Changes to WoW in Classic

>class balancing
Blizzard's answer to class balance recently has been to homogenize the shit out of every spec. Meaning that I don't trust Blizzard to balance shit anymore.

The downside with this is of course that half the specs in vanilla were completely god damn useless, to the point where they only existed to give the specs that mattered a few extra percent.

The reality that will probably hit most people the hardest is that their favorite class/spec combo just isn't worth using anymore.

>quality of life improvements
I'm talking bag size, off-specs, transmogs, summoning stones... that kinda' thing. Stuff that doesn't really influence gameplay too heavily, but makes for a less tedious experience.

I'd almost recommend they don't add any of these because the reality of situation is that it's such a slippery slope. What I define as quality of life, might be totally different from what the normalfag, who thinks tokens are a neat quality of life improvement, are.

And if they add anything they're going to piss of the nostalgiafags and the ones who didn't get THEIR definition of quality of life improvements.

>progression
At the end of the day everything will eventually get boring if done enough. And when the nostalgia wheres thin, it'll happen even faster. The reality of the situation is that these vanilla servers will HAVE to advance as I see it.

The question is how, and when should they advance.

Personally I'd radically tone down the speed of expansions, and try to pace content better (in terms of WHEN patches come out) if they chose to go with TBC, WOTLK, Cata and so on and so on.

There is of course the alternative, of using WoW Classic as a new starting point. A lot of people agree that Retail WoW has gotten bloated and stale, and this might be their chance to (literally) go back to their roots and try to "do it right this time".

They could either tell a brand new story with new focuses and new content.

What does Sup Forums think Blizzard should/will change?

>should
Very little.

>will
A fucking lot.

Is WoW actually fun to get involved in? I was looking for a game to get totally lost in. WoW seemed to fit that bill because everyone says how it ruined their lives etc. But when I tried it it was just go there and pick up 3 widgets, go there and get 4 carrots, got there and kill 6 golems, etc. Is this the whole game? I uninstalled after an hour.

>I uninstalled after an hour.
If you want a good life-ruining experience, WoW is the way to go. But you're not going to get that in an hour.

And as all quests do, WoW's starts in the small. Kill bandits, wake sleeping orcs, kill the local wildlife. That kinda' thing.

Vanilla WoW is about starting small and then building up, while in current-day retail WoW you are essentially a God among men who solo Deathwing in the afternoon and have tea with the Lich King in the evening.

Bottom line, if you want to play vanilla WoW you have to be patient. Very patient.

So it's classic WoW, but it's not classic WoW?

If they're just going to rebalance classes, change specs, and make "quality of life improvements" then what is the that game anymore? Is it still classic WoW we all played in 2005? Or is this going to feel like Modern Wow gameplay just stripped of all it's content?

So what do? Wait for classic to come out in ~2 years or can I dive in now?

Ideally, it's be a balance. Classic WoW's pace and world with small obvious improvements from Live would be nice IMO.

They aren't doing any of that. For better or worse they want it to just be a snapshot of 2005 WoW. They even say they expect it to just die off after a while and maintain a small but dedicated community with the odd tourist now and then.

Just Vanilla wow with transmog and aoe loot and im happy

BUT WHAT IF they add all the new classes

Wait for Classic WoW (or WoW Classic, or whatever they call it). You'll have plenty of life to ruin later, and I doubt it'll take as much as 2 years. 6 months tops.

Don't play retail WoW. Going back to classic will be hard after that because you'll be too used to cushions.

>AoE loot
Might happen.

>transmog
Literally never.

We're all going to get to look like autistic clowns for a while.

What should I play in the meantime while waiting? Black Desert?

They can't add all the new classes for a multitude or reasons:
>the classes have too much mobility compared to the vanilla classes
>the fights in vanilla aren't designed around having access to those classes
>everything except DK doesn't have a "traditional" spec tree so they'd have to make them and balance them
>several spells link monk's flying cloud and DH's double-jump would have to be downright removed
>what the fuck would DH's even use as weapons now that their signatures aren't in the game?

Archeage

A single-player game maybe? I wouldn't delve into one MMO now, knowing that you'lll probably pick up another one in a few months.

how the FUCK can you guys think transmog is a good idea for classic wow? I shouldn't even have to explain it.

Not only that but theres not even a starting zone for them.

I just really love playing DK

>everyone says how it ruined their lives

Because people were shit and didn't know what they're doing.

Classic WoW requires more time to level to 60 but there's not actually a lot to do at 60. You get geared pretty fast and then you're just raid logging once a week.

The only thing that actually required you to no-life it was grinding PvP rank 14.

But I want to go full geek. Can a single player allow me to do that?

What about you fuck off you piece of shit, you can stop your fucking transmog shit, you piece of shit.

Please explain

>But I want to go full geek.

EVE Online. Doesn't get any more geeky and autistic than that.

Updated graphics/models and dual spec are the only things I'm fine with.

Only morons think it's a good idea.

Walking into IF or Org back in vanilla you could easily tell who's the fucking boss and who isn't, just by looking at their gear. And you could tell if they PvP or PvE.

reddit-tier neofagger thread
wow was never good

No but it was fun back when it was new.

Ok thanks. I've already got it installed and will give it another try.

>Wow classic developer team are old school vanilla developers and nostalrius lads

>Retail team is completely different

Shit will be good

I wouldn’t mind guild banks

They need to keep the speed of XP as is imo.

From what I've heard, leveling in vanilla was dreadfully slow and many people quit because of that. It shouldn't take too long to get to the end-game out of the gate.

>Black Desert

YES. And play it with me user.

>wanting to look like a complete clown or completely identical to everyone else raiding

Maybe it mattered to a couple wide-eyed kids entering Org for the first time, but literally nobody gave a shit about "who was the boss" because soon enough there were dozens of people wearing exactly the same tier outfit, big whoop.

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This. I didn't even do most of the top raids because it was too time consuming but just seeing those players decked out in epic gear was awe-inspiring. It made those places seem like a big deal.

Now everyone and their mother can hop into LFR and do it themselves. Really takes the mystique away from it all.

You can unlock Death Knight if you beat Naxx40

So nobody will have a DK, as it should be

Is it fun bb?

>WOWC will kill retail in your lifetime

Best timeline.

They should give us some QoL improvements like the Collection tab and so on, stuff that doesn't affect the gameplay but makes the game more smooth and enjoyable. No quest tracker though, we need that vanilla leveling experience where you actually had to find shit out by yourself. Maybe make Makirk's wife spawn in random places every time just to fuck with people.
The gameplay itself might be done in Diablo 3 fashion, with seasons and account-wide rewards. Also they should double down on the social aspects of vanilla since those are the main (and mostly the only) reason why people have fond memories of vanilla WoW.
Also they should let us pick character models and animations like in WoD (some people would want to have a full vanilla experience while others prefer HD models for obvious reasons).

>WAAAAHH I WANT TO LOOK LIKE AN EDGELORD
>WAAAAAAHH WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO PAY MY DUES LOOKING LIKE A CLOWN? LET ME LOOK COOL NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

It's faggots like you that demand instant gratification that ruined WoW in the first place.
YOU are the reason contemporary WoW is shit, and YOU are the reason Blizzard got away with telling us "you think you do, but you don't" for years.
Kindly keep your retarded ass and your terrible fucking opinions away from Classic, thanks.

> Blizzard's answer to class balance recently has been to homogenize the shit out of every spec.
But every spec has its unique mechanic and resource now aside from like mage specs now, whereas all caster specs in Vanilla were mana and ranged missile focused aside from Affli?