Classic WoW dead on arrival

Wasn't the whole fun part of Vanilla WoW the community and sense of wonder? How will official Classic Servers revive that? You'll just be playing with the toxic milienials and modern WoW/Overwatch community, plus everything is already datamined and theorycrafted so no surprises.

Nostalgia is a hell of a drug

Aren't those vanilla private servers infested with tons of chinks just like PUBG? Won't retail classic be the same?

Oldschool Runescape brought back lots of 'old' players. Presumably Classic WoW will do that too.
There is already a long line of players who want legacy servers. If this is executed well, it's going to be massive. Same numbers as retail at the very least. The only people who aren't happy about this are current players who feel cheated out of their time.

>You'll just be playing with the toxic milienials
But user, WoW has always had mostly millennial players. If nothing is changed from vanilla the weak ones will be trolled until they shape up or ship out.

>meet modern wow player while questing
>it's obvious he doesn't know where to go or what to do because no map marker
>ask if he needs help
>he tries to say something but all the years of nu-wow has made him forget how to talk
>he just stands there like a frightened animal trying to not be seen
>i shrug and keep killing mobs
>when he thinks i'm not looking he runs off and disappears behind a rock
>kill the mobs and then run back towards the quest hub
>behind the rock he ran past ten minutes ago i see his elf ears sticking out

isn't oldschool runescape free to play though? I doubt classic wow will be free. that goes against retail and blizzards interests of making money

Millennial's played this in it's prime. It's the Gen Z that will come along and destroy it.

> Same numbers as retail at the very least.
lmao
vanillacucks everyone

It kinda depends on how vanilla they will go.
People laugh at the "you think you do but you don`t" but its not wrong.

I leveled 2 characters to 60 back in the day and i still remember every grind spot (fuck questing) you can see this as a good or bad thing.

Besides alterac valley and some open world pvp there was really not much to do on a daily basis.

You mean a long line of chinks and yuropoors. if you ever played legacy servers you would know this.

Have you played classic WoW lately? It's all still there, the wonderment and everything is still there because it's fucking dangerous to be almost anywhere. The world still feels hidden and secretive because you have to carefully travel in packs to even think about surviving in those awesome deep places. Hell, even Fargodeep mine is tricky to get through at that level. People have to work together so they do, it's cool.

It will be Neo Vanilla WoW

Going to screencap this and post a thread after it's released. By numbers I mean current active players. Retailcucks everyone.

>$0.04 has been deposited into your account

>the wonderment and everything is still there
only newfags to classic say this. there's no wondering or excitement because everything is not fresh anymore. what good is PVP when everyone copypastes the same broken spec that has been objectively theorycrafted to be the best of the patch

>the wonderment and everything is still there

yeah
private server pops have been a tiny fraction of retail, like less than 10%
sure there will be a boost since these are offcicial and I'm sure most people on retail will at least check out classic, but I seriously doubt it's gonna lead to some lasting playerbase on a retail level

>Each patch has already been theorycrafted to hell and back
>Bosses are simple and more of gear checks than anything
>Everything optimal is already known
>Where everything drops and how to efficiently farm is readily available
>There are already addons ready to help people breeze through the fastest way to level
>Even the shittiest of toasters nowadays can play vanilla WoW fine, removing assholes raiding at 5fps from the equation on top of optimization Blizzard plans on putting in

The only thing that's going to ruin this is you people when you realize how much of a joke it's going to be when decade old content that actually works properly is released; the best thing Blizzard could do is make the servers have rotating "seasons" where they cycle through patch content than reset, and then put some sort of cosmetic rewards tied to your account, whether it be for retail only or classic, like titles.

also private servers are mainly popular because it's F2P WoW with no region lock. retail classic will most likely not be F2P and will have seperate servers for NA/EU/etc

What scares me more is that discord will kill in-game socialization anymore. Sure there was vent back in the day but it wasn't massively adopted like discord today where you can use it on phones and web browsers.

>people have been playing vanilla on pservers since 2005
>Y-YOU WONT HAVE FUN!!!
k e k

I think there will be a pretty solid playerbase akin to retail.
What is the reason you don't like this? Do you really play retail and feel cheated?

you mean chinese people. it's like flaunting that PUBG is good when it's mostly chinks and bots.

I don't dislike this; I'll probably check it out myself. I'm just not exactly hyped for going through content that doesn't stack up to now. Boring tank & spank fights and raids with endless trash on a short respawn timer? Yeah doesn't really sound like fun.

I'm not chinese, and the thousands of people who'd pile up in main cities for a server getting axe'd usually spoke english, faggot

Private server collapses are actually what facilitate the community on Vanilla servers, because everytime one falls in on itself due to corruption or being shut down by Blizzard, it was only up for a year or two before a complete reset is forced, making each server going down and new one popping up basically a brand new season like in D2/D3

clearly you never played on nostalrius. there was constant chinese in chat at peak hours

Blizzard could add content.

And yet private servers have been popular for years with some servers reaching thousands of players.

>Private server collapses are actually what facilitate the community on Vanilla servers
except vanilla is pretty much open source at this point and it was the most stable of any era on the private server scene. Nost and elysium were the two major collapses, other than that, it was scores of vanilla projects with almost a decade of uptime.

and there was no english, right?

stop pretending that there's no audience for vanilla when there's clearly an audience for it as seen by the numerous vanilla projects which are still running.

Will blizzcucks rage about this for years?

the western audience for vanilla is very small compared to the chink audience for it. just look at any vanilla private server. chinese everywhere and they even go as far as doing RMT on private servers, it's why elysium got shut down in the first place.

Generation Zyklon will save the world

stop thotposting

>Same numbers as retail at the very least.
not long term. many will come back but a tiny number will stay long term. then blizz can shut it down forever with proof its not a viable product

To add, I'll probably enjoy the leveling again, but endgame and dungeons are just not good.

Non WoW player here (tried at BC but dropped it because I'm not into MMOs)
My interest in this is exclusively to see what they change in a literal sense. I can see them using a vanilla build, forking it, then maintaining whatever they do in that fork but what would be changed in said fork from vanilla

I'm into prototypes betas alphas etc so this has me thinking. Unfortunately due to the sheer bullshit of online games we have a huge problem preserving these things solely due to changes being made without being listed.

Knowing blizzard then vs now I know they're more keen on preserving their shit now but back then that wasn't the case. Needless to say I hope they don't fuck shit up too much for you people but I also hope they track all their shit right this time around.

Let me tell you, pre-closed beta WoW is something strange to experience and I'm not even a person that plays this shit

You niggers might not care or think about what I've just typed but believe me, this shit matters more than you can ever imagine. There's a reason change logs exist but aren't to be trusted fully

I was the one who leaked the fucking audio recording of the elysium team meeting, you don't need to tell me about the chinese and their affinity for private servers.

you are entirely disingenuous if you're trying to imply that there's no non-slope audience for vanilla

>hurrr it's just nostalgia xDD
Or maybe games were just better back then sweetie lol.

Not hyped. Sorry.

I played when U/LBRS was top content...

I played my heart out fighting Arthas in Icecrown...

I rode atop Deathwing after surviving the upheaval of the world..

I brought Garrosh to justice, only to have him slip through our fingers...

Turned back the Iron Horde...

And fight the Legion whom have plagued our realm for so long...

My point is... The story goes on. The game evolves.. and we have grown along with it.

I won't fault those with rose colored glasses... or those who never knew those times for being excited but I enjoy new content and new lore to explore. Characters evolving and changing... others we love passing on... others stepping forward to fill the gap.

It's kind of like the longest book written..that keeps adding chapters. Chapter one was cool in it's time, but i don't want to stay there forever... there's soooo much more to read.

T A R D

No. It has a similar system to the WoW tokens where you can buy play time with in-game currency

So is this going to be pure vanilla or '07scape "We wanted to go back but we actually kinda liked some of the new changes would you kindly add those to this version pretty please" vanilla?

Thanks for correcting the record.

I genuinely don't understand why blizzdrones are so obnoxious about this. Your cancerous game is still there. You can play it if you want. If you're so sure Classic will fail, why do you care?

has the price of this been confirmed yet?

What if...

You just enjoy retail or classic and not cry over having different options

must own a active retail account with gametime.

NOTHING IS CONFIRMED YOU RETARDS

Pirate servers are free

So I will be fine if I didn't buy xpacs after TBC? That is awesome.

I wouldnt mind if they added a couple new mechanics to the bosses. I also wouldnt mind if Blizzard made a small team to add new content to the game. As long as they keep the feeling of community, the feeling of being a nobody in a large world, and dont make the players anything more than a group of random adventurers I am fine.

>This autistic post will go ignored
>Despite having actual value
Well shit

you must be dreaming if you expect blizzard to make classic WoW free. you bet your ass they will be trying to profit off this with either a sub fee or cash shop.

BUT EVERYONE DESERVES LEGENDARIES AND ARTIFACTS user

Responsibility.
You can't do all you can do solo in vanilla. And you can't just auto join a group.
You have to not act like a shitbird to get groups, you have to not be a whining bitch to complete some quests. And best of all no cross realm, so if you're a faggot everyone will know and you'll be more or less blacklisted by every guild or group except for the desperate or equally faggy.

Cool, but how do you think Blizzard would handle the project if it did happen?

you literally, LITERALLY can't defend vanilla druid

the idea of a class that can morph between various modes that are all just other classes but dogshit doesn't fucking work in a game like wow, it means it's a class nobody plays and has no reason to play. They may as well just fucking delete them from the game entirely and save everyone the trap option of playing "priest but shitty and with 1 kinda useful exclusive buff, also they can be worthless mage/rogue/warrior"

literally tear jerking me vro step off

I don't trust modern Blizzard with that.
>source: your anus

>Sup Forums keeps asking blizzard to do vanilla servers
>blizzard does it
>"hurr why the fuck would they do this, no one wanted this"

begone whore

you don't need a source when you're talking about the fucking GREEDIEST publisher in the world (Activision-Blizzard). they don't do hand outs, they will try to make money off this. sub fees, cash shops, selling the game standalone, etc.

Sup Forums is not one person. The people complaining are cancerous blizzdrones who, if you can believe it, play retail WoW in 2017

>Sup Forums is one person with one single opinion

Lol

dude were is the lik butn omg

imagine the anal devastation if it just ends up being stock mangos

private servers are infested that way by design. all the servers were run by russians who let the chinese gold farmers run amok for a cut of the profit.

Nostalgia-ridden retards don't want new content, they want the good feelies they got when they skipped school to go farm lowbies in Elwynn.

You could give them a whole new raid tier based on Classic and they'd bitch because it "wouldn't fit vanilla wow", when in fact the reason they hate it is because they don't remember playing it years ago.

You are literally complaining about something that hasn't happened. Chill the fuck out

considering that on both nost and elysium, ragnaros was broken and didn't do his basic mechanics beyond summoning the elementals, raids will be much harder if blizzard remembers what the hell the bosses actually did.

>As long as they keep the feeling of community
what the fuck is this even supposed to mean? it's like the buzzword "comfy"

thats just butthurt legioncucks mad that their dead game is even deader now

All i want is some servers that remove cross-realm features, instant dungeons queues, quest hand-holding, ect on modern wow

I want to feel the adventure, but not on the very same shit i played years ago.

I know i won't get my alterac 1.0, i know i won't get my unintended plague. Why bother?

This, fuck people who likes things I don't, they're fucking retards who should die and also objectively wrong

so what, why does everything have to be fucking optimal, people will still play the class if they like it

yeah ok retard enjoy your facebook games

Dungeon finder is a good addition if it grouped you up with people on your server.

so you want a server where everyone spams LFG in chat, you waste sub time walking to dungeons, and you want to waste even more time doing bland fetch quests

never understood this sort of MMO autism

There are a shit load of people in the west that refused to touch private servers. They were buggy as shit, UNRELIABLE, there was always the fear of your character data being wiped because of DCMA shutdown or other controversy, and there were chinks everywhere

This is an actual Blizzard experience. There are going to be more players than Blizzard will be able to handle on day 1

Not to mention faggots from live will doubledip into vanilla

...

Because autists don't have empathy. They can't fathom that other people think differently than them

It means you can identify people from both factions because of constant interaction with them. It creates server lore that isnt dependent on what Blizzard handfeeds you and is fun to remember years later.

>screenagers
I really wish I never read this term or knew it existed.

It's a good thing retail WoW isn't going anywhere and is even getting a new expansion then

but can't you do the same thing on retail today but also easier because you can use discord and the battle.net in-game friend features and shit

Fuck off, i want people to talk while heading to a dungeon, not be full autistic because they pop up inside of the dungeon

Heh, you nostalgiafags think your classic servers will last for more than a few months? Mmo-champion has spoken. It'll be dead on arrival.

People think socializing equals to spamming tradechat
You mean waiting for a warlock summon lol. You want to share life stories while you do content?

What's the payment model for classic servers?

It'd be nice to have access to classic servers as part of the normal WoW subscription, but knowing Blizzard they'll probably make you buy WoW Classic and pay a different sub.

>You want to share life stories while you do content?
Yes? Are you autistic?

>implying any serious vanilla player would frequent mmochamp

must own a retail subscription of course just like in 2004

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I don't know about you but sharing my complete personal life with people i've met over tradechat is a sign of autism of being lonely. Nothing wrong with small talk

it's incredibly naive to assume a company like blizzard will make WoW fully f2p. it will most definitely involve money.

If you're a hardcore player you will hate druid because they aren't as effective as other classes in whatever role they're currently taking and you'll get autistic rage over your lack of efficiency

If you are a casual player you will only have fun if you don't realize how much you're missing, because in order to be a combo of warrior/rogue/mage/priest you need to not only have smaller numbers but you miss out on all the fun utility abilities all those classes get because your list has to give you the basics for 4 different roles instead

This isn't "this class has a specific spec thats not very good" because outside of maybe paladin/shaman all the specs are largely just different flavors of the same core ability set. A survival hunter is very ineffective compared to marksman but you still generally play them the same, just less effectively. Meanwhile druids are NEVER effective

>to play wow classic you must buy it separately from the new expansion/base game
>you must also pay a sub fee to access it
>your account must also have active game time with a battle of azeroth license to access classic wow
prove me wrong