If I got really good at a driving simulator using a wheel, would those skills apply to real life?

If I got really good at a driving simulator using a wheel, would those skills apply to real life?

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No.

What wheel?

do it and find out.

Do you intend to drive manual transmission cars?

lol fuck no.

More importantly, how do you not already know the answer to such a retarded question?

You have to be 18 to post here, please tell me you're not an 18 year old without a drivers license.

I'm 25 and don't have one.

I just turned 18 last month

Only if you use a wheel with clutch and a decent H shift.
Also no electronic assists, that is no TCS or other assists.

yeah
as TRUMP would say, WRONG

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>I'm 25 and don't have one.

Shock horror, another underachieving, sheltered manchild.

So you should have been driving for at least two years, no excuse.

>No TCS

The year is 2017, sports car and racing cars use traction control. ABS too.

It doesn't work well the opposite way.
I am a fairly decent speedyboy and cant translate real life skills to sim games at all.
like what said you could probably learn how to drive a manual transmission with a full setup.

Obviously.

I got my licence at 18, but all the times I've driven since then can be counted on my hands.
I just live in a city where walking or public transport is so much easier and cheaper that it doesn't warrant the hassle and cost of owning a car.

I've never needed to drive anywhere.

>he pulled that off with a G27
That's impressive.

WRONG

No, cars slide way too much in-game and the the sense of speed is way off compared to real life

You could learn the theory of racing but actually controlling a car when you're strapped in it, wearing a hot stuffy helmet, being thrown around by the lateral Gs and having to really fight the steering wheel is a skillset you can't get anywhere else.

WRONG

>need

Irrelevant.

It's a life skill.

t.underage armchair racer

WRONG

Gforce changes everything. I can't stand more than ten minutes going fast in a car without lossing my brain through my nosetrills

He's got great communication skills too. PR is a huge part of racing. He could actually go places.

>sour grapes

blue board. not 18+
kys

Yes, didn't that fag who made Gran Turismo do it? He played his own game on Nurburgring and got gud at lap times and when he took it to the real track, surprise surprise he was fast

Does getting good at a military flight simulator mean you can hop into an F-18 and start dogfighting IRL?

a monkey could learn how to drive in nascar this isnt a good example.

maybe not cuz the tires would be fighting back

Name 3 military flight simulators

A blueboard is sfw you underageb&

This.
>people who say motorsports aren't a sport
>Well I drive all day, it's hardly physically taxing!
They have no fucking clue. Hell, I've only tracked a modded out Miata and its still super fucking exhausting.

IL-2, DCS, Falcon BMS

DCS and Falcon BMS. Don't know a third.

Hawx

Ace Combat, Microsfot fight sim, Zone of the enders

BF4

Besiege

You'd puke gaymer dweeb.

Yeah That pisses me off too. Try driving around a track at high speeds for hours at a time in a cramped car with bad ventilation.

Yes. Not all the time but look it up on YouTube. There are some cases of guys that were super good at simulators and then they put them in real racing. And... Surprise, they were good in real life too. They didn't have the endurance but even then they did well.

Considering DCS airplanes simulate every single button and have 600 page manuals, I can't see why you can't at least start, takeoff, use weapons on a range and land safely if you're a pro at the game.

Don't F1 pilots lose like 4 kg worth of sweat in every race?

Yes, and after getting good at a car sim you could probably start a Chiron, do a slow lap and then park it. But full-on racing is an entirely different story just like full on air combat.

Any of us here in this thread would pass out during the first hard G turn in a jet no matter how good we are in the virtual simulation of air combar

>minimum skill required to drive a car is comparable to minimum skill required to fly a military aircraft

Flying is easy, it's the taking off and landing that's hard.

Idk, what does the game teach you about parallel parking?

What I'm saying is that mastering a virtual vehicle while sitting in front of a computer in your bedroom doesn't prepare you for the physical reality of driving an actual vehicle in real life. But why argue when you can try it yourself? Go drive a Formula 1 car and see how easy it is after getting good at videogames.

I think it was 2kg. Depends how anorexic you make the driver, they had some passing out when the new turbo v6 engines came in.

To answer OP, yes, it will help.

The tracks are basically 1:1, and they set up te lat/long as well so sun positions are accurate to whatever time it is ingame (find a car with a clock, make a sundial out of a toyota, etc). Appaently it's very useful if you want to learn a track.

Also, look up the whole GT academy thing. Massive success. Instead of being raised in karts since you're 3 years old you can jump in as a 20-something into GT3 championships. Then get banned because you're not 'amateur' despite not having any real racing experience.

That's why I fucking stated that you can fly around and shoot at a range because you wouldn't stand a real fight physically, but you'd PROBABLY be ok with operating the aircraft knowledge-able.

well, this guy played GT5 all the way to become a Le Mans driver.

Figures it'd be the Sony of cars.

Well yes but the way user formulated his question we're talking about the real thing here, not just the basic operation of the car.

>NASCAR
>Racing
Lmao yeah I wish I could learn to hold the steering wheel to the left

Not sure exactly about f1 but V8 supercar drivers do lose upwards of 10+ depending

depends entirely on well simulated that game is of real life
if you set it up properly and aim to get a near 1 to 1 experience like they would for fighter pilots (who by the way wear full gear while training in simulations) i would say you wouldn't be all that bad at real life. There are also times when F1 and other race car drivers talk about racing in a sim racing game for training and some are really good for it

>Driving sim
>Real life

Driving in real life (considering you dont race) is nothing like a game, youre never going to take a turn so fast you drift out of control. Its all so boring and easy .

the funny thing was, a few years ago, Ferrari saw what Nissan was doing and made their own F1 simulator to find the next F1 racer. And the pool of entrants they got was simply atrocious.

Meanwhile Nissan kept finding real gems of drivers through GT academy. Shame about the other winner of the 1st GTAcademy that got cold feet with the 24h race.

have you tried driving IRL?

If you'd actually play a simulator like Assetto Corsa with a proper setup with for example loadcell pedals then sure.

Games like Gran Turismo and Forza are just arcade race games.

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Maybe for daily driving with an automatic yes. For actual racing on a track? fuck no....
I wonder if any autists here have actually driven on a track before and experienced the g-forces of taking a corner at higher speeds.

This guy played GT6 all the way to 24 hour dubai race and endurance racing

>hold down accelerator
>turn left
is this...the power of 10 years of sim practice?

Nice Try OP

>Fuck Online Only
>Fuck GT Sport

you know what pisses me of
is the fact that if you are racing a car, like a proper race car. They use sequential manual transmission not a conventional manual transmission
Look i get they are to make it feel like a normal car, but race cars aren't and i can never fully use a gear shift over pedal shifts on wheels (or sequential gear shifts) as i know that they basically don't use them much anymore

You could if your wheel is able to rotate as much as a IRL car (1080°, or even more if its a 45°+ drift setup) You can practice to avoid doing retarded shit with the wheel while its spinning like crazy.
As for the average understanding of grip not really.
A circuit road dosent reflect the state of the streets, and the tire models of simulators are still not that good, even the best arround.
Unless you are a team, with millions of dollars and it races on F1, then you will do the entire weekend session 3 times before the actual one.
>both friday practices
>saturnday practice and qualy
>the entire race with planted scenarios
At that point you end up being like a machine.

No, but only because the chance of you actually becoming a racing driver are a bazillion to one, due to how life works.

Your best bet is to have a rich-ass family who spend thousands on you when you were a child to do Go-Kart racing, and in your adolescence enter you into competitions and shit. It's an expensive sport.

You can use sequential shifting from the steering wheel itself or get a sequential shifting stick, but yeah I get your point.

>It's an expensive sport.

I know right. I don't even want to be a professional race driver. I'd happily race a shitbox I race-modified myself in a weekend league of shitboxes. I'd print a bunch of made up sponsor logos and make my shitbox look like a race car.

Even that is fucking expensive.

That doesn't count. Kaz was a professional racer before even making GT

nissan are good you console warrior faggot don't compare them to your fucking toys
i bet you're too young to drive

...

>nissan are good

PC 2 or Asseto Corsa?
I have no wheel.

To an extent. Even playing them with a pad or keyboard will teach you basic concepts of car control and cornering. Playing games tends to make people struggle with observation though, they tend to fixate more, so you have to knock that out of them on track/road.

Yes actually.

To get good with a wheel and a driving simulator, or even a simcade, you'd have to understand throttle control, turn-in, clipping points, racing lines, smooth driving, braking points, and a multitude of other factors. Those will translate directly into real life.

They will help you on the track, but not a whole lot on public roads.

Also note that no simulator currently accurately simulates clutches properly. They're on/off buttons as opposed to an actual clutch with a gripping point that you can slip.

i dont have one either and I'm 24 and in the process of earning my masters degree
frankly it saves me having to drive around family

*Were good

>rfactor 1 simulates analog clutch contact and max torque since 2004
The part that is not correctly simulated is the feedback on the pedal.

You need a shittier car. You can easily have fun in an old rwd with skinny tires.

Dont even bother
Not joking, using a wheel, even the cheapest you can get is miles better and will make the game feel a lot better
One will last 10 years anyway as you shouldn't abuse it and probably won't usenit every day

>have a rich-ass family who spend thousands on you when you were a child to do Go-Kart racing
This. Basically all F1 drivers like Ayrton Senna, Sebastian Vettel and Michael Schumacher were put into Go Karts or other vehicles when they were very young. In the case of Vettel, he was entered into karting before he was even 4 years old, and started doing little kart series aged 8. It's a life chosen for you at a very young age.

The simulation racing ones do :^) as they use sequentional manual transmission today more than traditional transmission
But i do see what you were talking about, just wantes to be a dickhead

>Kids are no longer getting drivers licenses at 16
When i was 16, i was out pounding the pavement looking for anywhere that'd hire me so i could buy my first car. I found work at a grocery store and bought an old 91 240sx. And this wasn't even like a lifetime ago, it was like, 2005.

Kids these days man. Can't even build PCs let alone rebuild a carburetor on an old shitbike.

>The part that is not correctly simulated is the feedback on the pedal.
This is why I can't get in to driving sims. For the price of a setup that gives me the feedback I want I could run a car for multiple seasons in some amateur league.

yes, but you will be held back by being poor, autistic and not in shape. search for "the world's fastert alien" on youtube.

Project Cars (2) is garbage compared to Assetto Corsa.

If you get Assetto Corsa from a key site it will cost you like 10 bucks including the DLC anyway.

It depends on your setup, the game in question and your settings.

I don't know from where he's from but in my country it's overpriced and pretty hard to get a license
If you don't have rich parents you can't get your license before 25-30 years old

Co

I was a massive pussy about learning how to drive, but I finally hired a driving school and finally learned. It's a mechanical skill that took me about 20 hours to learn and about 100 to become proficient in. You probably more time each month playing games. It's never too late to learn.

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Come race with other nerds in Assetto Corsa, friends.
We welcome any skill, have custom teams to race for and we're constantly developing our community.

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I rather be in full control and bored than drift into incoming traffic or a ditch, personal preference.

You are honestly not an adult until you have your license.

>NASCAR
>racing
LOL
americans

I actually race cars and play assetto.
Yes and no.
Some, theoretical skills do apply, like racing lines, the way you learn the tracks, way you brake etc.
But the problem is, outside theory nothing much happens. You don't feel the car, which is a huge part of how you actually drive.
You can fuck up the gearshift as hard as you want you won't feel it ingame
Fuck it up in real life and you spin out.
Honestly if you want to translate skills to real life just buy a cheap beater and go hit tracks.

My sportscar does not have any of them. ABS but I disabled it because fuck you.

Yeah, but after he got out of the in game phase he underwent intensive training to get in the physical shape required to drive for hours.

If you become good at sims/simcades you have an idea of how a car handles and how to learn a track, but that's just half the battle.
The other half is physical conditioning so that you can actually sustain driving for hours and sweating buckets under layers of fireproof clothing, getting used to the sense of speed and coming to terms with the fact that a mistake can potentially kill you.

I pull skidz in traffic all the time, I also hit some corners with double the speed limit