Was the Ulduar raid the peak of wow?

Was the Ulduar raid the peak of wow?

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Ulduar are IC Citadel are two of the greatest game moments, the whole expansion was one of the best Blizzard ever created and they promptly shit the bed every year following it.

Ulduar is in a very high place, yes.

Ulduar was the only good raid of wrath

Considering that Ulduar was the one highlight of an otherwise shit expansion, now. It just seems great by comparison.

Ulduar was the greatest raid in human history, before Trial of the Crusader and ICC fucking destroyed WoW

The last work this man did in wow was Ulduar

apologize

>tfw will never raid mythic ulduar again

It was so fun bros...

Icecrown Citadel was

WoW peaked way before ulduar

It could have been, but the healing classes mechanics in wotlk were fucking awful. Paladins almost had infinite mana if played correctly and priests literally only casted circle of healing. Its like blizz had to keep adding more and more instant death mechanics because they couldn't balance healing classes.

>mythic ulduar again
>again

I liked sunwell plateau better.

Karazhan is still the best raid, but Ulduar's up there with AQ40 and Sunwell.

It was the best raid in WotLK by a long shot at the very least. ICC paled in comparison, which was such a disappointment.

>Sup Forums is now full of Wrathbabbies

Ulduar was great but it was the highlight of a pretty pisspoor expansion.

>Wotlk wasn't the pinnacle of WoW.

Fuck off, BC certainly wasn't and vanilla was boring.

1. Ulduar
2. SWP
....
nothing else comes close

Well, wrath did come out almost 10 years ago.

FUCK I FEEL SO OLD

>Was the Naxxramas raid the peak of wow?
Yes it was.

>BC certainly wasn't
You must be 18 years or older to post here.

Just you wait user! The expansion at blizzcon will blow you away!

this

each expansion could've been it's own game, considering how much had changed

What expansion really wasn't shit apart from TBC? Cata ruined leveling, MoP was thematical holocaust, Draenor was a bunch of unfinished scraps, Legion is a waitapalooza with shit content.

>Sunwell
>Good
Holy fuck you are retarded, Sunwell was the pinnacle of going full retard.

Nice elaboration faggot.

>instanced progression
>go leatherworking or go home
>sucks to be you mage
>sucks to have a terrible racial
I quit after the roadblock which was Entropius

>BC certainly wasn't

Why can't Wrathbabies just admit they were 8 years old when BC was out and therefore couldn't play the expansion properly? It's pretty embarrassing when BC is pretty much objectively better and you didn't experience it well enough to form a proper opinion.

cleared in one day on the private vanilla realm

Has anyone played that WoW freeshard where you can make your own class, Asheron's Call style?
I don't even know what it's called or if it's still alive, but I've been jonesing for an MMO lately

>lists only one con and the rest are balacing issues related to the expansion
ok

The values and mechanics are hacked together on private servers, doesn't mean anything.

List some pros then you fucking nigger

This honestly makes me sad. You think the best expansion is the one that literally destroyed all sense of community and killed half the social aspects of the game while also making dungeons so easy that there's literally no reason for anyone to communicate with eachother.

Wrath literally made the game casualbait and you babbies praise it as peak of WoW.

I didn't really mind the LFG tool, manually forming groups via whispers was kinda archaic, but the dumbing down of heroics really sucked.
It felt fucking good to clear a heroic, if you didn't CC all the mobs and manage the mechanics, you got shat on

You know, having actually re-played TBC on private server recently put me into a different kind of perspective. I didn't like the amount of abilities classes had back then and all the shitty talents that barely added anything, that you only picked up to make way to the bottom. (And even then half the specs didn't take the last talent for pve.)

Originally in TBC I was a rogue and it wasn't so bad but damn most casters specs were literally 1-2 button.

Mechanically? No.
Overall? Yeah.

>It felt fucking good to clear a heroic, if you didn't CC all the mobs and manage the mechanics, you got shat on
Remind me in which wrath heroics you actually used CC?

Oh right and profession defined your progression in TBC if you were a caster. If you weren't a tailor for the majority of the expansion you might as well not raid at all.

I miss activating heroic modes by doing weird shit in the encounter itself.

Almost all of them early in the expansion. By TOC though the ilvls has creeped high enough for everyone to go through it AoEing everything.

The three ICC 5-mans also needed some CC when they came out. Like on the two vykrul mob packs past the gnome+zombie boss.

ICC was better than Ulduar.

They were all easy as fuck even when the expansion first came out.

TBC ruined pvp and lore

k now you're just bullshitting. If your tank didn't know how to pull or set up CCs, you couldn't even get past the first area of AK with all those nerubian mob packs and patrols.

So in conclusion all WoW expansions are shit, as well as vanilla, because everyone can agree it was largely boring and inaccessible. WoW is just shit.

Black temple was the best raid

>there are players out there that weren't even born when WoW was released

Pretty boring visually.

It felt amazing the first time I went there, specially when I entered the antechamber and listened to that song

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>inacsssible
Casual trash opinion discarded

I have nothing to apologize for, i am well aware jeff knows what he's doing and talking about when it comes to MMOs, he's a good MMO dev. He just has no fucking clue how shooters or overwatch works at all.

It's up there with ToT

Go on and tell me how you've totally raided Naxxramas.

Didn't think so, you never played SWP apart from when you were 110. So eat a niggerdick kid

this made me feel

>ICC
>good
Literally the only good fights were Putress Sindragosa and Lich King. Then we were stuck on that raid tier for an entire year. I literally thought that WoW couldn't reach a lower point than 3.3 until 4.1 happened

wow shouldve ended with ulduar destroying the planet zzzzz

Remember when varian stood his ground instead of being a bitch, and for a good reason? Kind of weird that redditors and normies all call jaina a crazy bitch now even though she also has a very valid reason to stand her ground.

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Wrath was garbage in nearly every way

I miss old WoW with no LFG, LFR and other cross-server shit. And I don't want to play on private servers. Fuck.

>icc over throne of thunder

>There are players who are younger than my warlock from vanilla

Its funny when some 12/13-year-old (14 next year) starts shitposting on party chat and I can say that even my WoW character has more experience than him

What valid reasons? Her only reason is still fucking Theramore being destroyed under Garrosh's rule and Horde overthrew Garrosh together with Alliance. That's like denouncing modern day Italy, because Mussolini was on Hitler's side.

Remember when everyone saw the datamined celestial flying mount and assumed it would be an Algalon drop?
Then it was revealed to be in the brand new cash shop instead. You know those shitheads took it from the dungeon and shoved it into the shop.

I had fun kissing my friends on Blood Queen

Yep, that was beginning of the end along with LFG. New WoW still has rare great moments, but some magic was lost.

I wish Blizzard implemented that idea of pristine servers. Or some sort of raid tournament ones.

Theramore was only her breaking point not the entire reason she hates the horde.
Since she was a child her father told her orcs are savage animals and not to trust them, jaina refused to accept this because she had higher hopes for them. She felt so strongly that orcs are capable of more than just destruction that she betrayed her own father and partly to blame for his death. She made friends with thrall, one of the few good orcs to have lived, and tried to help them and alliance get on good relations. Varian, her king and friend, was kidnapped by horde and forced to fight as a gladiator for his life for ages which left anduin with no parents, so jaina and bolvar had to look after him and help raise him. Bolvar was essentially killed at the wrathgate thanks to the forsaken which sylvanas gave free reign to create the chemical and experiment on people with it. Thrall then decided to fuck off for no real reason at all, abandoning jaina and even worse abandoning the faction he had stitched together when he was one of the only people who was trying to keep them in check from chimping out. Garrosh immediately became a tyrant upon being promoted to warchief and let orcs chimp out. He then bombed theramore her home and upon discovering pandaria his first order was to kill any inhabitants they find and take the land for themselves. Then a couple of kirin tor bloodelves betrayed the kirin tor.

What reason DOESN'T she have? It's surprising it took this amount of bullshit for her to realize her father was right all along.

>Mythic Ulduar
>Heroic Ulduar

Man, it was just called hardmode. There was 1 difficulty and you triggered hard mode by doing different mechanics in each fight.

He is probably the same retard who said SwP was a great raid, he is also probably 15 years old and has a Hunter called LegolasXHunter

icc was fucking trash

bullshit
you could breeze through wrath heroics and aoe down packs without paying attention to anything right from the beginning

in the beginning people still used CC because thats the way they had been doing dungeons for 4 years, but most quickly realized that its a waste of time because everything was so fucking easy and undertuned
>tanks can effortlessly spam their aoe abilities and hold threat from entire packs
>tanks dont take meaningful damage even when aggroing full packs at once
>healers can spam the fuck out of whatever spell they want and never go out of mana
>dps can mindlessly spam aoe without worrying about aggro at all, and packs will die within 10 seconds

legion babby here tell me about the old raids papa

Sure, but I can only tell it to you one sentence per week.

kek

for me its a tie between ulduar and Karazhan. Kara was max comfy, playing friday night withmy guild, eating pizza. Such a fun and varied instance. Ulduar wasnt as comfy but i think the fights were better.

There's no way you played a healer when everybody first dinged 80 if you think healers weren't taxed for mana, or you didn't notice shit like the poison snakes at the very start of Gundrak raping everyone despite your best efforts to cleanse and heal.

Later on it become silly when shit like that crypt fiend boss in ahn'kiraj wouldn't even stay surfaced for more than a millisecond before the next phase started, so it felt like you didn't even need to be there.

Vanilla was the peak.

>ICC
>Good
Fucking SoO is better. Only thing ICC has going for it is Arthas and memes.

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this video is so nostalgic, algalon's speech is undoubtedly the best piece of writing and VA in wow to this day

Ulduar is the best multiplayer pve experience in the history of gaming.
Shame about the LFR and blizzard diverting their mmo talent pool into other games.

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>Algalon's speech
>The best
Bro do you even CITIZENS OF DALARAN! RAISE YOUR EYES TO THE SKIES AMD OBSERVE! TODAY OUR WORLD'S DESTRUCTION HAS BEEN AVERTED IN DEFIANCE OF OUR VERY MAKERS. ALGALON THE OBSERVER, HERALD OF THE TITANS, HAS BEEN DEFEATED BY OUR COMRADES IN THE DEPTHS OF THE TITAN CITY OF ULDUAR. ALGALON WAS SENT HERE TO JUDGE THE FATE OF OUR WORLD. HE FOUND A PLANET THAT HAD DEVIATRD FROM THE TITANS' BLUEPRINTS. A PLANET WHERE NOT EVERYTHING HAD GONE ACCORDING TO PLAN. COLD LOGIC DEEMED OUR WORLD NOT WORTH SAVING. COLD LOGIC, HOWEVER, DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR THE POWER OF FREE WILL. IT'S UP TO EACH OF US TO PROVE THIS IS A WORLD WORTH SAVING. THAT OUR LIVES... ARE LIVES WORTH LIVING.

I'm a mage and I miss having to sheep stuff.

t. wrathbabby