Finally moving to PC Gaming this Christmas and want to make sure I'm making a good purchase. Are these specs enough to enjoy most current games? I'm not really a graphics fag so all I want is playing games without lag.
>i5 either ryzen or i7 >1050ti 1060 is the minimum
Xavier Howard
Jst got into it three months ago, havent played many games yet but that is only because my job hasnt started up
Connor Johnson
this, that 1TB will fill up faster than you think too
Christian Allen
This is a fuckawful pre-built, isn't it? You can't find parts this bad otherwise
Elijah Cook
Really? a friend computer has all of that except a I7 instead of I5 and it works well
Henry Taylor
Yea it looks good enough. If you can afford it get a ssd aswell for quick startups and minimal load times in your games. Maybe dump that dvd drive if you need to adjust the budget.
James Gutierrez
what prebuilt shithole are you buying from?
Joseph Jones
Is it really that bad?
Noah Campbell
>no SSD
Kayden Myers
Prebuilt PC's are just looked down upon on Sup Forums
Noah Gonzalez
>STABILIZER FORZA 100VA what the heck is this?
Ethan Sanders
Yes now post your budget
William Adams
1500$
Jacob Richardson
processor is bad. it will do everything you want, but chances are you're not going to get it at a price point where it would be worth it. motherboard has to go by extension.
memory is fine, make sure you have enough memory slots to expand in the future though. some boards only have 2 slots so you'd want 1 stick of 8gb in that case.
hdd is fine
you dont need a dvd drive
1050ti 4gb is a stupid buy. 1050ti 2gb or 1060 3gb. i'd opt for the 1060.
case is up to you, but phanteks p400 is /fa/ as fuck
get something like an evga 500b, you want 80+ certification on the power supply. generally means higher quality parts and is running more efficiently, don't skimp on the power supply.
monitor is up to you.
kb+m is up to you
if you want to spend less than $250 on CPU and mobo get a ryzen 5 1500x and b350 motherboard from gigabyte or msi. ryzen 5 1600 is a great step up but goes over $250.
the coffee lake intel cpus are a hell of a deal but you can't get cheap motherboards with them until 2018. you have no need to spend more on your cpu than your graphics card ever though. so if you want to go intel i'd say wait, but right now ryzen is best value (although not best performance). maybe an i5 7500 and h270 or whatever the fuck their budget sockets are called would work but you would just be spending the same amount of money to have noticeably less performance than chips which are only limited by motherboard.
Jeremiah Bailey
Are there any decent prebuilt towers that'll play all the modern vidya that are decently priced? Maybe something I can upgrade down the road? I mostly play old DOS games anyways, but there a few things coming out I wish I could play. My old ideapad is finally nearing death and I want to get something decent this time.
Jace Diaz
Yeah i'll get a I7 instead of I5 I'll just have 1 or 2 games installed so i doubt it will be a problem Those are the parts im getting to make a PC Oks
Andrew Peterson
why a prebuilt you will always pay more for less
Isaiah Williams
dont get a fucking i7. that guy's a bitch. an i7 will get bottlenecked hard as fuck by a lower cost video card. there's no good reason to buy an i7 unless you're pairing it with AT LEAST a 1080. the graphics card will be running at the limit and the i7 won't be working as hard as it can be. if you have budget for an i7 get a 1070 instead. NEVER EVER SPEND MORE ON YOUR CPU THAN YOUR GRAPHICS CARD EVER.
you might be surprised. pic related will run everything for a somewhat modest price and comes with kb+m and wangblows
Jackson Ross
>i5 Only if it's an 8400 or 8600K. If you want to cheap out, get B350 motherboard and Ryzen 5.
>8Gb RAM Don't be a faggot, 16Gb is better. It's twice as better.
>DVD drive What year is it?
>1050Ti Honestly fine, it's a cheap card with okay performance.
>No SSD The fuck, breh?
Josiah Young
Ok so how is my build? Getting a 1TB SSD in a few weeks
Luke Brown
i5-7400 is kinda of shittu, either get an 8600 or a ryzen 1600 as the basemark
580 4GB as well, should be 8GB but I imagine that's an extra $100-200
Logan Thompson
> an i7 will get bottlenecked hard as fuck by a lower cost video card
That's not how it works, champ.
A G5460 will bottleneck a 1080, because the CPU will hit 99%/100% utilization and cause you to lose a lot of performance.
However an i7 paired with a 1050Ti would only be a GPU bottleneck. The GPU should always be the bottleneck.
Charles Evans
>NEVER EVER SPEND MORE ON YOUR CPU THAN YOUR GRAPHICS CARD EVER.
>being this literally retarded >not buying a better CPU that will last you years longer and spending a median amount on the GPU that you can upgrade to a much better one of 2~ years down the road for another $2-300
And this is completely ignoring any thought of maybe wanting to do more than one thing at any one time while on your computer, or the massive benefits that dx12 will be bringing to higher end CPU's.
Noah Bailey
Better than the majority of PCs browsing Sup Forums.
Get some faster RAM because 2133mhz doesn't belong in a system running an i7 and 1080, an SSD for a boot drive, and consider a higher refresh monitor.
Dominic White
Ok so i should get a
>INTEL CORE I7 6700K
>RAM 16GB Is there any specific one i have to get?
Colton Jones
Will the monitor and RAM actually make a difference?
Daniel Wright
unless he's playing at 1440p or 144hz an i5 7400 and 580 4gb will be good enough, and if he turns the settings down a notch or two he will be 1080p 60fps locked for years to come and really won't notice a visual hit. i think it's a tremendous deal for $700. if he wants 1440p, 4k, or high refresh rate monitors then an i5 8600k is absolutely what i would recommend but that's like $200 over a ryzen 5 1500x once you count in the more expensive cpu, mobo, and cooler for overclocking it. if OP's budget is $1500 then he needs to start the build over from scratch.
you're just flat out wrong here man. you want no bottlenecks, and games these days demand way more gpu than cpu. going from an i5 with a 1060 to an i5 with a 1070 will net you a better performance gain than going to an i7 with a 1060 in every game except maybe aots or other war sim games.
tell that to the people with an i5 2500k. they replaced their 670's long before their 2500k's because games benefit more from a better graphics card than a better cpu nine times out of ten. you can still get away with 1080p 60fps gaming with a 2500k. things might be finally starting to change a little on cpu but really i can't see an i5 7400 being too little for 60fps within the next 5 years. 144hz is a completely different story though.
6700k is an old part and a bad buy, if you're buying an i7 go 8700k or go home, and pair that with like a masterliquid 240 or corsair h100i cooler and a decent z370 motherboard. 16gb of ram is what you should be getting if you buy an i7.
Oliver Gutierrez
Fuck man, hold on. I'll throw some shit together in pc partpicker
Justin Martin
>1060 is the minimum
I think a 1060 is only the minimum in the long run, the 1050i is a lot cheaper and so far mine has been running current games like a charme.
Liam Murphy
How will I do with current games?
Jacob Clark
Make sure to bookmark change.org
Kevin Cooper
Don't listen to then, a 1050i is fine and CPUs are overrated, with an decent graphic card, even a i5 can do the trick.
If I had to change something, it would be the RAM, nowadays, a 16G would be an more confortable amound.
Adam Diaz
your pc is gonna be fucking great for years to come. don't even think about adjusting that. way better than most Sup Forums pcs. if you're at 1080p 60fps or even 1440p 60fps, maybe even fucking 4k 60fps if you knock the settings to medium, you're golden.
>180hz monitor >i5 8400 that clockspeed is gonna hurt.
Adrian Howard
I have a very similar set up I would probably recommend getting a 3GB 1060 over the 4GB 1050, But really looks fine.
Don't fall for those telling you that you need anything higher than a 1060 The 1050 ti should hit 60fps 1080p for another 2~ years.
Parker Gray
Damn... Americans can get parts really cheap
Lucas Wood
The 8400 outperforms previous gen i7's. Besides, it's 144hz standard and 180 if you bother to overclock it.
Ayden Walker
>why a prebuilt >you will always pay more for less Because I know it will work and I don't have to order a bunch of separate parts. If there was a store near me where I could just drive to it and get exactly what I need then fuck yeah I'd build a PC, but there's not so I'd rather just order a single package and upgrade things as needed.
Andrew Hill
Honestly a 1080 is pretty overkill for 1080p gaming.
Charles Wright
I straight up build my computer on the carpet. This includes me installing the CPU and motherboard. You are a fucking spaz if you are that worried about shit not working.
Julian Sanders
>Are there any decent prebuilt towers that'll play all the modern vidya that are decently priced? Yes.
But they all have shit power supplies so don't bother.
Wyatt Baker
Ok thanks
Jackson James
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Joseph Rodriguez
>tell that to the people with an i5 2500k The ones that don't do anything on a computer but play video games, and only video games at any specific time? Because they're surely feeling it pretty hard if they try and multi-task at all. And people who got a 2700k instead are probably feeling less inclined to upgrade than those with a 2500k.
>1080p 60fps Nigga I could do that shit on my secondary machine with a 1090t.
With the way threading is going and how the current GPU market is stagnating to shit it's just going to be much, much better in the long run to spend $300 on an i7 and $250~ on a 1060 than it is to spend $240~ on an i5 and $400+ on a GPU.
Chase Diaz
Is there a big difference between the i7-6700k, i7-7700k and the i7-8700k?
Ayden Price
Don't listen to him CPU's determine minimum frame rates, which is important for smoother overall performance and gameplay.
Ryzen 5 are better value than older i5's, however the CoffeeLake 8000 series i5 have more cores and better performance.
Basically, get any CPU as long as it's either a Ryzen 1600 or i5 8400 or better,
Grayson Morgan
A few frames, nothing massive.
Wyatt Russell
6700K and 7700K are basically the same, the 7700K just has a 200MHz clock speed advantage. The 8700K has a lower base clock speed but has 6 cores instead of 4 so the difference between the 8700K and 7700K is much larger than the difference between the 7700K and 6700K.
I have a 6700K and a 1080Ti, the only game I've ever seen CPU issues with is Watch Dogs 2, and it's a piece of shit.
Jaxson Taylor
well shit, im shocked. you win. if only it could be paired with a cheaper motherboard.
he asked for a gaming computer, didnt say anything about streaming or video editing or other forms of productivity. and gpu reigns king in performance upgrades. however i did rethink it a little and i agree with you. i started my comp on a a10-5800k poorfag station for $400 back in 2013, which did well with gpu upgrades, but when i went to a ryzen 5 1600 earlier this summer it costed $450 to overhaul. if i'd have tried an i5 2500 or something like that i'd be spending $450 on a 1070 instead. but i still don't think an i7 is necessary. an i5 8400 or ryzen 5 1600 is a great backbone to a pc today.
Jeremiah White
Go Big or go home. Get an I7 that overclocks to 4.3ghz or more. GTX 1080ti is the best card on the market right now. Get a 1tb ssd, none of this HDD antiquated bullshit. You want to be the first one to load into servers, dont you?
Keyboard:corsair K70, thank me later Mouse, something by razer or logitech, but I have the lenovo gaming mouse, because I like em big. get a steelseries qck mouse pad Monitor should be anything by BenQ. They make quality products. Go with high frame rate over high resolution, in the short term you will get more use out of extra frames as opposed to extra pixels.
Andrew Ward
>Basically, get any CPU as long as it's either a Ryzen 1600 or i5 8400 or better, I'll go for a I5 8400 or a I7 8700K depending on the price here
Ethan White
>I straight up build my computer on the carpet. This includes me installing the CPU and motherboard. Maybe because I don't live in my parent's basement and I don't even have 5 fucking minutes to sit down and build something because I'm always on-call, let alone wait around for the commie us postal service to deliver a bunch of packages god knows when which I will be required to sign for because my neighborhood is infested with package thieving niggers, assuming they can even deliver the packages without smashing them to bits. Maybe I just want to order a singular package that I know I will get on a very specific day when I know I can be around. I mean holy fuck, is it so wrong to get something cheap to start with and upgrade it later? What even is this meme?
Blake Clark
keep in mind if you go for an i7 8700k you have to buy a cooler with it. and the cooler will be anywhere from $35 to $120 in the US depending on how much performance you want out of your i7. also consider the i5 8600k which is a higher clocked and overclockable variant to the 8400, it also needs it's own cooling though, but you can get away with like a $60 cooler on that.
Carter Rogers
The high fps/hz only applies to shooters or similar games. Go with resolution if you like rpgs and the like.
William Scott
>Because I know it will work No, you don't >If there was a store near me where I could just drive to it and get exactly what I need then fuck yeah I'd build a PC It's called Microcenter \>is it so wrong to get something cheap to start with and upgrade it later Yes, because you're going to end up with some piece of shit OEM that you regret in the long run. Just buy a fucking Xbox, it sounds like it's more your speed.
Colton Rivera
seriously, get ryzen. it's much cheaper and easier to upgrade. spend the money you save on a graphics card.
Brody Sanders
Back to Sup Forums
Nolan Robinson
>you're just flat out wrong here man. you want no bottlenecks, and games these days demand way more gpu than cpu. going from an i5 with a 1060 to an i5 with a 1070 will net you a better performance gain than going to an i7 with a 1060 in every game except maybe aots or other war sim games.
The GPU should always be a bottleneck in a system, you fucking cunt. Even a 1080Ti is a bottleneck on an 8700K.
That's how they fucking work. You play a game at max settings and the GPU will hit 99% utilization. That's how they fucking work. Your min and max FPS are then determined by the CPU. Shit CPU? Shit frames, no matter how good the GPU is.
Christopher Nguyen
>CPU is more expensive than GPU Fix that right now OP.
Nolan Cruz
it's a valid argument you fucking cucktel shill
Isaac Flores
New i3s are just as good or better than old i5s
Aiden Carter
>It's called Microcenter Wow, a whole 25 stores in existence. I'm sure the odds are pretty good that there's one within driving distance.
Wyatt Nelson
Only if you’re poor. Intel and threadripper are the only two choices.
Adam White
well its a good fucking thing op didnt talk about 1080ti's and 8700k's. the price bracket for op post is like $650-750 USD. In that price bracket you get way more for your money with a better GPU than a CPU. Unless you intend to upgrade your graphics card in a few weeks you're fucked. if op wants to build a pc for $700 that will last him as long as it can without upgrading then gpu is the way to go.
Nicholas Smith
>moving to pc gaming >christmas
holy shit this is an 18+ website
Samuel Brown
>8gb >1050TI
??
Zachary Walker
obviously if OP is considering a 1050ti he's not rich
Dylan Wright
I see shit like this and its no wonder that the only people still playing vidya on PC are spoiled 14 year olds.
Jace Davis
Cybah muhndayyyy Boiiiiiiiiiii
Ryan Green
This
Alexander Ramirez
Well maybe he should invest his money into not being a pleb instead
>4real tho ryzen is fine
Eli Gomez
>I5 6400 8400 IS NECESSARY >MSI INTEL B150M THAT'S AN AMD MOTHERBOARD YOU DUMB FAGGOT >DVD BLU RAY DRIVES COST THE SAME AND CAN PLAY MOVIES THAT DON'T LOOK LIKE GARBAGE >CASE CERTIFICATE ANTRYX XTREME 450W DO NOT I REPEAT DO NOT GET A POWER SUPPLY BUILT INTO A CASE IT WILL BLOW UP AND KILL YOU
EVERYTHING ELSE IS OK FOR POORFAG TIER HAVE FUN user
>Implying this poorfag is gonna be able to afford a real psu Lmao he probably can't even afford one.
Charles Watson
ok so I might also be getting a gaming pc soon so to mirror OP, let me know if this is fine because I know next to nothing about specs
Asus Prime Z370-P Intel i7 8700 16GB HyperX® FURY™ DDR4- 2666 (2x8GB) GTX 1070 8GB 750W EVGA® SuperNOVA B3 80 Plus Bronze Certified Fully Modular PSU 2TB Seagate® Barracuda™ 7200rpm 64MB Cache SATA 6G
Connor Walker
Get two 1 tb drives, they have less rate of failure, if you can rather than a single 1 tb drive.
Hunter Smith
What's the best budget upgrade from an i5 2500k lads? My motherboard is on the blink so if I'm changing that I might as well update a bit, but I don't have unlimited funds unfortunately.
