Lootboxes are fine

Lootboxes are fine.

notice how the only one you have that's unacceptable is virtual and non-physical

Elaborate.

stop using logic please

damn........

quit

Delet plz

>using 9gag faces in 2017
Your argument is invaild.

>Chopping down a game, that 5 years ago would have been sold as a whole, and selling it to you trough random microtransactions is now ok
You are also missing the point. Nobody complains for lootboxes in hearthstone, that's the whole point of the game.
But why the fuck do i have to BUY skills in Battlefront II using a slot machine? I just want to shoot rebels, i don't want to be milked.

>being this much of a newfag

But I literally think all of those things listed are bullshit.

They're only "fine" because I'm not an underage shitter who plays games that use them. SO it's not a problem for me personally. But had, say, the new Dark Souls used them or a new Platinum game, I'd be very angry.
As for Ass Is Red and its awful clones, let them choke on it and die.

/thread

All those other ones are shit as well? And in most situations you have an alternative? The only one I'd say is comparable is the Magic one, which is terrible as well.

OP BTFO

The “acceptable” “loot crates” are for kids. No children pay attention to what is right or wrong. Anyone who buys video game loot crates never buy any of the shit listed here

>why do I have to buy booster packs in MtG?

Game is designed around that.
I don't like it either, so I don't play such games.

>buying Kinder Surprise for toys
Chocolate in it is top tier, those little figurines and such have much more potential to give fun then anything you will ever get from lootbox in video game. It's also a whole product.

DELETE THIS

The only one I can give you here are magic card packs

Wow it's almost like collectibles are collectible and the entire point is to collect them and the whole point of vidya is the game

Sucks absolute shit when you get duplicates though

Video games are children's toys, loot crates are the same.

FPBP, thread over.

Except lootcrate are absorbing the main product in which they're sold. So you're buying an unfinished product and a large part of it is only obtainable by kinder surprise bullshit.

just buy kinder maxi then

Absolutely and unequivocally blown the fuck OUT.

In MTG the odds of getting rares or whatever are available to the buyer.

Those toy capsules and kinder eggs all contain cheap trinkets. It's not like you have a chance of finding a nugget of gold or a flawless diamond.

With those physical loot boxes, everyone gets the same shit.

OP BTFO

>tfw you were too poor growing up so your mommy never bought you one of the big kinder surprises

I'm not buying it at all, I'm not seven years old anymore.

>1st 4 examples
>You simply purchase the item in question
>lootboxes
>You purchase a game, and then have to purchase lootboxes

They're fine in f2p games where you aren't paying shit to begin with

>self-contained game, no like no buy is valid
>self-contained game, no like no buy is valid
>self-contained game, no like no buy is valid
>self-contained game, no like no buy is valid
>bits and pieces from a game that would be complete otherwise, no like no buy ruins an otherwise find game

ONE OF THESE IS NOT LIKE THE OTHER, ONE OF THESE JUST DOESN'T BELONG

>Tfw Americunt can't have kinder cuz it's banned on burger territory, a country where thousands of people die by gun every months

>"let's ban chocolate tiny eggs cause dumb burger could choke on the toy."

op btfo

>1 booster pack is a self contained game
>1/x collectibles is a self contained game
>1/x collectibles is a self contained game
>random shit is a self contained game

Nah

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Kill yourself corporate shill.

I know rage feces originated in Sup Forums, but not even normalfags use these memes anymore.

Kinder Eggs aren't actually illegal to purchase in the US, only to sell (which is kind of stupid, but still).
You can import as many from Europe as you want.

Overwatch Loot boxes are fine because everything you can get in them is purely cosmetic and has no effect on actual gameplay.

DELET THIS

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DEAR GOD!
STOP WITH THIS SAVAGERY! OP'S ALREADY KNOWN AS A MASSIVE FAGGOT! HE DOESN'T NEED TO BE BLOWN ASWELL!

Imagine paying 60 bucks to enter a room, where there is nothing except for a ball pit, and if you want to get something to eat, you have to pay for the chance of getting stuff at random and hope you get what you want

>let it's fine if it's cosmetic meme

Except I remember a time when you unlocked cosmetic items through gameplay.

Underrated

>actually falling for that meme
I can literally walk to the corner right now and purchase a kinder egg right now
It's one of those 'laws' no one actually follows

Also is the only one that's embedded in something I already paid, and not a standalone thing.

atleast in MTG you dont pay for "access to play the damn game", unlike most of the games with lootboxes(where it's bad, ofc.).

>still using Overwatch lootbox image as argument, when they're obtained for free and are only cosmetic

Use an example of something that cost you additional money, is random, and actually benefits the buyer.

Is it legal to give them for free to somebody who buys other stuff?

>Import tiny hollow chocolate eggs
>SWAT elite unite broke into your house and execute you
>"God save America, we protected our land from another harmful European device"
>everyone in the neighborhood clap

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
SHUT IT DOOOOWN

OP BTFO HOLY SHIT

You get a free lootbox every level.

>if we make our slot machine scroll sideways no one will be able to tell it's gambling!
>also you win skins that you trade for cash, kind of like how you can win chips you trade for cash at a casino

>Elaborate.

I'm okay with this, we can bring it back then and cherish it as our own. Normalfags tarnished it's history, but we can still enjoy our memes.

Thing is, I feel like it would just bring second youth to the meme and reddit faggots would just carry it out. Sometimes I wish I was less aware of what is going on in the Internet.

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nice to see Sup Forums still got it together

Most new players to MTG buy a starter deck. That's the "main game" which they can then supplement with boosters or individually bought cards.

magic cards state the odds on the back of the package.

loot boxes don't.

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Loot boxes in a video game is more like buying the entire gumball machine, and still having to put in quarters to get the item you want.

I think they're perfect for f2p games though.

So you are also against paying for Netflix shows, Steam games, Sup Forums Passes or operating systems?

Who cares if its physical or not? You pay for a random object (physical or virtual), then you get one. The only way "virtual" is relevant is that video gamers happen to be far far more entitled than anyone else on planet earth.

None of those are random you dirty fucking heathen stop moving goalposts

in the context of the image the virtual one is also the only one that is completely free if you aren't retarded.

I loved those fucking plane in kinder surprise

notice how all of those examples you gave me are full products, not tiny little cosmetics and add ons

You ain’t buying a chance to get those things. You just buy them.

>get useless piece of shit in the first 4
>can trade it with others for something you'd like
>get useless piece of shit in last one
>"duplicate!"; item discarded or turned into a miserable amount of virtual currency

>lootcrate
>acceptable

He actually likely is. There are people who don't consider something to be a product unless its tangible. Low IQ makes things like virtuality less comprehensible.

Not him, but yes.
Who the fuck pays for operating systems in 2017?

Wait, what?
I've seen several surprise egg stores in the malls I've been to.

Virtual = Okay
Random = Okay

Virtual AND Random = WOW NOT OKAY THIS IS AN ATTACK ON GAMERS.

>Sup Forums passes

I wonder who's behind this post...

Are you ok with:
1) exchanging money for intangible goods or services
2) exchanging money for random goods or services
?

>paying for Netflix
Let me laugh harder.

stupid comparison, you don't pay an initial $60 admission for any of the other shit

>you will never be such a cocksucker that you try to get the government to regulate video game features.

That's exactly the point, retard. You already bought a self contained game at full price. Now you have to pay that price again just to get a good enough chance to get the item or whatever you want.

user, you and I both know that's not the same. You can buy cards in boosters, starter packs, individually, etc... all that you need to play are the cards.
If MTG followed the vidya lootcrate system, you'd be required to buy a $60 MTG license before you're allowed to purchase or play with any sort of card.

nah. a starter deck is more like a pre-release "unlock half of the champs and also get 2 skins for one champ", rather than the main game.
you can theoretically just buy boosters and trade cards to get a good deck going, meanwhile in vidja only games that let you do that are F2P, that, like said, is fine

Top isn't considered gambling because each patch contains a set number of cards with at least 1 of them being of rare. Without this one guaranteed rare card it would actually be considered gambling.

Second down is considered gambling if the value of the prize exceeds a certain value.

Third one down isn't even fucking legal in the US anyway.

Not exactly sure of the 4th one but if I'm not mistaken it's contents are not random, they just periodically change and you don't know whats inside until you open (but everyone who buys one at the same time will get the same stuff inside).

So like buying a starter pack for a card game and then buying booster packs for rare cards. Makes sense to me. Why are gamers such babies?

I don't really like the idea of lootboxes but can you really call selling cosmetics on the side of a multiplayer game "charging extra for the complete game"

Most people. I mean, if you never leave Sup Forums your perspective might be skewed, but Linux is still a tiny segment of the user OS market.

At least you can buy cards individually, there's no alternative way to buy around these lootboxes if you don't want to gamble.

so you're saying i have a chance?

>Netflix shows
Yes, stream instead
>Steam games
Yes, pirate instead
>Sup Forums Passes
Yes, shitpost instead
>operating systems
Yes, free upgrades instead

nigga look at he got a point

How is that different from money-less random drops?
Why are you ok with spending 100 hours grinding to get a particular item with a ridiculous drop rate (let's say you make around $10 an hour, that would be ~$1000) but not paying the same amount of money to get it directly?

You do know the difference is that Blizzard actually assigns value to the stuff you can get in loot boxes while value is not assigned with the others?

>Journey into Nyx
That set is worse than loot boxes desu. Literally one good Commander and one niche eternal card. The rest of the set is dogshit

>Sup Forums Passes

You have to try a little harder if you want to sound legitimate.

Are you retarded

Nice

I have not met a single person who's paid for Windows in almost a decade.
Shit, my fucking 50 year old dad doesn't even pay for Windows anymore.
Why pay Micro$oft $80+ when I can buy a $10 32 GB USB stick, pirate windows, and use that?