Tell me how Blizzard will somehow manage to fuck this up.
Tell me how Blizzard will somehow manage to fuck this up
well for one there's no way they're gonna port the old honor system
Just like in retail, there won't be any pvp servers anymore. Stranglethorn will lose all its charm.
>transmogrification
They already did
simple, it won't be 1:1 and thus the entire point of releasing a legacy version is lost
2004 would have sucked if the servers never crashed
Classic development team is independent from retail with retired vanilla developer as head of the project.
They already confirmed no LFG / LFR, no tokens etc.
The only thing they are discussing is which patch content to use etc.
Whether UBRS should be 5 man or 10 man
Things like that
Shit balancing
No arena
No rbg
No dual spec
No resilience gear
Fucking casual
one way to fuck it up is the same subscription price as the current one
>all the casualization of current WoW but with all the broken quests and grinding of vanilla
lel
>Horde paladins and alliance shamans
>10man and 25man raids
>All specs viable
>Item nerfs (ironfoe and HoJ)
>PvE only servers
>nu-models
>cash shop
>nerf 1-60 grind
>>Horde paladins and alliance shamans
This is the only change I want.
no TBC content
>transmog
>fucking up nighttime
>cross realm PvE
They're going to start it as identical to the legacy version as they possibly can, but then introduce a cash shop with pets as a test and if people let that shit fly, everything will come crashing down.
>its vanilla but with dungeon finder, heirlooms, overwatch models + 15$ sub
They won't fuck up the porting, because they literally hired everyone worth their shit in private legacy servers under the table.
What they will fuck up on is not having enough servers and seeing how dramatically this will fuck with their current expansion content that it won't be worth their time to ever make shit again. Instead they'll pump out BC and Wrath privates and dump current xpac servers into legacy. If they are smart.
cross-realm. Thats all it takes.
If this shit is cross-realm its not vanilla wow.
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this
>elysium going strong
>boom headshot
>LH drama ensues
>Blizz announces classic
the timing is too good
The playerbase will fuck it up, either by complaining and demanding things be made easier or Blizzard will cuck it from the start.
Degenerate.
>Zul aman
>Karazan
>Caverns of time
>lvl 60 raids
> Mount hyjal made for vanilla
A man can dream
Would people rage at implementations like this?
World of Warcraft is going to kill me. Nearly 15 years of my life wasted playing it on and off, and now the cycle is beginning again.
I honestly want a player count much higher than vanilla.
If blizz stick to 100% to vanilla, it wouldn't be that fun, and yet i dont trust them to make the right decisions if they stray from pure vanilla
It will feature nu-wow features:
>Battle.net store/microtransactions
>nu-wow models
>Content probably nerfed
It won't be Blizzard that fucks it up, it'll be the community, I want you guys to mark my fucking words, this is what's going to happen
>Classic servers released
>First day the forums are flooded
>"It's too hard!"
>"Why does this spec suck?"
>"The grind is too long!"
>"Rogues are OP!"
>"Why don't paladins have a taunt?!"
>"Give us mounts at lower levels!"
>"PVP is unbalanced!"
>"Buff ret paladins!"
>"Give us LFG!"
>"Give us transmog!"
>"Remove attunements!"
>"Remove undead racial!"
>"Give Alliance shamans and Horde paladins!"
>"Instances are too hard!"
>"Instances take too long to beat!"
>"Let us queue for BGs anywhere!"
>"Fix the useless talents!"
And you know what's going to happen? Blizzard is going to listen to them, because it's what they do, they listen to their fans and give in to their crying and whining because they're scared to lose subs, THIS is why we got LFR, THIS is why we got flying in all zones, THIS is why we got nearly a full BOA set that makes leveling a fucking joke, THIS is why classes are needlessly buffed and nerfed, because the community never stops fucking crying.
>World of Roguecraft
Oh fuck, nostalgia.
They won't listen to the whiners. After all people have been whining for years that pvp happens on pvp serv-
oh.
Anyone who is even remotely interested in WoW now are most likely veterans.
Especially a classic server, the only problem is of course how content is handled.
Will they just use 1.11 or go from 1.0 and progress to Naxx
kill yourself
put me in the screencap for when this happens please cmf
>Blizzard is going to listen to them, because it's what they do, they listen to their fans
>they listen to their fans
Literally the ONLY reason they're doing this, after YEARS of saying they never would, is because WoW is losing subscribers every month, and they've seen how many people play on private servers.
this post made me physically angry, even though I know they would almost surely not do this it isn't even entirely out of the question
If I ever play on classic servers, the only thing I will do is play an undead rogue and gank.
They're gonna add races.
I'm gonna take my hunter to the barn roof watching the entrance to DM, and then I'm going to spend hours on end killing the defias messenger at the very end of his escort path with my pet
>They listen to the fans
No fucking shit, they don't want to lose money, if people cried hard enough about literally anything they would do it, it's business, they're not your friend.
if you dont see this loading screen itsd ufcketd
They don't need to do anything, vanilla WoW is already garbage as is.
>all specs viable
why is that bad lmao? Literally every shaman/pallly/druid was pissed to learn what endgame was.
>druid will never shapeshift ever again
>shaman don't even use elements
>pally never uses the might of light
You're a complete fucking retard. I don't know why doomsayers dislike the new system. There will be pvp in Stranglethorn, because all you have to do is toggle PvP on in your major city, and your character will be transported to the pvp version of the world.
It's not like you'll walk into StV with PvP toggled on and meet people with it toggled off. You'll walk into StV and be with every single person who has toggled it on.
Retard.
>they don't want to lose money
Yes, that's why Blizz made the design choices that led to hemorrhaging subs, they don't want to lose money. It's all about the money because they're a business. There's nothing you have to think about besides following the money.
fucking idiot
Since it will use a modern wow build the nighttime is going to be fucked no doubts about it. They already said no cross realm.
And look at the business they've lost over the years because they listened to the most autistic whiners. I'm cautious as fuck about legacy servers but man they shouldn't fuck it up after everyone's been asking for vanilla as it was
2/10
>sharding/cross realm in vanilla
Without original nighttime I'll be more than disapointed.
If you keep your PvP tag toggled on at all times, it's like you're on a PvP server, because you will literally only ever encounter people who want to be on a PvP server.
Nothing changes.
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if you don't hear this upon loading in, the game is fucked
Listen to the idiots on their forums and making any changes to appease them. I hope they have a team like the classic team working on it, they don't even listen to the official forums and go off site for feedback.
You don't know what Vanilla means.
I don't want to share a server
with carebear fags like yourself
They'll probably ask players for feedback kinda like old school runescape so good luck with that
Don't do it user, my dad wasted his life and family on WOW and only stopped after he had a brain infarct and a heart attack.
>over 10 million people played vanilla and they all enjoyed it, despite the vast majority never even reaching level 60
you're a tourist.
You won't be sharing a server with carebear flags. Those people who don't PvP won't exist in the PvP areas.
Who /angwe/ here?
Hitting up Menethil Harbour for some delicious tears
But you won't ever see the carebears except in major cities maybe.
Well, it's vanilla, it sucks by design
They'll get their feedback anywhere but the official forums if it's the same team that did the StarCraft remaster and Warcraft III updates
Oldfag here, warcraft 2 was one of my favorite games when I was younger.
99% of WoW players never even knew what warcraft was. World of warcraft was always fucking retarded.
I just thought I'd finally let you all know how much value it has so maybe you'll never talk about it again? Maybe?
shit graphics, homosexual animations, terrible art design that was basically just War3, just an overall shit experience. I'm sorry you spent however long it's been, 10 years or whatever, playing this shit. It's gay, it's always been gay, it will never not be gay.
Rather than a classic wow I kinda want a new expansion with everything overtuned and no crossrealm. It makes me sad that pristine realms are no longer a possibility.
>All specs viable
Justify purposely making over half of the specs in the game unplayable garbage. Class balance is still a joke on live, but it’s come a long way and you can at least play every spec without getting laughed out of a group.
Every classic realm is PvE
>doesn't know what he's talking about
>spouts shit as if he was an expert
you have to go back.
i agree i was lookign forward to pristine.
ok virgin
>because they're scared to lose subs
Isn't it ironic that this is the reason they lost so many subs?
protip: all specs SHOULD be tuned to be potentially viable
If the Vanilla server is a success Blizzard is planning on developing original content for it once the Vanilla content has been exhausted.
You heard it here first folks!
>Justify purposely making over half of the specs in the game unplayable garbage.
birds fly, grass grows, warriors tank, priests heal, and brother,I SAP SHIT
>blizzard
>tune
LOL my man, good one
This
Because that's how it was in vanilla?
There is literally no point in releasing a vanilla server then removing all the things that make vanilla vanilla?
That's how you kill the server because it will pissoff nostfags and retail fags alike.
>PvP
>Toggle
I'd never pick this up for a single minute if PvP server PvP was about toggling.
>Class balance
Blizzard would just homogenize the classes if they attempted to do any kind of balance, people would rather have specs be garbage as long as roles and niches actually exist. If you have any faith in Blizzard not fucking that up even more you're a fucking retard.
reminder that people back in vanilla were completely retarded, and it wasn't until the past 5 years, that spreadsheet autist actually figured out the best specs and itemization possible
eurogamer.net
TLDR;
>Release date is at least over a year away
>Nostalrius team gave them data to work with
>They have a huge team working on it
>None of which are people from private servers
>They're going to keep everything completely vanilla
>They can't change things even if they wanted to with how the new servers are going to work
>They're unsure how payment for it will work or if it will even cost money to play
>They admit to just legit throwing out all the old stuff needed for vanilla servers
>As well as never keeping backups to anything and just replacing it all as expansions moved on
It's looking decent.
I actually think that would be a good idea, as Vanilla WoW wasn't really balanced that well, to be honest. The only people who want the balance to stay the same in Vanilla are the people who play to exploit it, which is not how Vanilla was.
I also think, as painful as it sounds, that horde paladins and alliance shamans would be good. Horde love to bitch about Alliance favoritism and vice versa, though I don't know what Vanilla race would make good paladins. Undead maybe.
I put those two in there for conversation/trolling. The rest of the options I think would be trash.
Play retail then.
>I want my vanilla icecream with shit smeared in it please, Its a "Quality of life" improvement!
I only ever played Warcraft 1 and 2 my man
Knights are GOAT
Fuck ogres
Remove greenskins
How can you not abuse this mechanic in classic?
Just turn on pve when leveling 1-60 then hit world first 60 then turn on pvp and kill all scrubs who forgot to turn on pve mode.
There is no way to do it right:
>If they keep true to classic:
>40man raids that drop 2 items per boss, maybe one for a class your faction can't play
>most Classes have ONE valid spec and the rest are traps that mean nobody groups with you
>Warri: only fury or Prot
>Paladin: only holy
>Hunter: Marksman only
>shaman: only heal
>druid: only heal
>warlock: never played much, think only some weird hybrid spec, also shard bitch
>rogue: only combat
>Mage: only one with diversity. has to go frost on ragnaros, the other two specs depending on raid
>Priest: Basically holy only. Maybe ONE shadow per raid to apply the debuff they bring.
>500 mile graveyard RUNS
>mounts and pets take inventory space and 18 slot bags are the biggest bags in game
>Dungeons are super far away and you actually have to move there and try to find a group on your server while leveling.
If they make it exactly like it was people will be sick of it after a month or two
On the other hand if they change these terrible fucking things people will cry "it's not classic!"
why would they restrict ubrs to 5 or 10 man? the only reason people did it 10 man was because it made a difficult dungeon way easier
Not him but I don't care. I won't play it if it's like that.
Why would I ever toggle myself PvP on in STV if I just wanted to level? It's all about it being a constant flag with no option to pussy out, for better or for worse.
It wont be them that fucks it up, it will be players. Consider that noone wants to communicate in games anymore, and that the actual world itself has all been mapped and has wikis on everything, this will not be a return to how it was because you can never go back to that, the gameplay in vanilla was jank as a fuck, levelling was slow as hell and quest progression took you from one zone to another and then back again, constantly having you running around and not really doing anything, but because the game was the only thing doing what it was doing people put up with it. Im not even saying modern WoW is better, but vanilla was not an amazing thing in hindsight, you were young and it was all new to you to discover, you were a cringey little shit who would use "LOL XD EPIC" unironically in a sentence.
>Reminder that you had to talent to make it so sap didn't de-stealth you
>The only people who want the balance to stay the same in Vanilla are the people who play to exploit it,
Or they don't trust Blizzard to fuck up even more which they most likely will
Most of the scrubs who forgot to turn PvE probably wouldn't mind getting ganked too much, that's what they signed up for after all.
Look at Starcraft Remastered. There you go.
>They admit to just legit throwing out all the old stuff needed for vanilla servers
>As well as never keeping backups to anything and just replacing it all as expansions moved on
top kek
so before nost shut down, blizz was running with the "lol we dont have the original code srry" story. sometime after nost gets shut down/visits Blizz, they change their story to "lol we actually do have the code but you think you do but you don't" story.
Now we're back to they threw it all away?
The only way is to host that on the same servers they have for starcraft:remastered and the other classic games, because they are all laggy as hell
>You'll walk into StV and be with every single person who has toggled it on.
THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE A CHOICE
Will they use the modern engine and animations? Or just copypaste from Nostalrius codebase?
>same old, tired, wrong argument
elysium and nost prove you're a complete retard
If you honestly don't enjoy any of those things the game is clearly not for you.
Just don't play it. Simple.
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not QoL
Literally just bump up the numbers in a few talents and spells of the shit specs to make them playable
how will this ruin your icecream, faggot?
>>They admit to just legit throwing out all the old stuff needed for vanilla servers
>As well as never keeping backups to anything and just replacing it all as expansions moved on
What the actual fuck? There is no way a company can be this incopetent
>constantly having you running around and not really doing anything
I swear to god man:
>alright go to booty bay
>ok now go to ratchet
>ok now go to undercity
>ok now go to org
>ok now back to undercity
>ok thanks now here's the dungeon quest.
Except the choice they get when they are about to choose a realm? Carebears have always been there and they have always had a choice.