Just got done with Wolfenstein II. I'm 95% convinced anyone complaining about the game being "racist towards white people" just watched part of a game movie on YouTube and didn't actually play it.
People bitching about Grace Walker calling you "white boy" - half her character arc is her starting out damaged and racist towards white people before eventually healing and trusting you implicitly later in the game. You're not meant to sympathize with her world-view; an ally character actually chokes her out at one point because of how shit her attitude gets.
Same deal with complaining about Horton and his fucked up views - leaving out the context that he's a literal college campus anti-war communist and B.J. tears him a new asshole for his hypocrisy. The devs are actively roasting SJWs during that scene.
Using game movies on YouTube to gauge the length of the game is idiotic and lets me know you didn't actually play the goddamn game. You must have never watched a game movie before, because if you have you'd know that they always have large swatches of gameplay cut out to trim length and to skip to the story bits. A “game movie” is literally a “too long; didn’t play”. The New Colossus easily has a 7-8 hour campaign on "Bring Em On!" difficulty.
Everyone is coming off like butthurt faggots.
Cameron Bell
>Expecting Sup Forumstards to actually have any idea what they're talking about They're the other side of the SJW coin. It's as simple as that.
Jonathan Green
People don't play vidya these days, user. They just watch LPs and bandwagon the most popular opinion.
Nicholas Cruz
Or maybe people complain that the franchise that used to be just about shooting nazis until there are no more nazis left to shoot got way too political and story-driven?
Cameron Lewis
I admire the person who wrote this all out, thinking it would change any of these retards' minds on the matter.
Anyway, I'll pick it up on sale in a few months, just like with TNO.
Nathan Martinez
you can skip that shit
Blake Evans
Then where were they 3 years ago when that actually happened? Oh right, fucking Reddit.
Luis Sanders
>he hasn’t yet realised Sup Forums is mastering propaganda
Gavin Turner
Nice copy pasta
Also >Caring about SJW and Sup Forums's opinion at all
The only winning move is to ignore it and carry on with your pathetic life
Eli Brooks
>neogaf trying to dictate narrative thats cute run along back to the part where you pretend the gameplay is even on par with the previous iteration and the devs didnt spend 90% of their resources marketing against trump voters and utterly failing in sales
>bethesda in charge of publishing good luck your studio is DOA
Justin Johnson
>I hate Sup Forums >so let me complain about them for the billionth fucking time
Fuck right off you autistic faggot.
Connor Martinez
7-8 hours is still pretty short. Especially when 3 of those hours are cutscenes. The Order: 1886 didn't get a pass for its length. Why should Wolfenstein?
Zachary Martin
They are literally complaining about the fact that you kill nazis, so fuck off
Alexander Ramirez
>pancakes pancakes pancakes
Jackson Jackson
I dunno user, all you do in the game is just shoot nazis until there aren't any nazis left to shoot. The marketing for the game is definitely trying to make waves with recent political shit in America but the game itself doesn't. I do dislike how BJ has less of the charm he had in TNO. His lines and monologues just aren't as impactful or memorable.
Jackson Lee
>The Order: 1886
You make it sound like the length of the game was the only problem it had.
Ethan Green
no, what
Angel Cook
>i cant into critical thinking beyond dictating any negative reception is due to X reason so im gonna lump th em all together and call shitpost! and thus, the neogaffer runs back to his hideaway and pretends he won the argument
Gavin Brown
Your post is 0 gameplay 10 politics.
Lincoln Anderson
>6-8 hours >$10 an hour That sounds like a total rip off
Michael Taylor
Do you not realize the irony of you bitching about a strawman while proceeding to use your own strawman in the next sentence?
Matthew Long
Wolfenstein II has other problems, too.
Eli Nguyen
The narrative is strong, the problem is the gameplay is literally trash
Wyatt Anderson
The new Wolfenstein is actually challenging, and has like 6 difficulty modes. Maybe that's not enough for you to justify $X, I totally get that, but at least it's not a lootbox microtransaction games-as-a-service shitheap. If that's your only worry, just wait until its price gets cut; single player games get huge drops in a matter of months.
Thomas Gomez
The fault is with the marketing team. What they did was stupid no matter your politics. Not to mention the gameplay still is nothing to write home about. I mean literally starting the game in a wheelchair? In a series about traditionally about speed and shooting? Comes off as self righteous.
Brayden Campbell
>No u The post
Oliver Nguyen
Thats about average for any other entertainment you'll find in the real world. I really hate to say this but people who play games are becoming a bit entitled when it comes to cost and game length.
Blake Richardson
Nice projection
Jace Young
>BJ has less of the charm he had in TNO Yes. Half of the time he just blabbers about how he fucking LOVES killing nazis and that it's all good guys we got this, aside from Anya interactions, he's so unbearably bland. Gets his fucking head chopped off, and sown to a new body. >How do you feel BJ, is your memory okay, what do you remember? >Oh dude, I've been killing nazis, it's all good, let's kill some nazis.
Eli Williams
>muh whore shoe
Elijah Russell
>campaign on "Bring Em On!" difficulty.
Why cant you just say the harder difficulty. You sound like such a fuckin shill.
Logan Lewis
We can and have bought more for less numerous times. What makes THIS game so special that warrants the $10/h price ratio?
Angel Flores
>In a series about traditionally about speed and shooting? Does that include RTCW? Because that struck me more as use your head and use your surroundings.
David Myers
The horse shoe theory is real and Sup Forumstards are the right-wing SJWs
Zachary Fisher
I thought the wheelchair shit was pretty neat. I mean, he took a grenade right in the chest a few months prior and was still dying so it made sense. Also drives home the point that this guy is such a killing machine, he can still fuck people up while in a wheelchair. But you're right, it's standard FPS gameplay, nothing about it really stands out at all. Weapons also feel weak as fuck with barely audible shots. Why the fuck didn't we get a double barrel shotgun?
Aiden Turner
You can delete your shit thread now, OP
Camden Evans
What if I told you that you were experiencing a hallucination
Henry Rogers
You just need to wait like a year or something before talking about this game. The marketing department poked the Sup Forums hornet's nest and they decided to wage a war against the game like we haven't seen for several years. It's a great game, but Sup Forums is fucking autistic.
Tyler Rodriguez
You can literally upgrade the shotgun into a rotary triple barrel shotgun that shoots bouncing shrapnel.
Jonathan Sullivan
imagine being so butthurt about a game about killing nazis that you made a meme like this
Thomas Gomez
Wow nice argument. >le enlightened centrist man.png My issue is with the whole concept that a segment like that is in a Wolfenstein game. Even Doom 2016 for all its faults knew you should me moving, exploring, and killing shit at all times. Why does it have to be so narrative driven?
Oliver Morgan
they became the thing they hate
Hudson Perez
What the fuck happend to Sup Forums?
All you guys do is argue about race and women in video games.
Brody Ward
>Sup Forumstards so lazy they can't even be bothered to post their shit strawman pictures You're no different from the SJWs you despise. In fighting against them, you became what you hated.
Blake Barnes
this, also its a poor corridor shooter, but thats just my opinion.
Ayden Miller
>People use steam reviews to review the game >Wow ther so butthurt cuz muh nahtsees dum nahtsees Maybe they just don't like the game
Luke Bailey
>TNO starts >20 minutes in you get "Count to four, inhale. Count to four, exhale" with that rookie kid whatever the fuck his name is and the whole plane scene with Fergus, shitloads of monologues that lets you see behind those cold, blue eyes of a killing machine >TNC has "Caroline give me strength" x20 and just stuff about not being truthful to Anya since he's dying I really hope we get more of this shit later on since I haven't finished the game yet but it's been lackluster so far.
Isaac Turner
>You >You >Sup Forums is one person boogyman Holy shit go the way of Neo Gaf
Charles Phillips
nice bait. This is about video games, not trying to piss in other peoples corn flakes about politics
Jacob Green
I'm not talking about damage values user, I'm talking about presentation. All the guns can be devastating in their own right but they feel like peashooters, shotgun include. The only gun that felt like an actual boomstick was the boomstick you had to shoot in the beginning. Damned shame.
Camden Collins
Why are Sup Forumstards ok with generalizing every race on the planet but themselves?
Brody Kelly
Because this is the reality of the industry now. It wants to proselytize now.
James Wood
I don't mind it since you were still moving, exploring and killing shit even in the wheelchair. The only parts that I felt dragged on were the in-between mission quests on the submarine. I get that they wanted to vary things up a bit but it just feels mundane compared to the blasting in the actual missions. The sub also has pretty confusing design, mostly due to the samey looking corridors.
Jace Jones
Sup Forums is a board of peace, friend. Not a race.
Nathaniel Flores
>Generalizing is ok except when you do it to me Sorry, Sup Forums, you are faggots
Hudson Rogers
yea mr centrist man collective generalisations are what the sjws and right wing sjws do. you shouldn't do that.
or are centrists just middle wing SJWs?
Ayden Sanchez
>Sup Forums playing vidiya but gaming's degenerate, user
Andrew Wilson
Not to mention the first scene with Deathshead where you make the choice. Shit was menacing and terrifying. Engel's scene in TNC felt more cartoonish instead.
Luke Wilson
>In fighting against them, you became what you hated. Nope, I am enjoying my anger you fucking retard. If you don't make fun of the SJWs, you're letting them get away with it. Stay cucked.
Austin Scott
maybe centrists are middle wing alt-righters? we'll never know!
Dominic Lewis
>>How do you feel BJ, is your memory okay, what do you remember? >>Oh dude, I've been killing nazis, it's all good, let's kill some nazis.
That is his most defining trait and it was perfect to establish he was back to normal
Isaiah Collins
>YOU GUYS JUST HATE IT BECAUSE YOUR RACIST
Or we hate it because shitty 4 hour CINEMATIC shooters are fucking trash
Gabriel Rivera
The average person that didn't get in your retarded meme war aren't centrists. They're sensible people. Their politics can be anywhere on the spectrum, they're just not faggots like you are.
Evan Brown
>Muh race doesn't exist means I can hallucinate that one of the largest boards comprised of different individuals of different beliefs is actually a single bloc of goose stepping Nazis who cry when people play WWII games
Christopher Cook
>I am enjoying my anger you fucking retard The SJWs love their anger too. Why do you think they love to play the victim? It fuels their meaningless existence. You have so much more in common than you think. Same shit, different side.
Angel Scott
>I-I'm not centrist I'm trans-political!
Carson Morales
>Half the game is cutscenes filled with badly written characters, mediocre story, unfunny "comedy" and a shitload of SJW bullshit, like the generic black girl with the chimpanzee hair style >The other half is just a bunch of shitty corridors with any lack of enemy variety and boss fights
Nah, it was pure shit.
Brody Kelly
Your politics are irrelevant, what matters is if you're a faggot about them and bring them up when they aren't relevant or not. If you do, you're a SJW or a Sup Forumstard, if you don't, you're good.
Carter Fisher
>atheist >tells someone else their existence is meaningless lmaoing at you
Brayden Sanchez
What a well-informed comment.
Nathaniel Baker
>Sup Forumsrigins bitching about games they don’t play what a unprecedented turn of events, people who played it complained more about bugs and technical issues rather than the shitty controversy marketing
Lucas Jenkins
...
Jace Gutierrez
I have just one very important question, OP.
Do I get to punch a Nazi?
Jayden Myers
>Sup Forums doesn't play videogames Wow, what a fucking shocker, OP.
Brayden Rivera
Fucking plebs >Lady... That the best you got? Then your best won't do. You among wolves now. And these are our woods This is heavy shit. Its more about how he handles being on the losing side, with his loss of his friends and his dying body. And don't tell me his are about his father isnt pure kino
Asher Lewis
You either have no moral backbone or are completely apathetic. Your worldview seeps into everything you do, it's unavoidable.
If I could hazard a guess you're a consumerist supporter of capitalism with an apathetic, liberal value system. Wouldn't be surprised if you were atheist, non religious or like I said - apathetic.
Grayson Allen
It certainly did for me, I've heard it's pretty short, filled with political nonsense and poorly balanced with not enough enemy types and patches of bad design throughout, knowing that the politics are heavily cut down in the game itself, as well as knowing the game is longer than shown has pushed me towards picking it up myself.
not sure if i count though considering I never posted about TNC and never watched any videos on it because TNO was pretty bad so I figured it'd be more of the same here
Kayden Barnes
not an argument.
Gavin Richardson
That's your problem. Get a better sound system with more bass if you're complaining about the weapons sounding weak.
Jaxon Sanchez
t. Sargoy of Cuckkad
Alexander Russell
literally nobody is complaining about that. YOU fuck off
Camden Walker
Pretty much. The only things I hated about the game was it´s marketing and your "allies". The black bitch, the conspiracy-cuck and the communist were just insufferable and made me want to side with the nazis.
Lucas Jackson
go back to ihop
Dominic Perez
Then they should blame their marketing team I'm not buying that shit and nobody I know is either. Afro niggers don't sell games
Lincoln Ramirez
Sup Forums has become the next /mlp/ and keeps dropping in to derail every thread and board. Problem is the mods sort of agree with some Sup Forums shit so they sometimes ban you for trying to tell one to fuck off or say you don't like Donald Trump.
Benjamin Foster
no, you saying strawman after strawmanning doesn't suddenly make my initial post retorted. you're deflecting via shitposting, you're a pleb who cant into critical thinking and saying "straw man" doesn't suddenly fucking make your argument won. you stupid british cuck, you have to have a valid point to begin with, you fuck. your point is "HURRR YOU DINNUT PLAY EEET" when everyone did pirate it and play it, and knew it was shit at a base level, and called it on it, and thus not one journalist will say anything other than comment about its "profound" message that nazis are bad ,
Christopher Smith
>Implying Sargon isn't Sup Forums shit
Grayson Foster
I am apathetic to whatever kind of politic you want to seep into video games, yes.
Also, you really are no different from SJWs.
>Video games are inherently political This is straight out of the SJWs playbook. You're fucking shameless.
Jeremiah Stewart
If your argument was good, you wouldn't have to lie in order to defend it.
James Johnson
Shills will never respond to these posts because the gameplay is shit
Xavier Collins
>Sup Forums hates sargon now
What happened?
Tyler Cox
>Stop saying we're from Sup Forums because we disagree with you, you neogaf cuck The statement above is a joke
Brody Ross
Name something that's great about it
Cooper Nelson
>browsing Sup Forums >thinking he has a unique opinion Top wow man.
You have as much uniqueness and individuality as a cia sleeper drone.
Dylan Murphy
More lies I see, or are you so new that you didn't see all the first threads?
Justin Nguyen
I just wanted to kill Hitler, man. Mechahitler, shitting hitler, crazy hitler, whatever. I thought it'd be funny and neat.
I can't even fucking do that.
Jeremiah Hill
Look at all the Sup Forumstards you managed to trigger with such a simple post. You did a good job.
William Bennett
It's a racist anti-white jew game, sorry. No way around it. You're a cucked ass bitchboy if you bought this steaming turd.
The truth hurts, I know. You've been living under a rock avoiding for many years now. Time to deal with it.
Xavier Wright
This, most of Sup Forums never plays the games they shit on. They just parrot something someone else said until the majority of the board adopts it as a fact.
Elijah Reed
>I'm 95% convinced anyone complaining about the game being "racist towards white people" just [looked at evidence from the game to support that conclusion]. you sure about that?