What's objectively the best ending in New Vegas?

What's objectively the best ending in New Vegas?

The one where you get that Robot army, ready to bring some bad times to those NCR Fucktards

Independent good karma courier ruling over the Mojave.

Legion with Caesar's death and all of your companions deaths.

For Vegas: House
For the player: Independent
For the people: NCR
For no one: Caesar

>For the people: NCR
how can you say this
house will have people in orbit within 100 years

House if he doesn't go mad. NCR if they successfully rebuild america (which apparently will take a millennium at the rate they are going) one day.

Independent and Caesar inevitably lead to conflict in the region

independent because ancap paradise

How can you tell he isnt just talking about a small group of people from Vegas he himself chose?
House is only concerned about New Vegas and nothing else so I dont think he would let anyone from Freeside or further out to hop on into his spaceships.
The NCR is doing an effort to rebuild, while House is more concerned with abandoning Earth, and with it all the people he won't bring with him.

Some people in space is better than no people in space.

Not for the people not in space. Besides House is a total neet. He'd probably just fuck off with his robot waifus and leave everyone else behind.

Status Quo :^)

>total neet
>He'd probably just fuck off with his robot waifus and leave everyone else behind.
Is he, dare I say, /ourguy/?

The Legion was the only group to achieve absolute peace, though at the cost fo the freedom of all they oppose.
so I'd say legion

great kahn northwestern empire.

My khan

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Convincing Papa Khan to break his alliance with Caesar and telling him to leave the Mojave and claim the Khan's legacy makes them evacuate Red Rock Canyon during Hoover Dam II, and they get their shit together thanks to the Followers of the Apocalypse and set up a prosperous culture in the northwest

>prosperous culture
how long until they start raiding and dealing drugs again you khan fucking scum

They're like a meme faction now, always talking about how great they can be but actually they're just drug dealers

Overall it's hard to say.

For the courier themselves, house. You get to do whatever the fuck you want, just have to do the occasional job for house to keep the caps rolling in. NCR just gives you a fucking medal and that's it, legion puts your face on a coin which is cool while independent you'll have to try and keep all the factions from killing each other.

I personally go house but that's because I wouldn't want to be in charge and wouldn't know Jack shit about running a nation. You always have Yes man if house goes too far do you can take over if necessary.

Best case scenario they don't.
Worst case scenario we just have the NCR genocide them again like the New Khans and the Original Khans before them.

How is independent good for the courier?

he can do whatever he wants

The Khan's are the fucking dindus of the fallout universe.

>Start raiding and robbing people outside of vegas from bitter springs.
>NCR gets sick of your shit and decides to deal with you.
>Bunch of elderly (Khan's who couldn't raid or kill so good anymore), children (who you were planning to raise into more Khan's) get killed due to a fuck up in communications
>WE WUZ GOOD BOIS, WE DINDU NUFFIN MAN

Even a kid raised by the Khan's, bitter root realises how shit they are. The only good ending for the Khan's is having them suicide bomb the legion, otherwise some of them still manage to escape and rebuild again.

I'm pretty sure that's the case for each ending, save maybe House, and even then that would just mean you'd have to stay close to the mojave when he's got a job for you.

Because then the Courier gets everything Hosue offers but the oportunity to shape the wastes to thier will in greater extents too. Implying the Courier keeps the NCR treaty a thing he just reaps rewards more and more making the NCR pay for electricity and having Vegas as a money Sinkhole for their economy.
With the war with Caesar over, the Legion retreating and probably crumbling along the way, if Caesar is dead, The NCR can just divert most of their economy to keeping a steady flow of power in their territory, and the Courier keeps that money which would make him rhe richest man in the wasteland.
House just gives the Courier fancy shit.

no he cant, the other endings mean that you're serving under house, ncr, legion,...
independent is just that, independent

House gives the Courier fancy shit.
NCR delcares the Courier a war hero and gives them a medal.
Legion declares them a war hero and puts their face on a coin.
Independent let's the Courier control all of Vegas, who lives or dies and reap all rewards.

NCR is the best, most reasonable option
You could make an argument for house
Independent is just for faggots who wanted to write fanfic about their ebin courier taking over the wastelands
Legion is for edgy retards who think Caesar quoting Hegel makes him "like, super deep man"

No it doesn't. It says they leave the Mojave and then sponge more information off the Followers and make an "empire"

The last time the Followers helped them they became drug dealers. Nothing suggests they changed their ways when they went up north and learned about government and infrastructure. Everything suggests they just became a less impressive Caesar's Legion knock off.

>not even the AI designed to be completely neutral on everything dosen’t like the Kahns

Then what is the best option? NCR alliance or genocide 3: the final slaughter?

Convince them to suicide against the Legion. Let them do something worthwhile for once in their goddamn lives

Independent with Jesus Courier because it's a power fantasy and lets you handpick everything yourself. You get the highest amount of good ending slides and everyone lives happily ever after, save for the MuhCodexhood who only open up somewhat in the NCR alliance ending and Followers who also get a slightly greyer ending. It's probably also the intended developer message since NCR, Legion and House all get criticized for trying to emulate the Old World (and letting go of the past is a theme in all DLC and companion quest lines) whereas Independent path doesn't get such comparisons.

Why even post if you havent even played the game?
>During the Battle of Hoover Dam, the Great Khans quickly evacuated Red Rock Canyon and headed north and east into the plains of Wyoming. There, they reconnected with the Followers of the Apocalypse and rebuilt their strength. Bolstered by ancient knowledge of governance, economics, and transportation, they carved a mighty empire out of the ruins of the Northwest

Why even reply if you can't read? I made my argument and what you've posted does nothing to change it because, if you could read, you'd see that I was talking about that ending specifically.

false, ncr gets the most good ending slides

>nothing suggests they changed their ways
>carved a mighty empire with knowledge of governance, economics and transportation
are you just another one of those "my headcanon is real canon" idiots

>carved a mighty empire
That sure sounds like they stopped being aggressive assholes
>knowledge of governence, economics and transportation
Knowledge of these things does not mean they became better people, it means they have knowledge of those things and put it to use.

I'm not going to reply to your retardation any more. The only person with headcanon here is you.

>after the player makes them happen
So you're admitting that NCR is shit and requires outside agency to affect worthwhile change?

>making a nation is aggresive!
that applies to literally every faction in the fallout universe, you'd know that if you had played the games
>they dont become better people
because im sure a culture would remain unchanged from living in a tiny canyon to rulers of a mighty empire, right?

also
>im not gonna respond anymore because i wanna get the last post
nice one kiddo

He would pick the best and most able, just lile he picked the Courier, what's wrong with that? Should he spent all his resources picking Freeside hobos randomly just because it's fairer?

independent ending is shit too if you don't affect change, but ncr is better

>Implying anything gets done without player intervention
By that logic every town in Fallout 1 should have been wiped out by the Mutant Army.
The Enclave would've succeeded in killing everyone in mainland America in 2.
Same for 3.
The Institute wouldve destroyed the Railroad, Brotherood and Minutemen.

It's not a matter of simple player intervention, it's a matter of the player intervening directly to get a better outcome

If the player does the absolute bare minimum in 1 or 2 bad things usually end up happening. The same thing applies to NV, it's just now bad things happen because NCR is a greedy state run by idiots and it's not "a bad situation got worse and no one in the wasteland cared to help".

Oh sorry, I double-checked and you're indeed correct, though some parts like Goodsprings and Primm get slightly better endings in Independent path. Taxation is theft, who knew? However for the latter you can get the better ending even with NCR main ending as long as you don't do the actual pro-NCR objective in the quest itself, same for Khans where you can get their best ending if you make them leave instead of allying them with NCR.

the same literally applies to all factions in all games

The "Raul becoming a vigilante vaquero" one.

the one where the great khans forge a mighty empire

House, and not because I like him as a leader, but because...
NCR victory would mean that Kimball and his cronies will be proved right, and that the NCR will keep its relentless expansion going at the cost of internal development.
If the NCR gets cut off by New Vegas, they will see that the Military has failed them. They will elect politicians who resolve the issues that are plaguing them, and be better off in the long run.
So, therefore, if you're a fan of the NCR, the best thing to do would be to support House

toast em

So, a fanfic ending?

Whatever happened to the Shi?

I too, have no originality

Any mods that make the animations and general response of melee/unarmed better?

BROTHER

they mind their own business

>NCR literally gives the best endings to nearly all factions
>people try to argue that NCR is the worst ending

while I agree that House shouldnt waste his tame picking a random freeside squatter over, say, some engineer who lives in the Strip, that still would be putting a few over everyone else.

Doing the bare minimum in Fallout 1 gets Tandi raped and killed by Khanniggers who will still be raiding everyone in the wasts.
Shady Sands never becomes the NCR
Keeps
It might get every town killed in the end by Mutants.
But instead Tandi survives and becomes president of the NCR for decades.
NCR prospers.
no one but Necropolis gets razed to the ground by mutants.

This is a valid point friendo. I believe Kimball's management is a big part of the NCR's probelms. With a much more diplomatic president in office maybe the NCR has the chance to shine again.
Part of me wonders if letting him be assasinated but still having the NCR win the Damn Dam would be better than keeping him alive.

>turned seaweed into oil
>repair power armour and vertibirds
>rediscovering nuclear power plant schematics
There's little chance NCR didn't try and steamroll them

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headcanon is that NCR vertibirds + Chinse last names in NCR high ranking positions = Shi occupied by NCR.

I think having him be assasinated and then winning the damn would be a bad idea- it would turn him into a martyr for the war.
God, it could even lead to Oliver getting elected

Yeah, after some thought it would be a fucking disaster to do that.

Caesar's Legion of course.

Does this mean the Shis are the jews of the NCR?

I can smell the neogaf scum in this thread

Yes Man is the best thematically, but also the best logically.

It's literally the same as the House ending, except the Courier is in charge of the Strip and MAYBE Vegas a whole such as Freeside, Westside etc but the rest of the Mojave is the same as it would be under House.

House is worse for Vegas than a good karma courier (or hell, even bad depending on your view) since he ends up turning Vegas into an autocratic police state. The endings for House literally say this. Anyone who says he's some saviour of mankind was not paying attention, evidently. The fact that his vision for improvement never extend beyond maximizing revenue for the Strip in any practical way, his wanking over the glory and glamour of old vegas and the whole snowglobe thing is meant to tip you off to the fact that what he really cares about is his little shiny snowglobe that he can control, and nothing more.

Thematically Yes Man is best because it's the most fitting ending for the "letting go" theme. All the other factions are in someway harboured by the Old World and stuck in its ways. In a more western/cowboy sense Sawyer himself said that the Yes Man questline was meant to evoke the Eastwood style wandering gunslinger playing all the big factions off of eachother and walking out on top himself. Wild Card with its lack of ideology or flag also places you in direct antithesis with Ulysses, who is meant to be your rival.

no, just the Chinese of the NCR

>It's literally the same as the House ending

>yes man
>the best in any way
kys fanfiction writer
yes man was added for people who couldnt make a simple decision

and how does House change anything apart from his tariff plan against the NCR? House governs Vegas, not the Mojave.

It depends on how you built your character. As far as I am concerned, the best endings are either Legion or House. Let me explain.

With House, you're basically gonna go to space. Well, not you, but House and the rest of New Vegas eventually. Everything outside of New Vegas is fucked though because House literally only cares about his city. Everyone and everything else can get fucked as far as he is concerned, which imo is selfish. It is viable though.

The Legion is basically the House ending without leaving everyone else behind. Basically, you're uniting everyone kicking and screaming the whole way. It was said Legion highways are rarely fucked with by raiders/fiends, and no one likes to stir trouble with the Legion period. To me, it sounds like the Legion is pretty secure. The name alone grants protection. There is literally no in-fighting either, unlike the NCR and potentially House with the criminal families. People say that will change though when Caesar dies. I personally disagree, Caesar makes it clear he doesn't see Lanius as anything more than a hammer and never officially declares him anything more than a Legate. If you build a wise, charismatic character you have the chance to impress Caesar several times beyond just doing what he asks of you. You can even spare the BoS after he tells you to kill them, and you can convince why that is better and he'll commend you. You have a lot of chances to make your case as heir, and even though it is neither confirmed nor denied, I bet Caesar would make the Courier his heir if you play it well. This is all just my opinion though.

Regardless, anything is better than the NCR.

None of them
The main theme of New Vegas is letting go, with most of the DLCs and several quests being based around moving on from the Old World and giving up on past grievances
All of the factions wish to build upon something from the Old World, which will inevitably cause it to end up like the Old World once again
I would say that the Independence ending is the closest fit for it but it still allows for groups such as the Boomers whose lives are based around Old World tech, but the general consensus is that anyone who doesn't pick a faction ending is a retard of some kind and so I'm not even gonna go there

the Brahman barons are canonically the jews of the ncr. they can wave money around to bypass laws and shit

The one where you kill everybody but Primm Slimm and hang out with your cool robot friend

>letting go theme
i wish this meme would die

I was talking more in a sense of an infulential minority getting high ranking government/corporate seats.
But yes, the Brahmin Barons are the Jews of the NCR in terms of money waving their problems away.

>meme

its not a very subtle theme dude

>tfw couldn't let go

You did let go, right?

It's more "recreating the new world in the image of the old" but the same thing applies to that as well

How the fuck do I know if the 4gb patcher is working? I can't notice any substantial improvement on my game's performance.

I like Yes Man because I can destroy every faction in the game.

unless youre doing intensive shit you wont notice

Caesar's Legion only takes aesthetic inspiration from Rome, nothing else. They're a radically different society to anything found in the old world
NCR is an actual democracy, the USA in the fallout timeline was pretty much a totalitarian dictatorship
Yet people keep insisting they "cling to the old world"

Realistically it would probably be House, but the Anarchy ending is probably actually the best ending because it fits the themes of the game the most.

T H E

H O U S E

A L W A Y S

W I N S

>Caesar's Legion only takes aesthetic inspiration from Rome, nothing else. They're a radically different society to anything found in the old world

They're not total recreation of rome but they take slightly more beyond that. Either way, they have to cling to ancient rome to maintain themselves, the aesthetic is basically a stand in for the monolithic culture which is key to the Legions survival. That and they're pretty textbook fascism/authoritarianism

>NCR is an actual democracy, the USA in the fallout timeline was pretty much a totalitarian dictatorship

Literally taken out of your ass. The NCR is also called an old world style government repeatedly throughout the game. The narrator even says it's old world in the fucking intro.

>Doing LR for the first time
>Getting one shot by the deathclaws and two shot by the tunnelers of any variant while I have 40 DT, Buffout, and Med-X
Is this normal? This elevator into Ashton is making me want to kill myself

You know how Caesar's Legion has elements of Ancient Rome in it?

Yeah. NCR is taking their cue from American history as a whole, not the Pre-War Enclave. Why do people keep saying shit like that? Pre-War means any time before the bombs fell. They are copying A version of America that existed Pre-War.

Lonesome Road is supposed to be the hardest DLC you know
Should at least deck out in tank as fuck standard armour or power armour before you even try the start.

level?
DLC levelling breaks at high player levels

Med-X, Slasher and Battle Brew. Hit the DR cap at 85%, walk through anything without issue.

Letting go is the message, the actual central theme is nostalgia.
>All the major players are trying to rebuild the world by emulating the past
>Nearly all of the companions and DLC characters are hung up by their past
>Even the game itself is trying to recreate the Fallout 1 & 2 CRPG experience within Fallout 3's framework.

I let go WITH the gold.

I'm wearing the Remnant power armor.
That would explain it, I'm level 47. I'm basically done with the game, I just have LR and then the dam left.

muh horse archers

They only cling to the aesthetics and overarching ideas of america- theyre nothing like the america of the fallout universe

>monolithic culture
which rome wasn't at all. its purely aesthetic, and by that i mean images/names/ranks etc, theres no actual emulation of roman tactics, governance or philosophy

Tbh i think new vegas as a whole is pretty stupid and misses the point of fallout

>theyre nothing like the america of the fallout universe

You keep saying this as if there's any source for it outside of headcanon.

>which rome wasn't at all. its purely aesthetic, and by that i mean images/names/ranks etc, theres no actual emulation of roman tactics, governance or philosophy

Speaking of missing the point you missed mine. The monolithic culture, the usage of the roman aesthetic to replace the tribal identities of the Legion, is key to the Legions survival. They have to cling to worshipping Old World aesthetics/ideas so they dont actually split apart at the seams.