I swear, if there was a scene similar to this in a sonic game you guys would all be shitting on it

i swear, if there was a scene similar to this in a sonic game you guys would all be shitting on it.

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Call when Bowser tortures Mario for six months on end and then we'll talk.

but you posted Monster Hunter, not Sonic

This looks absolutely fucking retarded. Isn't Bowser supposed to be the big dragon antagonist of Mario. Why is he riding on a significantly bigger more threatening looking dragon while wearing a suit and top hat like some kind of retarded joke character?

you have never played a Mario game before have you?

>5 foot 9 versus 6 foot 1

When is Nintendo going to release the superior updated model of the Switch because you know those niggers are going to do one.

I played Mario up to 64 and didn't touch any of the main games again after that.

Ur dragon

Heres the thing. No Mario game has ever done this before. We're used to seeing cartoony shit in Mario games, not semi-realistic shit.

Because Bowser's power level is higher than the Dragon's so what does it matter

Well I imagine the differences is that with Sonic, it would take a scene like that completely serious cause it's all related to some big back story. With Mario it's probably just a unexpected thing appearing that's related to the level they're in.

If his power level is higher then why does he need to use the dragon?

Is this the first time Nintendo has canonically acknowledge Mario being a plumber?

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Someone has the crash bandicoot version?

Neogaf was destroyed, fuck off already, Neocunt.

they mention it in the M&L games

fucking faggot.
Stop typing, get the fuck out, and go back to neofag.

CAN'T HOOOOLLD ON MUCH LONGER

Bowser is just the opener for some other villain about half the time.

Paper Mario, the most cartoony Mario, is plagued by realistic shit now

Wouldn't a neofag have played ALL the mario games?

I've literally never been to that website in my life.

they started to characterize Bowser in sunshine. He is barely even a bad guy anymore.

Because if it was a sonic game you know it would be because Sega is trying to take the game too seriously.

It works here because the entire concept of a realistic dragon is so absolutely rediculous in a Mario game, everyone gets that it's a joke and isn't meant to actually be super epic cool

Here is the reason why. Mario has an established aesthetic that was built up for years. He is to this day the most "videogamey character" because Miyamoto never forgot that videogames are videogames FIRST. Part of Oddysey's theme is to explore unfamiliar territory which means they decided to switch up the aesthetic of the different territories, both to make them feel fresh and new and to be humorous in contrast.
The entire reason New Donk city is full of realistic humans is because it's supposed to be aesthetically humorous to see bing bing wahoo next to more realistic looking people.

The reason it doesn't work with sonic is because sonic killed its aesthetic early on and takes it seriously. Sonic started out with some simple, establishing aesthetic; he was a blue hedgehog with attitude who fought a mad scientist who destroys the environment for his machines.

They destroyed their own cartoony aesthetic (which was designed to make Sonic easy to draw) to establish gritty "realism" by the time Adventure came around. Even before that the simple Sonic universe became autistic furfag DBZ about muh emuuralds. The theme wasn't simple eco-friendly megman anymore, it was a super serious edgster gang of teen animals fight against a brutally evil scientist, cold uncaring realistic human military institutions, giant ancient evil water Biolante and a bunch of other retarded shit.

It's equivalent would be like Mario going to war with hyper realisitc demon king Dai Satan using advanced power armor and a rocket skateboard before he sacrifices Princess Peach to open the gates of Neo-Death-Fire to let through his demonic army. Mario would go Super Mario Blanco by gathering the infinity souls and the strength of all his friends to punch Dai Satan in the face.

See how autistic that sounds? That's what modern sonic is and that is why the super realistic shit in Sonic Forces is mocked.

Why did Vegeta even need Nappa? Sometimes all you need is a friend.

Wait what?

for transportation dumbfuck. bowser's fat as fuck, he's just using the dragon for a ride, might as well attack mario with it.

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>Semi-Realistic
>Purple fucking dragon

Sonic the Hedgehog was canonically tortured for months, fucking hell who writes this and thinks it's acceptable?

Sonic Team.

The start of 3D World has them fixing a pipe ya blockhead.

Amy seems pretty happy about it.

I like it because it's Rathalos in a Mario game


Also Sonic had Perfect Chaos and it wasn't a big deal back then in 1999

>giant-ass thunder dragon boss
>bing bing wahoo its head thrice to win
literally Dark Souls

You're like a baby. Watch this
youtube.com/watch?v=-mhB2wo1hmA

It was all illusions so it's fine.

my favorite rathalos in bideo games is alduin

>it's real

The spy is Sonic?

I think you misread the image, the spy found where Sonic was being held.

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How many fucking artstyles did they shove into 1 game?!

Just 1. It's called autism

I have critiqued it. The dragon and the Dark Souls-like tower come out of nowhere, don't for the games aesthetic at all, and it's over in 5 minutes and never spoken of again.

This at the JPOP theme at the end of the game were stupid and cringe as fuck.

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woah!

Because shit like this happens in literally every Sonic 3D game. When it happens in Mario it's like "Oh shit I was not expecting this at all". When it happens in Sonic it's like "Oh there's the big monster. Okay".

>You can speak with the dragon after you beat his ass
>He just says he's tired.

>Nintendo just recently claimed Mario was only a plumber a long time ago
>Bowser outright calls him a pesky plumber again

It's a gag. He's always been a plumber, but the joke is he never seems to do any plumber-like stuff.

It's a character deprived of its roots completely, like a fanfiction made real.

I personally blame Penders for this. He was so salty nobody liked "The Lost Ones" or whatever he dumped his shitty sci-fi/fantasy ideas into a fucking comic about a hedgehog. Maybe clashing things was just a product of the 90's like with TMNT but for whatever reason it just completely fucked over Sonic.
Maybe it was also Sonic Sat AM that instilled the gritty "realism" into it?

Or maybe it was just the autistic fans. I mean we have seen how they do fanfiction. They'll insert characters or create stories completely out of the source materials "universe" and even get off to surreal cross-IP shit like what bronies did by inserting horses into fucking everything imaginable.

Because autistic people will obsess over something for years, they will modify it to accommodate their own changes in life such as puberty or adulthood. For example, Chris-Chan dragging along his sonic obsession into his 30s, where he makes "comics for kids" but includes sex and adult themes. It's not just him, you see it with all of them. Take some childish thing and make it edgy, serious and mature to accommodate your descend into "manhood" as your childish mindset conflicts with sexual desire and a need to be seen as mature.

Sonic is like the embodiment of it, it behaves as if it's owned by an autistic person who wants the series to be seen as mature, trying to stoke the fire that the first game brought and keep it relevant to an aging fanbase.

>I personally blame Penders for this.

Only Penders would think his drivel had any influence over Sonic Team.

It's a lot of morons being at charge at Sega.

They either copy bad anime or think returning to their roots means low effort plasticine bullshit and rehashing old content.

Imagine how Sonic will be when the average age of the fanbase is like 50

Maybe, but he was one of the first people to start chipping away at the original idea of sonic in favor of autistic garbage.

>i swear, if there was a scene similar to this in a sonic game you guys would all be shitting on it.
Yeah no shit, you know why? Because literally every 3D Sonic game ever released was fucking shit.

sonic adventure 1 is better than any 3d mario game you fucking fag

Fleetway and the Manga did their own, non-Sonicy things as well. You're giving him too much credit.

Penders was the result of the severe lack of communication from Sega and Archie's general incompetence.

>Copy bad anime
You reminded me about Sonic X, which was essentially Edgy Sonic fanfiction. How is it that japan is more autistic than the west when it comes to Sonic?
>Sonic in the human world
>completely fucking serious about it the entire way through

So what you're saying is, Japan also had completely autistic "developments" for sonic? No matter what it all seems to go down the same route of terrible ideas.

what I'm saying is that blaming licensed media for Sega's stupidity is retarded

I'm not, I'm trying to find the origin of the phenomenon in which Sega allowed and approved this multi-origin path towards modern Sonic autism.

That's more of a gore magala though.

It's not rocket science. After Sonic Adventure, Sega began treating Sonic as an action hero and as such his stories became more over the top as time went on (up until Colors, at least). Forces tried to market itself as a return to that kind of story but it's all just a red herring.

But what made them decide to make Sonic Adventure so over the top?

You know Japan didn't get season 3 outside of a rental service right? It was more for gaijins.

BUT I'LL NEVER LET GOOOO

They needed a big must-have showcase game for the Dreamcast. It checks all the "next gen" boxes nicely (grafix, voice acting, higher quality music, multiple gameplay styles, fishing, etc.).

It's actually quite jarring to read if you don't have prior knowledge of the Mario lore.
The game assumes you already know Mario is a plumber for that line because it isn't mentioned anywhere else.

Then why not just keep the classic sonic aesthetics and not start the clashing overly detailed shit an "serious" plot? Do you not see the irony of it all becoming too similar to its licensed fanfiction wank?

This scene has been in EVERY 3D Sonic game and all of those games were hot garbage. Mario Odyssey is actually fun

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Well, you see, the thing is, Mario is actually good...

Wait. Bowser talks now?

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Bowser has been talking since Super Mario Sunshine

Odyssey really is the Sonic 06 of Mario and this confirms it

That's why we call it 06yssey after all

he only talked in sunshine

Is this fucking real?

same thing with the dinosaur in the trailer
some people were shitting on it but everyone else got it was just for the hilarity of having a t-rex with a mario hat

pretty sure he talked in super mario rpg, oh and the OG super mario show!

Holy shit my sides. Best meme.

That level and boss design is fantastic. I love it.

Shame the level was too small.

If it was in Sonic, the dragon would be some kind of ancient evil god that Robotnik inadvertently woke from it's slumber which is now the new antagonist. Sonic, Robotnik, Shadow, *new OC do not steal introduced in this game*, and everyone else have to work together to stop it or else it will eat all of reality or some shit. It ends with Super Sonic finally defeating it, and *new character* either sacrifices them-self, or returns to their home dimension (only to show up in the next game anyway).

In Mario Odyssey, it's just Bowser has a dragon pet. That's it.

>In Mario Odyssey, it's just Bowser has a dragon pet. That's it.

it's an ancient evil called the fucking Lord of Lightning
Shitendo really appealing to the sonic 06 fanbase

She even has that blank stare from Tails gets Trolled.

That's a sweet looking dragon

It's funny in Mario. Sonic plays all the autistic bullshit straight and it's embarrassing.

Literally "it's okay when nintendo does it"