Play romancing SaGa 2 guys its realy good.
Finally got an official English version on android.
Its one of my favorite 16 bit JRPGs now.
It has:
-Tons of optional quests.
-Non linear progression
-Choices that matter
-Challenging combat even from n normal enemies.
-Grinding makes the game harder and bosses have alternate stronger forms just in case you grind to much.
-Tons of replay value
I'd play it if it wasn't stuck on Andoird/iOS and Vita.
At that point you are better off playing a wrpg honestly
Just emulate it on droid4x.
It works perfectly and you can even setup the controls to play it on keyboard mostly or controller.
Most WRPGs lack the charm and depth these games have.
Hell even modern JRPGs lack the charm of the 16 bit ps1 era ones.
Is this a make your own party members game or a FF game where they have personality
First and Final emperor are Custom chars rest of them are your own custom party ones.
You play several generations of heroes and there is also permadeath in the game but you have global levels that affect every single recrutible char in game and all the skils and magic and gear you learn or find can be inherited and assigned to new chars.
While i get why you like characters whit personality dont worry to much about it in this game because it makes it up by having a ton of bosses scenarios and locations and side characters.
Story isn't realy that much of a focus in this game its more like stories you'd find in souls there are a ton fo characters but you interpret the lore and history and fill in the blanks yourself.
Thats cool Ill add it to the infinite backlog
Ups meant first and final are unique rest are custom.
Is connected to the first one? How is the firfir game?
>firfir
I mean first
Can you define your own character with a personality of his own or are "choices" in the game merely branches of pre-written storypaths where your main character mostly acts on his own, e.g. saying things without querying player input?
Are combat actions animated or does it just show damage numbers only?
Its like FFVI
Your characters are animated and all attacks and magic have special effects and animations.
Normal enemies are static images.
But most bosses are mildly animated.
Thanks, FF6's visuals are decent.
OP, Romancing SaGa 2 is probably the worst possible choice to a newcomer series to start with because it is so punishing difficult, even compared to other SaGa games
Come back and tell us this when the SNES version gets an English translation
3 is better anyways
>Implaying 3 isnt the worst SaGa game
20 scheckels for a mobile game?
you gay or something?
I tried getting through this once before but year 1000 was such a slog i couldn't take it.
It's not and I don't want to play the android version of RS2. They changed the background graphics to some generic art style and did some cheap twining effects to pass off as "animation", the mobile UI clashes with the original sprites and it's made by the same people who fucked up those Final Fantasy mobile ports. So when the SNES version of the game actually gets translated you can come back here and tell us all to play RS2, but until then just fucking stop trying to make us support the group that did shit like this.
Whoa man, cool down, I'm not even oP
I'm just saying the best in the series is clearly Romancing Saga: Minstrel Song
Also, holy fuck, that image is a fucking crime.
Current day babbies will think this art style is superior
I want to die
>Love the SaGa games and think they're very underrated
>Hate obvious shilling
What do I do?
Play Saga Frontier 2
HIGHLY recommend checking out the Romancing SaGa remake on PS2.
The character models are... weird, and (depending on who you choose), it can start off slow (the further explanation of mechanics is a text dump).
But once it gets going... it's something else.
It's like Way of the Samurai, in RPG form.
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The background graphics are not bad.
If anything they are esteticly an improvement over the originals.
Tis is not FF tier sprite rework that makes them look worse than the originals.
Its just better backgrounds overall.
makes exploring the world more interesting.
I hope it's not your first SaGa ever because Noel&Co will tear your ass apart.
No, all SaGa games have a self contained story. At most there could be a reference but that is rare, like reoccurring bosses in the Gameboy games or the call backs in the Romancing SaGa remake.
If you said Final Fantasy Legend III that would be believable since it wasn't even made by Kawazu and doesn't have any SaGa conventions and in fact is more of a standard JRPG.
>the call backs in the Romancing SaGa remake.
The only call backs I can think were some of the special weapons being references to previous bosses, but that's something that has always existed in the series to some degree, think weapons like the Ice Sword or stuff like Suzaku being a common monster in Frontier which you can also recruit.
Anyone has a link to the apk?
The chainsaw weapon that can kill enemies in one hit, the library has a book about it as well in reference to the Creator in Final Fantasy Legend I. Also in the Earth Monsters lair you can find the Minstrel playing this: youtube.com
You can google things these days you know
I beat SaAa 1 on GB
SaAga 2 remake on DS
Saga Frotnier II
And Last remenant.
While i admit the game is hard as fuck i did read a bunch of sparking tutorials and used the wiki and faq all the time to make non shit builds.
You shouldn't be using too many outside resources for SaGa games to be honest, one of the rewarding parts is stumbling around. Only time like any other game is when you're stuck and have no clue how to progress.
Yeah, but those are the usual references you can find in the series, TLR had even more.
Also, Wipe your tears Away was a recurrent song even before Minstrel Song, the original Romancing SaGa and also Romancing SaGa 2 had slight rearrangements of that.
>Reading guides for SaGa
Shit son, way to ruin the experience, Romancing SaGa 2 is also great because there's so many quest variations.
Anyway, where are you now? Are you having fun?
I beat the game.
also i didn't real the guides all the time just the basic's of how learning skills and magic works.
Like if i didn't read the guides i would now know that you level up magic global levels in game just by using it once in battle.
So i just used every class of magic once per boss fight or serious normal encounter.
I got some of the most powerful attacks in the game like reverse delta or similar on a whim not buy fowling a guide.
Cool, did you also beat the True Queen in the optional dungeon? Kudos to that if you did because that's pretty much bullshit.
How was your experience with the game?
Favorite class/characters?
I played romancing saga 2 and enjoyed it a lot. I found the combat to be a lot of fun and enjoyed exploring the world. Why should I have played a wrpg instead?
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Didnt know about her because as i stated i only used the Faq for some minor things.
near the end of the final dungeon i just wanted to finish the game so i probably didn't find her.
Cat realy say i had a favorite class.
I did use the Tactician and Niad most of the time.
And My final party was These 2 The emperor Privateer and Salamander.
Purchase Fallout 4.
>I did use the Tactician and Niad most of the time.
That's interesting, most people usually don't bother with the mermaids, or anything other than salamanders when it comes to the beast tribes.
Do you plan on replaying it? You should try to progress in different ways to see how the game changes doing so, a lot of care was put in sequence breaking and variations to make the game's replay value really high.
Sometimes I wonder if Todd is even aware that Kawazu basically came up with TES' levelling system almost a decade before TES was a thing, I wonder if Kawazu ever played TES too for that matter.
So is the SNES Romancing Saga 2 still untranslated completely? If so, I don't give a fuck about whatever you're shilling.
SNES RS2 will NEVER EVER be translated.
>2017
>still waiting for Gideon
LEL
Don't listen to OP
Play this instead
QUICK GIMME SOME RPG MAKER GAMES THAT HAVE A SaGa BATTLE SYSTEM
As someone else who started with romasaga 2 I thought molemen > iris > mermaid > salamander
My first playthrough I went in with no info other than a couple posts from the late saga general, I screwed up several quests such as missing thieves, killing the brawler, and negotiating with the pirates. I didn't upgrade my weapons or armor, I didn't research fusion attacks until my final empress, I got completely slaughtered by noel the first time I found him and saved him for second last because I didn't manage to find subier at all. I missed some formations since I didn't have many emperors and my final team was empress / amazon / strategist / iris / female mercenary. I also used crusaders heavily through the game but didn't manage to fit one in my final party. Ultimately I relied on meh skills like slice and triumvirate to beat the game.
After my first playthrough I read up on game mechanics and did a second run with coppelia as my empress and an extremely low number of battles.
I might do another playthrough one day with bonus content turned on; I had it off because I was told it breaks the game.
I honestly don't know how to rank the four tribes, I'd say the mermaids might be the "worse" simply because their defenses are paper thin and there's better casters, but they have really high water scores, which can be exploited handily, I don't think there's a useless class in RS2 really, maybe the Desert Guard but they still perform well stat wise even though their tables aren't the best.
>I was told it breaks the game.
It kinda does because the chests in the extra dungeon have really good equipment among stuff like Life Potions, which were previously a limited resource, that is "rebalanced" by chests having random seeds for both appearance rate in the dungeon and content, not to mention that the extra dungeon's monsters have a fixed BR depending on the floor, which is also abusable if you know what you're doing I guess.
It's hard to say if it's really gamebreaking or not because you have to have an already good knowledge of the game to understand how valuable the chests in those dungeons are.
Only know a fan RPG that is similar, it is one of those Touhou games.
You mean Genius of Sappheiros and the other Strawberry Bose RPGs?
I also forgot, the two new classes you can obtain in the extra dungeon, the Kunoichi/Shinobi and the Onmyouji are really good if you want a more varied team, the Kunoichi is pretty much the only dedicated martial art class outside of the brawlers too, though stat wise they're more or less the opposite, high speed but no defense.
Anyone have an android apk link for it? A safe one? If it were 5 bucks I'd pay for it but 18 is way too steep.
A quick search gives me four or five different results on the first page, I didn't pirate the game because I bought the JP Vita version years ago so I can't help you on safe links.
I heard the official version requires you to be connected to the internet at all times, is that true?
No, there's an authentification check for the software once you boot it up in which the game will ask you to connect to the internet but you can bypass it on a pirated APK.
There has been some discussion about that specific thing on /vr/ when the game came out, you should check the archives for that.
Man, these threads die so quickly.
I can only hope the Romancing SaGa 3 remake/remaster will fix that a bit.
What are the best versions of this saga?
The Vita/Android remaster is pretty much the definitive version for the bugfixes alone, the new content is also a good challenge.
Other than that there's the SNES original and the old mobile port which is basically unobtainable by now.
I just recently bought a PS1 copy of SaGa Frontier 2. I've been interested in the series but have never played it.
Do I need to play the first one? Or is it standalone? How does it rank among the rest of the series? Good first entry?
All SaGa games are standalone.
>How does it rank among the rest of the series?
It's a bit of a weird entry because unlike most other games it's pretty story focused, as much as a SaGa game can be of course, it's also the only modern SaGa without BR mechanics and a "linear" story.
>Good first entry?
Don't think so, it's not super hard unless you force yourself to fight the powered up version of the final boss but there's a lot of traps for newbies and the game's structured through a series of points of no return which can be pretty much your doom depending on where you save, good thing is that like all SaGa you can save whenever and wherever so having multiple save files solves this.
You'll probably rage a lot for the South Moundtop scenario though.
Anything I should know about Minstrel Song or is blind the way to go? I started with claudia.
>I can only hope the Romancing SaGa 3 remake/remaster will fix that a bit.
Is it getting an English release?
"after romancing saga 2"
That won't happen. Neither remake is going to the Vita which is already a niche handheld and a lot of people don't want to bother with a game that is on a mobile device.
>Anything I should know about Minstrel Song
You started with Claudia, so no, enjoy the ride.
And blind is always the way to go.
>Is it getting an English release?
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Nothing, you just go into these games blind. One thing to mention though, it is normal to feel lost in a SaGa game so don't feel discouraged if you feel lost in how to progress or how to even approach a quest you just got.
Romancing SaGa 2 on Android was localized, they probably blocked the Vita localization because it's a mostly dead platform in the west, I don't know what to say about that.
It's pretty much guaranteed that the iOS/Android version will be localized.
I agree, why not play one of the all time greats like Skyrim, I hear it's coming out for the switch soon.
I am having doubts with the RS3 remake coming to the android since I don't know how well RS2 did outside of Japan.
Sales figures for mobile software are next to impossible to find, so I can't help with that.
Since it's Kawazu saying that one can only assume he'll intercede with the higher ups as much as he can, after all we still got all the games bar the mobile ones and the last mainline on Vita, who was even expecting Romancing SaGa 2 to come out in the west in the first place.
I'm personally more worried about the localization quality.
Are we getting Scarlet Grace?
Had more of a chance with RS2 Vita than Scarlet Grace.
>and Vita
Dammit user you got my hopes up that it was finally in English on Vita.
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RS2 on Vita STILL isn't finished? Holy shit, can Square Enix just spare more than one of their translators to get that out?
It is never going to get finished, or more like was it even started outside of announcing it?
Actually, they don't even need to translate it. Is the Square Enix just not savvy with the Vita, or do they just not care? I know I've already answered my own question.
It's probably just the SE suits blocking the thing because it won't make enough money for them.
It sucks because I would pay to play it on the Vita and its awesome D-pad.
Yeah, I don't want to play on my shitty phone and don't feel like wasting money to get a better device just for one game. It's like they're telling me outright to emulate it on my computer instead for free instead of giving them my money.
Be a man and start learning japanese, it's immensely worth it.
I started but dropped it because I hate looking at kanji. Why can't the whole world just speak the best language ever created instead of their own special snowflake languages?
Your loss man, you'd also be able to avoid the localization curse, which SaGa unfortunately has since the GB games.
Smuggling bananas was never a crime in SaGa 2.
I'm learning something else right now.
Smuggling bananas IS a crime. You are introducing non-indigenous flora to the region and it can have catastrophic consequences on the ecosystem.
>Smuggling bananas IS a crime.
Well, not in SaGa 2.
And why would you hire ninjas to smuggle bananas anyway?
Who else would you hire in Edo, samurai? So don't mind me while I go to the Edo store and buy Tank and Missile.
>Not playing Genius of Sappheiros instead
>Who else would you hire in Edo, samurai?
A mech, obviously.
If they don't spy on toku heroes you can be sure they won't get caught smuggling bananas.
You came to the wrong neighborhood mother fucker.
GoS is a cool SaGa clone, but it's just that, a clone.
And Romancing SaGa 2 is unique in its structure, like all SaGa games anyway. The way it works on a class based system and the world design is nothing you can find on GoS, which is more similar to SaGa Frontier 2 in what it does, with a sprinkle of other mechanics from different games.
GoS is really good though, it's made by JP SaGa nerds and it shows.
my nigga
As much as it's good I wouldn't really put Frontier above Romancing SaGa 2.
The remake might change that though, but we'll talk about that in some good 3-4 years by now.
But I haven't played romancing saga yet.