers

I understand that.

My point is that when I first played the game, it was very heavily biased against the Legion. They were set up as the antagonists struggling for land and preparing for the battle of Hoover Dam, and the NCR looked as if they were the protagonists with their vast amounts of land, soldiers with guns, democracy and lots of land.

After reading into both sides now I know that the NCR is corrupt and going to rot from the inside out, and that the Legion is just trying to survive and they have a logical reason for applying the Roman theme to their units.

It's just the fact that as a new player, I saw that NCR = Good and Legion = Bad from the first time I played.

It's almost like things aren't always how they seem at first glance. I'm going to stop replying to you after this because you're stupid and you type like a retarded fag.

Fuck off.

The option to not side with House and convince him not to kill the brotherhood might have not been cut. Shame.

Right, camp followers. Vanilla only has one in the form of Dale Barton. Even a few neutral NPCs and merchants and other civvies showing up in Cottonwood Overlook or Nelson after We Are Legion to praise the opportunity Caesar has granted them by preparing the settlement for future inhabitants would go a long way to humanizing the Legion without the need for more settlements and vastly more work. A new Legion settlement in a new part of the map is superfluous when you can make Legion settlements in the existing game.

That had nothing to do with time constraints and everything to do with it being a stupid idea

House was just undoubtedly the best choice. They had to bump it down a little in some way.

That's actually the main reason they cut that option: players refused to deviate from the House quest (to even consider other factions) because they faced no resistance during his questline. That it makes more sense that he'd want the BoS dead is icing on the cake.

No, just shunned if you haven't done anything bad to them yet.

You can still do NCR quests at Vilified, they don't become permanently hostile until you have a negative reputation and have been branded a terrorist

Just get the mod that lets you wait wherever you are. Use it once, then wait 24 hours in the middle of battle.

He's still the best choice. BoS a shit.

Isn't there a mod that just takes off the 24 hour wait and make it just several minutes?

There you go.

NEVER SHOULD HAVE COME HERE

#handsupdontshoot