I'm fucking done lads. Is there really no longer any way for a game to be financially succesfull other than being a litteral virtual casino? My friends and I still get togther and play games every 2 weeks, but lately we don't play anything togther because they all have "dailies" in 12 different games that they don't even seem to enjoy. And when we eat out, anytime one of them isn't being spoken to, they whip out their phones and spend their stamina in 6 different gachagames. It's fucking disgusting how it's become completely normal to make games that are just casinos that pay players in cute girls and dopamine, or games that can't rely on gameplay to keep players coming back and need shit like lootboxes and daily quests. Fuck this timeline.
I'm fucking done lads...
This is why I love fighting games
This, fighting games are the last bastion for video games right now.
>MvC:I
>SFV
>Injustice 2
Oh yeah, some great games there. Meanwhile actual good ones like KOF14 die out. The genre's fucked.
>Oh yeah, some great games there.
Yes, all great games. It's not my fault you're bad at them. KoF14 is good too.
esports and the casualization of fighting games ruined them but stuff like usf4 and even third strike on fightcade are still active and fun
ok
OP here, and I agree, at least when it comes to multiplayer games. So few comepetitve games actually only have the "game" itself for people to come back to. Even shit like CSGO and LoL are riddled with features exclusively designed to cause addiction.
Join a different community then.
Under Night has had Sup Forums lobbies for 3 months
Just play good videogames, you bitch.
Or get into MtG with your friends and go play drafts
>pay players in cute girls and dopamine
Sounds like they've made "Sup Forums: The Game" tbqh
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I have a legit question, 'cuz I've been wondering about the meaning of addiction and its negative associations:
Why is it more socially acceptable to be a hardcore sports nut and take that to it's extreme (eg. professional athlete), than to be a hardcore gamer (basement dweller, bags under his eyes, no actual social life)?
You could be "addicted" to both things, but why is one worse than the other in the eyes of most people? Or let's say, in the eyes of women.
I think I know the answer, just wondering what you all think.
I've never understood what enjoyment people get from spectating sports. Basketball is probably the only popular sport where it might be understandable cause every other sport has gigantic playing fields and 20 players in the game at any moment where you cant even discern who is who or what role they're performing, and to that effect lends nicely to what esports is with small teams where individual players can shine - but still, who could care to spectate other than relatives and friends of players.
tl;dr sports nerds are just as much instantly-shitlisted as game nerds. You're not wrong, they're not so dissimilar.
>Why is it more socially acceptable to be a hardcore sports nut and take that to it's extreme (eg. professional athlete), than to be a hardcore gamer (basement dweller, bags under his eyes, no actual social life
because the professional athlete is constantly working out and training while the neckbeard plays games nobody else gives a shit about other than other gamers
how is this even a question
Sports jocks self-insert on the athlete/player even more when they are successful. If it is a team based sport they get to self-insert themselves as a bigger entity and diss others as superior beings
Get better friends or whip out a Nintendo Switch to bring back REAL portable gaming to your group
that's exactly his question, there's no inherent virtue to that. the actual contributions of the sports guy are just as meaningless. he's literally grinding a children's game constantly. people are going off and doing all sorts of shit with their lives and he's been swinging a bat since he was 5 on the playground and its admirable and heroic for some reason. baseball players barely work out at all anyways its a lazy ass game
physical exercise is a virtue, physical excellence doubly so
the greeks had a guy who had two sons that both won the olympics and he became so happy and full with pride that he died on the spot
maybe the meathead jock has many flaws but athleticism isn't one of them, and it's for athleticism that he's praised
sports are a stand-in for archetypal heroic pursuits
football is a great example of this, two teams (tribes) battling each other, each player has different roles and must work together as a unit to defeat the other team, and that includes throwing and catching a slippery little ball, and running your ass off to avoid getting your shit stomped to the ground
in terms of value, the primary value of sports for those who don't play them is the entertainment of living vicariously through the players. they're like powerful heroes and people crave power so we idolize them. it's masculine
gaming has this type of appeal too but not nearly to the same degree because it's implied that it's not actually real. the skill in gaming is manual dexterity, focus, and strategy, and that takes more of a devoted fan to appreciate
I'm actually pretty good at Infinite and IJ2, but that doesn't mean they aren't shit games.
PRAY. FOR. MOJO.
>I disputed my own argument. All i had to do was post a picture, tadaaah!
ummmm
Op here, for me the answer is simple. If we had a basketball date (we used to), noone would sit out because they had daily football activities they were obliged to do. If we were into sports and not games, none of us would suddenly start playing basketball when we were out eating. People can only do sports in certain environments, but videogames can be played wherever and whenever, making people lose control.
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>Is there really no longer any way for a game to be financially succesfull other than being a litteral virtual casino?
No it's as possible as ever. Just not as profitable. And they always want more so now it's never going to go back.
It's like how every platform provider started to charge for online play.
You mean whip out your dick to bring back the REAL portable gaming experience
You need to get better friends. These are the exact kinds of gullible, passionless 'gamers' who get worked out of their money by these souped up skinner boxes. They don't actually like games. They're just incredibly mentally weak and are clearly too immature to know how to spend their money properly.
>Just not as profitable.
this guy gets it
pro-tip: never go public
Okay, cool. You do you.
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Iol i love that le meme
is he gone yet?
that kid probly says something or other cause it took them all night not to stay the fuck on tumblr
Play Melee nigga. Game doesn't hold your hand.
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Meanwhile the desktop roguelike genre is better than ever. You have just played the wrong games. Probably because you are normie fag
lague of lagands is gut gaem
>People can only do sports in certain environments, but videogames can be played wherever and whenever, making people lose control.
Exactly what I was thinking! Because it's sedentary and easy. Just like sitting at a slot machine in the casino, it takes ZERO energy.
So why is it healthy to be "addicted" to sports?
See, there's nothing wrong with doing something you enjoy. There's a simple do-something-receive-a-reward mechanism to a lot of things humans do. So when does something become an "addiciton"?
The problem with sedentary things is that it's too easy to do. Watching too much TV and playing to much games are obvious ones.
Whereas with sports, there's a natural limit. You can only play so long until you get exhausted and have to take a healthy break. With video games you can just keep going and going and you feel like you don't even want to do anything else.
That's why you see those cases of people sitting at internet cafes and literally dying from just sitting there.
So.... I think the new thing will be internet VR cafes!! It will take time, but we can bridge the gap between the nerdy unhealthiness of sedentary games and the healthiness of being active and naturally limiting your impulses by simple physical exhaustion.
VR is kinda shit right now, but you gotta admit it's come a long ways from the 90s when everyone thought it was going to be the next big thing then.
It will be a gaming revolution, but it hasn't reached critical mass yet. The hardware needs to improve and there needs to be at least one or two killer apps and then it will take off.