Payday thread

What went wrong? Why was the first one so good and the sequel so shit?

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DOES ANYONE WANT TO PLAY THIS SHIT TONIGHT

I WILL REINSTALL

I WILL DO IT

DON'T THINK THAT I WON'T

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Payday 1
>Indie title trying its best to give 10+ hours of gameplay with a nice challenge
Payday 2
>Company in over its head releasing an unfinished product at 2.5x the price of the original
>Blatantly misleads audience on content in product
>Lies about features in the game

There's a couple of reasons.

Second one was fun but it got bloated with DLC. They needed to have a lot more free stuff and have some bigger DLC stuff with a lot more content.

DON'T PUSH ME

I'LL FUCKING DO IT

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO LOSE

>game about robberies
>turns out you are the one getting robbed

You should install it either way, it's a great game.

Infinite amount of DLC
Lootboxes

DO IT YOU FUCKING PUSSY

Yeah, agreed. I'm glad that they tried to do something about it by combining all the DLC into a much cheaper pack. There used to be like 200 dollars worth of DLC but now, it's all 40$ and all future DLC is free. I think OVERKILL might be repairing the mistake they made with PD2 so they can make the same one with Payday 3

1 got this beautiful man on development, 2 doesn't in a long time, simple.

>DLC is 85% of the game
>same 4 enemy models
>churn out quantity>quality dlc
>assault rifles have too much recoil and shotguns make the game a breeze

Is it just me or is Payday 2 much easier, even without skills?

Payday 2 started becoming shit when they added the "comedy" stuff with Safehouse and other recent updates. Payday The Heist used to take itself seriously, what happened?

DON'T SAY I DIDN'T FUCKING WARN YOU

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DLC made things easy, I remember Deathwish was actually a challenge when it first came out

Payday 2 is what happens when you don't have a creative head behind the project that steers it into a focused direction. It's like the thing was updated by a democratic committee.
It's incredibly schizophrenic. It has too much content bloat. The transporter missions for example. They all play out the same, basically just a slightly different environment every time. If you played one of them you essentially played all. Also, stealth is incredibly bad in groups, you are better off going into a private lobby and doing them solo.

They just need to trim the fat, make sure that new missions actually add to the game. Also, don't fucking introduce 5 million different playable characters. Hoxton vs Houston was fine because it had some story reasons and there are missions centered around Hoxton's reintroduction. It would be much better if the cast would stay the original 4-5 characters so they could let them have some more voice lines and banter on each mission.

YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THAT GLASS BREAKS

Will the Switch port be better since everything "should" be there from the get go?

Second question: do you think they'll go full jew and have shit as DLC day 1 even though it's on the cart?

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If you wanna play it, hit me up.

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wrong character, pal.

I enjoyed Payday 2 but it quickly went into a full stealth or nothing route where you had to build full stealth or people would leave and then if you failed you'd have people quit because they'd get swarmed and they built full stealth. I just wanted to be a one man army and slaughter my way out man.

The first one wasn't trying to be an RPG, you can't complete shit without leveling first.

Download finished. Who else wants to play a little Payday tonight?

anyone with more than 100 hours can give me a quick rundown on this game?
is this a good game for grinding and having fun like killing floor 1/2?
PLEASE RESPOND

>Alarm sounds as part of the music

Payday has some god tier songs

Yes

This game made me realize I have a thing for women swearing.
I like it.

Payday wanted to be cinematic "in a good way": the devs wanted Heat: The Game

Payday 2 decided to go for an RPG Grind route no one asked for and added too much comedy and DLC's along the way

>Streets of Rogue
NICE

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But the second one was much better, worse stealth elements but overall 2 is vastly superior.

Yeah, it is. Think of Payday: The Heist as a campaign based game where you focus mainly on the heists themselves, kinda like Left 4 Dead.
Payday 2 is more of a grind based game, like.. Well, KF2. I got 1,500 hours.

Viklund is a god.

I don't agree with the sentiment that Payday: The Heist wasn't a little silly. I mean, you strapped a guy in a chair and he was flown up by a balloon being caught by a plane. The objectives were quite silly and are nonsensical out of context. I felt as if that was the point. It's the reason First World Bank was so boring.

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any tips for new players?

ayy

Don't wander away from the rest of the group

Just keep tapping

>get a good working build
>do objectives
>dont wander too far away from the group
>get fucking inspire if you play on anything above overkill

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>They added a fucking normal difficulty mask
why

>What went wrong? Why was the first one so good and the sequel so shit?

Too much emphasis on stats and builds over genuine skill. Shit is just to jarring in a somewhat down to earth game about simply robbing shit.

>Payday 1
Position
Get ready to pull the job
Take out all the guards
Set things up
The cops come in a fair and fun amount of time. Never too many or few at once
Most of the levels are fun and challenging
shit stealth
Music is pretty good
>Payday 2
Shit stealth
More enemies at any point than a zombie game
Weapons aren't as fun to use
Builds make the game more like an fps horde diablo than a heist game
Level design is awful
Difficulty is either super easy or insanely hard
Most of the tracks are shitty dubstep garbage

Now don't get me wrong, I like payday 2. But it's hardly even close to what the first game tried to do

Shotguns deal full damage if a single pellet hits. Further pellets don't deal additional damage. Shotguns can headshot. Shotgun skill tree is least point intensive. The loco shotgun(secondary weapon) deletes every normal on your screen and has almost infinite ammo.
If you feel inclined to use akimbo weapons, don't use anything except the berettas. Every other gun has shit ammo pickup. Actually, don't use akimbo weapons because they take 30 skill points and a fully leveled perk deck(rogue) to use.
Overkill is the "normal" difficulty of this game. Anything that isn't a headshot deals no fucking damage on this difficulty.

they descided to clone l4d instead of making an actual heist game

Yeah, thanks for showing that this thing, which 99% of people know about at least since Metal Gear 5 know, exists.

The point of the previous poster was obviously not, that this thing exists at all, but that this is used in a heist setting, in which you usually want to avoid being tracked and or discovered.
And using a highly visible balloon and an airplane in controlled airspace, in contrast to bumfuck nowhere in the afghan desert is in fact a bit silly.

fucking singleplayer bots are better than most players

>more enemies at any point than a zombie game

This right here is what made me stop playing.

Like why am I killing multiple city's worth of police forces to rob a tiny jewelry store?

There should be way fewer cops but make them actually lethal individually.

Well then he shouldve phrased it like that instead of what he actually said. It is silly, but if you think about it most of the game is.

>why am I killing multiple city's worth of police forces to rob a tiny jewelry store?

this was the biggest thing to break the game for me; the cops never behave like cops.

> It is silly, but if you think about it most of the game is.

that's exactly what my point was, troglodyte.

'scuse me then mate.

The silliest thing about Payday 2 is that Homeland Security actually does something.