Lack of SMS in Odyssey

lack of SMS in Odyssey
>No buyable Hawaiian shirt / Sunglasses outfit
>Lots of Super Mario 64 references but none from Sunshine
>no Piantas or Nokis
>and of course, No Delfino Isle
Why does it seem like nintendo wants us to forget this game existed?

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because it was a shit game you fucking idiot

haha what do you mean user there's a sunshine reference when you get every single moon

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Not that guy but it's true, Sunshine was incredibly half-assed, some of the worst level design in Mario history

Because Super Mario Sunshine Remix is coming out in less than six months, comes with Odyssey content for Preordering.

probably because sm64 was much more well-remembered and people will be more likely to get the references from it
the same reason they'd be happier to put a reference to world rather than land

This

fpbp

Reminder that all the sunshine fags are underage faggots who first game was s mario sunshine and never played 64

Because they're going to sell it as DLC.

Odyssey takes place before Sunshine, that's why Bowser had no memories of it.

>Why does it seem like nintendo wants us to forget this game existed?
Because they do. Face it user, Sunshine is, was, and will remain the forgotten bastard child of the 3D Mario series.

At least you got that course in Mario Kart 8.

>DLC gets released that's just Isle Delfino as a world
>Cappy can take control of Fludd just making mario sunshine Mario
>It would make sense since the Odyssey can just travel to it on Earth

Mario doesn't have a timeline, each game is a different universe and they only have memories of past universes if the devs want them to as a joke. The devs don't treat the story seriously, so only crazies try to find lore.

My first game was Donkey Kong on the intellivision. Doubt you're old enough to even know what that shit is without a google search.

Odyssey takes place before Sunshine you fucking retards

Reminder that Sunshine is fun and a good game, Sup Forums hates fun and good games, so that's why Sup Forums doesn't like Sunshine.

Pretty simple if you think about it.

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I am sure it will be a DLC, just like Fart of the wild

What are the chances of getting DLC for this when they didn't announce it before release?

odyssey is literally sunshine 2.0

Because Sunshine fucking sucked, pretty much like the entire Cube library. I'll never get why autismos (like you seem to be) worship this shit and Melee, for example.

Create a thread whenever they decide to make an Eternal Darkness remake, or a remake of any decent game.

The real question is why autismos like you are so triggered over people like the gamecube and its games.

>captain toad
>before sunshine

God I wish sunshine didn't have to live in the shadow of 64

You may not be serious but I actually agree with you, except for Metroid Prime 1 and 2, the Gamecube was overall very lackluster with rushed ass games, most noticeably Sunshine having 43 red/blue coin collecting shines, all the reused bosses with no change in their battles and all the obligatory shadow mario chase missions. Wind Waker had the triforce hunt to make up for the removed dungeons and even Prime 1 and 2 had the artifact/key hunt.

I like sunshine and I've played 64 its almost like magic

Jesus, I just realized that Bowser Jr didn’t show up in Oddyssey. I think you’re right.

Because Sunshine is a shit rushed game with abysmal level design

Odyssey is a result of Nintendo being ashamed of how they fucked up Sunshine

Sunshine isn't that good and platforming is useless most of the time when you can just use FLUDD to traverse stages. .

>bowser jr wasn't partof galaxy 1
It must be a prequel!

>he doesn't know

Lol

Unironically because of this.
I would hardly call Sunshine a shit game, but it's easily the most flawed out of the 3D Mario games. It has fantastic movement, similar to 64 and Odyssey, but it has a very small selection of music (multiple remixes of the Isle Delfino theme don't count), the fact that everything is a beach level, and FLUDD Nozzles that aren't Rocket / Turbo are some big flaws, just to name a few.

>Mario
>no lore

look at this fucking guy over here

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there's nothing against that

It's a prequel.
Note the lack of Bowser Jr.

What is Bubblaine?

The devs of Odyssey are likely the generation who grew up with Mario 64, so it only makes sense they'd give that game the most love, on top of it being the game that started free exploration 3D Mario games.

The timeline for 3D titles is :
64 > Odyssey > Sunshine > Galaxy > 3D World

Jr was in Galaxy 1 though

Captain Toad was exploring the Universe long before Mario even met Peach.

The game has the spin jump from sunshine. But really nothing else from Sunshine is worth having. A lot of Odyssey's design involves correcting design failures Sunshine suffered from.

Like how even though it's linear you have a lot of freedom over the order you collect the moons. The linear aspect is a particular conflict and how Mario resolves it. Rather than Sunshine's complete 6 random unrelated tasks/missions in a very specific order so that you can chase Shadow Mario in a level. Like you can't chase Shadow Mario in Rico Harbour until you race Bloopers for a Shine.

>lack of Sega Master System in Odyssey
blunder of the century

DLC ;)

Probably gonna be DLC, they wouldn't put it on the map if they wanted us to forget about it.

This. Bubblaine is just one huge Sunshine callback, it's just more subtle than having an actual level from the game or something.
>Basically an expanded version of Gelato Beach, right down to the boss sitting on a tower, needing to knock him off of it, and fighting him with the entire level as the arena
>Gushens act very similarly to FLUDD
>Part of the level involves cleaning up icky, paint-like goop using said Gushens

user, I....

nobody played the gamecube. only a small subsection of nerds. it was a failed console.

every mario game on the wii u will be binned too

>the koopalings aren't part of the game

Oh bot it must be a prequel to smb3!

They just don't wanted to use the samen enemies again. Thats why it lacks jr and koopaling

Why is Sup Forums so fucking stupid?

Sunshine was all over the place in that regard. Certain areas had clear story arcs (the pollution in Noki Bay, the Sand Bird egg in Gelato Beach, the hauntings of Hotel Delfino) with the implication that Mario eventually flushes out Shadow Mario, hence why every seventh episode needed to be cleared.
But then you get stuff like the blooper surfing which is filler.

Jr. is the worst Mario character by far and the Koopalings are so stale already, I'm glad we got something to change it up a bit

Nice try, but Bowser's memories include Mario 3 and Mario World. It's after 64 that the Odyssey images start popping up.
And given that Odyssey is generally considered to be the Mario 64 sequel that never happened, it's not quite a stretch (or maybe it is).

>world cat suits references
>rosalina reference on the moon
>tanooki tree at peach castle

>i-it's a sequel!

is this the first time people played a mario game? they barely do shoutouts to older games

yfw the bunny’s are in Mario Kart replacing more iconic characters like Waluigi and Donkey Kong, Over half of the roster will be Koopalings and Bunnies, and Kirby and Samus will get in over characters that have been in Mario games for generations.

>they barely do shoutouts to older games
Throwback Galaxy, Mount Must Dash and probably others I can't think of right this second would like a word.

and those are barely references, not even a proper level throwback

I understand Mount Must Dash, but Throwback Galaxy is literally Whomp's Fortress.

Because they want you to forget it

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die

Did anyone hear sunshine bowser boss battle tune in the Japan stage?

Not sure which sunshine track you're referencing, but it sounded more closely related to
youtube.com/watch?v=mP9YBVUpdvM

Its like , a small bit of bowsers boss theme from sunshine plays during showdown with bowser stage

m.youtube.com/watch?t=78s&v=LqntoncPN3I

Starts at 1:11

Yes, that riff is definitely used in Bowser's Kingdom.
youtu.be/8vD-B-P_U0A?t=1m14s

even nintendo recognizes shitshine sucked lol

>Kirby and Samus will get in over characters that have been in Mario games for generations.

down with this

>Mario doesn't have a timeline, each game is a different universe
nigga what? you are wrong, SMS takes place before Luigi's mansion, they talk about "a old man in a white coat" who gave it to bowser jr

The beach level has the capture enemy that basically plays like FLUDD. You even have to clean some lava with it to progress.

one in the pipe

Wonder why just that small riff

But there's more Mario Land references in Odyssey than there are World ones.

What Kingdom does Isle Delfino belong to?

It still gets referenced in other games like Galaxy 2 and Mario Kart 8 at least.

>3D Land got a shout out over Sunshine
It hurts.

>delfino kingdom will come back as a dlc package since nintendo is the only company smart enough to not announce DLC before a game's release these days.

you'll find shines and you'll pay for that shit

FPBP. When will Sunshinebabies finally accept that it's a shit game?

imagine if they let us use the fludd with yoshi?

What happened to Isle Delfino on the world map that was leaked?

Literally what's the point of having the same roster every game? Mario, Luigi, Bowser, and Peach should be the only staples.

Rising seal levels

Uh, no. I mean, there was a world map leaked before the game launched and then Delfino wasn't on the final map.

this?

>Mario, Luigi, Bowser, and Peach should be the only staples.
>Donkey Kong
>Toad
>Toadette
>Wario
>Waluigi
>Daisy
>Rosalina
>Not staples

>Reading Comprehension

>Homer, Marge, Bart and Maggie should be the only staples
>Moe
>Burns
>Apu
>Krusty
>Smithers
>Peter
>Lisa
>Not Staples

>These characters shouldn't be staples.

They shouldn't.

Who should replace them?

Toads

Literally anyone. And after that? Literally anyone. And after that? Cloud Strife.

Yes, that.

>Super Mario Odyssey 2
>Featuring Cloud Strife From The Final Fantasy Series!

Fake leak.

DLC.