Are you still mad?

Are you still mad?

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yes

didnt play 3 since 2 wasnt any good

Always. Honestly how do you go from sovereign's speech in mass effect 1 to this travesty

After Andromeda this ending was a masterpiece.

This

100% this

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Never even finished Mass Effect 1. Don't care for the series at all.

No. I wasn't ever mad in the first place. Just disappointed and sad. Considering how much I loved Mass Effect at one point in time, I've barely thought about it at all in the past five years and have zero desire to ever replay them. That's ME3's ending's legacy more than anything.

Yep.

At EA in general really. In fact, the hatred is refreshed even more due to the recent closing of Visceral which made Dead Space, another series I adored until EA fucked up the third entry.

I was so shocked by how terrible it was that I replayed the series and when I played them saw some many issues along the way I started hating them.
I still dont get it. SPend years before the first game figuring out the lore and worldbuilding, and then shit the bed putting a story in it. How is that possible.

ME3's general story and terrible characterizations of some of the squadmates made me disappointed and sad. Then the ending, in which I played tons of hours of multiplayer and did every stupid sidequest for the optimal result, made me mad. Then the constant barrage of gaming journalists saying fans were entitled and that they were being whiny made me pissed.

Then the Citadel DLC came out with this shit and that was just the cherry on top for the shit pile: youtube.com/watch?v=nGnbEtube-g&t=6s

Never forget sing-along-mode. Never fucking forget.

So I downloaded Andromeda for free on my Xbone.
Why the fuck is it that out of 20 skin tones, only one is white? And on top of that, why is it that most complexions make that skin tone non-white?

Nope. There are worse endings than this one.

Honestly, my guess would be it's due to a mixture of poor lighting in the character creator and just a generally bad engine/design for making characters. I remember in Dragon Age Inquisition having a terrible time trying to design a character that didn't look like total ass because the creation area was hard to get a feel for how they would look in-game. In fact, a lot of games do that shit. Whenever I make a character in Fallout3 or New Vegas, they always come out blisteringly pale because the creator put the model in a darker area, making their skin look darker until you're in normal lighting. More importantly though, character models and design in Andromeda look like ass in general. It's not surprise that making a character in one specific way is difficult since making anything is difficult in that game.

Average Sup Forums answer though would be because they're SJWs and don't want no whites in their game.

So I guess take your pick.

Not anymore, they got their just punishment with Andromeda.

Maybe that is the case. I remember seeing the Asari models in multiplayer and it instantly turned me off from the game, but the Turians looked pretty alright. Then again, how do you fuck up a Turian?

Worse endings, but rarely is there a worse build-up to such an ending. ME3's finale has been built up since basically the first game. It spanned over multiple years, where the original was released in 2007 and the final game in 2012. All the while, mostly in ME2, they tell you your choices will matter and to keep your save because it will have an effect on the ending. It even says in loading screens in ME2 I believe.

It is just a shit ending, but the quality of the ending isn't what made it that bad really. It was the marketing and promises made.

Turians always look cool, regardless of lighting and shit. So yeah, anything mostly humanoid I guess just does not mix with that engine.

The white one had to be added in a patch. Not even joking.

I'm replaying Mass Effect 3 right now and seeing the ending hasn't gotten any easier. It's almost worse.

still better than manlet boy and his autistic sister

God damnit.

sovereign's speech in mass effect 1 set the entire series up for failure

reapers ruined mass effect

Maybe if they had a game to explore or hold off the reapers instead of aiding terrorists in the USS Daddy Issues, there'd have been time to do them justice

Sovereign didn't tell you jack shit about anything.

"We are beyond your comprehension" is the laziest writing there is.

Livid

No, the entire idea of the Reapers is bad. Trying to offload all the blame onto Mass Effect 2 is denial.

mass effect 2 steered the story in the wrong direction

Reapers are generic, which isn't inherently bad. ME2 did fuckall with the primary antagonist of the franchise and ME3 made them full on retarded.

No. It was fun to kill the Reapers and all advanced robots like EDI, basically the ending the devs didn't wanted you to choose.

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This. When EA got hold of it the series was ruined. ME2 was good but the way how they handled the gap between ME1 and 2 was horrible. >LEL shepard dies in begining
They had to kill him because the new engine and new makers were not good enough to import the old character from ME1.
The ending was not worst in ME3 but the overall package it felt nothing in the past had no impact in the last game, other than >LEL you helped him +15 for you!

Was better than the first game. Which also wasn't very good.

Sad!

Bioware had nothing to do with Andromeda, it was developed by a bunch of interns with that name slapped on them. I don't think ANY of them actually worked on ME1-3.

they worked on me3 multiplayer and some dlc, but I'm pretty sure that's it.

I was never really mad. Mass Effect 2's writing was obviously a downgrade from the first, and all the retards sperging endlessly about the third game seem to ignore all the awful shit that was in 2, remember the human reaper that was going to punch ships or something? Or how collectors were an asspull and so many other issues. It's like people are blind to how ME2 was obviously the start of the decline of the series. 3 is worse but you can see something coming the way it did after how 2's writing already started togo in a downward spiral.

It was eerie as fuck. I expected the overall execution of the reapers to be better which is why i waa let down, but the idea of oncoming inescapable doom at the hands of machine gods that have done the same to every era of organic life is cool.

i just saw it in one of these threads, don't know where it's from though id like to

Born was good though.

every time

I was willing to take Sovereign's line seriously as it made it seem like the writers were taking the scope of what they were setting up seriously.

A species(?) that has existed for 50,000-times-idon'tfuckingknow years would, naturally, be radically different from anything we've ever dealt with before.
Or maybe we would never get the chance to fully grasp them and they would always be at least partly a mystery. Which I would've been perfectly fine with.

But then things turned... kinda stupid.

Mad enough to give Trump a second term.

Wow, this is pretty enraging.

Absolutely.

People blame EA for taking over, but EA had no reason to change the story. That was all on Bioware for taking Karpyshyn (or however the hell you spell it) off of Mass Effect to waste him on Tortanic instead. He's a competent writer, and his original story was actually pretty good.

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Everyone should also read this

it's from 'Mass Effect Retrospective'
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How is it even possible for a single company to be as bad at writing as Bioware is? Why is this allowed?

Not really mad, just disappointed. But I never liked ME enough to get worked up about this garbage ending.

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Absolutely, ME3 killed my favorite franchise, and i vowed to never buy anything from Bioware ever again, a vow I still keep to this day.

Its a series made by EA with the branding of "bioware"
Bioware died years ago, all the old talent left.

Yeah it was Bioware vancouver which was just a staff of newbies EA pulled from the mud and they did the arrival DLC (worst ME2 DLC). and ME3 MP. That is why the combat in andromea was serviceable but everything else is terrible.

Also they were trying to make procedural maps. That didnt work at all and shit just fell apart. They scrapped pretty much everything and put something together in a year of crunch to be able to put something out.

Yeah I know. Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect 2 were harbingers of the end. That was when the talent started to see where Bioware was headed and jump ship.

3/8

I would like to add that a lot of people seem to think that there never was a Human Council in ME2. I don't know where people came up with this idea because YES THERE WAS, THEY'RE JUST NOT SHOWN.
I replayed the game like a month ago and I remember this shit, if you let Udina create said Council there are many times in the game that they are mentioned, directly or indirectly. Most of the times is how aliens are mad at human leadership, and I'm pretty sure a news broadcast (the one you can activate when you arrive at the Citadel) straight up mentions them once.

And then ME3 pretends they never existed.

Shepard wasn't even the most important time gap death that fucked up the series. They killed off all your squadmates and replaced them with even shallower versions of themselves.

Garrus is from a young cop with big shoes to fill feeling constantly stifled by red tape and due process that can either be guided on a path if doing things the right way or being told that he needs to reach out and take whatever justice he can personally dispense from the barrel of his gun. He is promptly murdered and replaced with LEL SPACE BATMAN! IM TOO RADICOOL FOR RULES OR SPECTRE TRAINING HOW BOUT DEM CALIBRATIONS THO BAE

Tali is a naive and sheltered young girl from a species looked down upon for creating a potentially huge threat to all organic life but is nontheless headstrong, stubborn, and willing to brave danger and discrimination to bring something back to her people befitting the daughter of a grand admiral. Some yandere quarian with a Shepard fetish kills her and steals her suit so she can go full spineless moeblob OH EM GEE I CANT DO ANYTHING WITHOUT MUH SHEPPY-KUN UGUUU

Liara goes from a curious and confused researcher who's primary passion is the protheans to an angsty, gravel voiced space dyke.

Wrex is really the only one who seemed to avoid character assassination, completing exactly what he intended to do after the first game. Even then, it would've been nice to see him wearing that ancestral armor you bother to grab for him.

But really, the one that pisses me off the most is Ashley if you don't kill her. In one sentence she utterly destroys one if the central aspects of her character in the first game. For someone who is emphasized to be heavily religious (and I believe Christian at that, it's been a hot minute since I've played any of the games, much less the first) to call ANYONE a god just shows how fucking little the writers of ME2 understand people, especially religious folk.

4/8

5/8

6/8

I thought that space Batman fits Garrus pretty well. Liara and Tali was pretty retarded though. Tali I can kind of give her a pass but holy fuck Liara changed character so much.
It's like completely different writers. Then again at least they had more character interactions than just being a Codex.

7/8

1>2>>>>>>>Andromeda>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I don't know why the media mostly praised 3 but picked on Andromeda so much, 3 is fucking dogshit and barely even a game, and that's not even getting into the abominable story

it's a 50 part series from shamus young, you can find the full thing on his website. he also wrote a much shorter essay on the problems with fallout 3. both are very good reads.

8/8

I seriously still don't understand why the fuck they killed Shepard. Ironically, the Normandy intro sequence was the best part of ME2 for me.

I swear, the transition from cutesy scientist Liara to sooper sekret Shader Brooker Liara might be one of the worst in the series.

Thats just your opinion.
I loved ME3 all the way to the end, and only got upset After having finished the game.
I havent replayed me1&2 since, its just "oh yeah all this is working towards That ending, why bother".

Because ME3 had paid reviews but Andromeda didn't

>hear some bad things about ME3 the day it comes out
>don't look into it too hard, try not to be spoiled
>download and play it to the end in one sitting
>get that ending
>feel a burning deep in my gut that persists for hours

I've been angry at videogames before. But nothing like that. That was some next level "this is what it's like to be betrayed" anger.

>make turian waifu
>in the fucking third game
>its a fucking dlc
>she fucking dies
>do it again
>its in the worst fucking game in the series
I have lost all respect for BioWare

We are beyond your comprehention refers to the cosmic horror vibe. Lovecraft uses it too and that gets a pass. Now the problem is of course that if you never explain it people call you lazy, if you explain it then people say your cosmic horror machine gods arent incomprehensible monsters.

Ive been thinking a lot how they could get out of this. I thought of this
>sovereign: we are beyond your comprehention
>ME2 happens
>you fight the collectors
>deep in their base you find harbinger like you found sovereign
>shepard: why do you buttfuck us, sovereign just speaks in riddles
>harbinger: ah, sovereign, he doesnt think highly of organics. Well unlike his robotic pets my creatures did manage to kill you once.
>shepard: the collectors are your doing, why are you doing all this
>harbinger: I hope you are as intelligent as I hope you are. As you see, we were made by organics millenia past. But the new fuel they found, it would consume the entire universe in a few centuries, we tried to stop them, but then they fought us, and we had to defend ourselves
>Shepard: and, what does that have to do with us
>harbinger: Every time we let organics grow up they eventually try to tap into the same fuel, between letting them burn themselves out and letting new organics grow up and enjoy the universe, we choose the latter. Trust me, we did try to stop them, tell them with controlled organics they were going to make themselves extinct, they didnt listen, so we now just reap them.
>shepard: but we can stop ourselves, not keep this cycle going
>harbinger: perhaps sovereign was right, it was beyond your comprehension.

The more left something goes the more horrible it becomes and the faster is crashes and burns. Fuck bioware for destroying mass effect since the second game

3 is just a succession of linear hallways, because the hub worlds and sidequests are virtually nonexistent. a plot critical character is day 1 paid DLC and there's tons of fucking jank just as bad if not worse than shit in Andromeda, like all of the sprite characters

FUCK 3. At least Andromeda, for all of its faults, is a pretty good space explorer game. 3 is fucking nothing and only coasted by because of the affinity people had for the earlier games.

Adding to the insult is that they didnt follow up with sequel that relied on me3 having this ending.
We get MEA made by a throwaway studio and bioware decided to make a new ip.
That me3 ending sacrifice was completely wasted, it didnt lead up to anything. They could've written almost anything e,se and it would've been fine.

>introduce reapers as lovecraftian cosmic horror space squids
>IMMEDIATELLY drop this
Seriously, the only other time they did it was in the beginning of the Leviathan DLC from ME3, probably my favorite part in the game.
Then the ending of the DLC comes it sucks balls.

>I thought that space Batman fits Garrus pretty well
Of all your companions he has the most concrete post-game plans. He was the one who SHOULDN'T have been a mystery. And yet he just pisses everything you talked to him about down the drain in order to become a parody of himself at a parody of the Citadel.
>Then again at least they had more character interactions than just being a Codex.
Not really. You learn more about their characters and their values in ME1 than in 2. Garrus talks to you about his frustration with his attempts to help the downtrodden and how he feels cast in his father's shadow to boot. ME2 is just LEL REECH, LEL CALIBRAYSHUNS, MUH VENGEANCE. You learn nothing about who he is and barely learn about who he became. Hell, the whole Calibrations meme exists precisely because he had so little to say.

Likewise, in ME1 you learn all about Tali growing up largely motherless and with a strict and often distant father. You get that she is communally minded to the point that she feels uncomfortable feeling comfortable on your mansion of a starship while her people live in cramped, sterile squalor (another thing ME2 fucked up). In ME2 you learn she...missed Shepard and cries more about her dad. That's it. All she (and Garrus, for that matter) talked about in 2 was how great it was to be near Shepard again.

And the worst part is waifufags and husbandofags bought up the latter because it had more cinematic shots during dialogue and you could fuck them.

Mass Effect 3 killed my love for video games. Before I got to the end, I was playing the multiplayer regularly, and before I bought ME3, I'd pretty much buy/pirate almost any game out there just to experience it. But then something just changed in me when I got to the ending. Something clicked in my head to never, ever get my hopes up for something again. It hit me that hard. Mass Effect 3 turned me into a critic instead of a player. I can barely enjoy anything anymore without a critical look at it. I'm not even a reviewer, I just want better games.

>Of all your companions he has the most concrete post-game plans. He was the one who SHOULDN'T have been a mystery. And yet he just pisses everything you talked to him about down the drain in order to become a parody of himself at a parody of the Citadel
Shit, thanks for reminding me user. He does say he'll become a Spectre/C-Sec.
Fun thing is, that is directly Shepard's influence, and ME2 basically says "oh well renegade Garrus canon but he gave up or something" which not only is completely retarded but him turning into a NO RULEZ space merc is also Shepard's influence, especially renegade Shep, so why the fuck does it still happen even if you didn't recruit him?

Thinking about it now it's pure laziness and they could have come up with literally anything else

Bioware still owes me a night of sleep. When I beat Mass Effect 3 for the first time, it was around 11:00 at night and I was just sitting there in utter shock and disappointment and borderline depression. I went to bed shortly afterward and spent the entire night staring at the ceiling with bloodshot eyes. Not even joking.

Agreed. Leviathan was my favorite ME DLC. Fuckin' solid ambient music tracks as well.

If you mean the current FO3 posts thats some other bloke

He did make a genius skyrim thief quest autopsy

>literally a Freespace 2 ripoff

>Fun thing is, that is directly Shepard's influence, and ME2 basically says "oh well renegade Garrus canon but he gave up or something"
He gives a half assed explanation either way. It's either he tries C Sec again but he was 2COOL4RULEZ or he goes to Spectre school but he was 2COOL4SCHOOL. Either way it's a shitty character breaking copout and you know it.

And like you said, he attributes it directly to Shepard no matter what, just like Conrad always claims you put a gun to his head. It's fucking lazy and dumb.

Yeah, I hated the ending still. It didn't even make sense to me. You reintroduce the Lovecraftian aspect of the Reapers only to toss it out of the window AGAIN.
For what purpose.
>We have no beginning. We have no end. We are infinite.
>There is a realm of existence so far beyond your own you cannot even imagine it. I am beyond your comprehension.
Oh yeah, about that: here's the giant space squid aliens that created the Reapers who'll just give you all the answers to everything on a plate. Now let me add more dialogue trying to explain/justify the shitfest of an ending that Mass Effect 3 had.
No big deal right

Now continue shepard's legend with dlc

The series was doomed as soon as Drew Kripadipading was kicked from the writing team and Mac Walters took the helm.

>just like Conrad always claims you put a gun to his head
That one was a bug though. Which was never patched. Almost as if they didn't care.

Yes. When EA shuts down bioware for good Im celebrating

This picture speaks volumes. It's a tragedy story.

YES

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Sadly this is true. I'm personally convinced it was a knee-jerk inclusion due to the controversial ending, but who really knows? The non-ending to the DLC may have been shit, but the rest of it is still fantastic in my opinion. Exploring Bryson's Lab, tracking down the mind-controlling artifacts, the mysterious paintings from previous cultures... it all pointed to some quality Lovecraftian mythos going on, only for it to be quickly swept under the spacerug and shoehorned into Spacekid's exposition at the end.

Because killing a cosmic horror doesnt make sense. You might hurt them and send them packing for a few centuries, but eventually they come back, and eventualyl they will win. Take call of chtulu, he just hits chtulu with the boat and he is hurt and sinks back into the sea. Sure humanity survived, but chtulu will rise again, and will fuck people up. For a medium size sifi story that is acceptable, but for a dev under close eye of EA that gives you infinite money you cant pull in dudebros with 3rd person combat and light RPG elements only to tell them they cant win.

Exactly the same thing for me mate, I found other hobbies luckily.

Same for me, though I don't blame a single game for it, it's a process that took a couple of years.

While I know you mean the lead writer changing, but you can also see it with the title
>ME
>clean futuristic font
>ME2
>same, but worn 2 still fine since its supposed to be the darker middle segment of the story
>ME3
>NEED
>TO
>GO
>GRITTER