Blizzard has to design, program, evaluate, balance...

>Blizzard has to design, program, evaluate, balance, and release an entirely new character to change the meta of Overwatch
>Valve has to add a few items to change the meta of TF2

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I mean I'm sure if Overwatch made weapons instead of entirely new classes that would probably happen to them too. It's not hard to change the meta when all it takes is adding some kind of niche weapon or something that class couldn't do before

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>Overwatch adds new character
>it's a strong womyn who challenges the cis white male privilege of the cast

>Tf2 adds new weapons, maps, contracts, reskins, and cosmetics. and actually fixes alot of problems with game balance

Makes you think.....

*looks at Overwatch's numbers*
*pulls out microscoping glass too look at TF2's numbers*
*lets out tiny scoff but quickly recomposes self and adjusts tie*

How cute.

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While true, Valve's items are through lootboxes, while Blizzard's cosmetics from said boxes do not affect the meta at all.

>looks at Overwatch's numbers*
So tell us those Overwatch numbers? How many concurrent players at this moment?

>Valve's cosmetics are through lootboxes

ftfy

Overwatch sucks dick

30 MILLION
What now TF2KEK?
I'm over here enjoying my skins enjoy your shitty hats lol.

that's because overwatch has character and ability based gameplay while tf2 is about classes and weapons

you mouthbreathing inbred retard

>30 MILLION
Where did you get this number? Your ass?

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>META

yet another reason i dont play multiplayer anymore

the only weapons to release this update are obtainable through contracts

Well over 60,000 players, thats for damn sure.

How do you know? :^)

i still don't know why they keep sayin "muh 30 gorillion"

Tf2 has 43~ million players

Lol, i dunno. I still play TF2 anyway for fun community servers.

Something Overwatch will never have.

those dont count, overwatch has 30 million active players though i just guess none near my state in the united states as it takes 20 minutes to join a match!

China.

OBSESSED

>mfw I false flag as both anti-tf2 and anti-overwatch
> all those easy autist and normalfag (You)s

please stop

>mfw i try to derail ow threads but they do it themselves via feet and mommy posting

Not to mention valve adds new weapon with the sole purpose of embarrassing the person that gets killed by it,

Blizzard bans you for using too many voicelines incase you're harassing someone

mek u thenk

>TF2 adds all that guff
>The player number stays up for 2-3 days then fall back to normal with the idle bot servers

user, no Overbab talking about player numbers will be taken seriously until blizzard actually shows or allows their playerbase to be tracked, like in steam-stats.
You can´t pretend OW is alive when nobody knows how many players it has at the moment.
If you believe blizzard then you´re delusional faggot.

idle bot

>he has to actually playtest
>he doesn't just add a new weapon to the game and just see how angry the community gets

Aren't new weapons essentially just the same as adding a new class to tf2 in most cases since most completely change the playstyle of who ever you're playing as?

>actually fixes alot of problems with game balance
When has this EVER happened in TF2?

>Overwatch has 20+ characters with fixed weapons to choose from for 6v6 matches
>TF2 has 9 characters with a plethora of weaponry to choose from for 16v16+ matches
Really forms a vortex in the good ol' cerebral cortex

Go away.

I find it amazing how much stuff soldier can get done when your team is getting steam rolled

>Team getting demolished
>I just change from engie to soldier
>Just spam rockets on the point and kill half of the team.
>Use the conchilione to heal and help all the pyros chase enemies
>Medics instinctively heal me every single time i request for health.

>buy a key for 2.50$
>trade it for refs
>buy every weapon available and half dozen cosmetics with those refs
What's the price tag of overcuck?

It's 35 million, try to keep up. :^)

>overwatch releases a new 2 cp map made by professional devs who work for a paycheck
>turns out garbage
>valve releases a new 2 cp map made by 4 dedicated community map makers who did it for free
>not garbage
really activates my almonds

Almost all the Overwatch maps are complete garbage, we knew this at the beginning

My brain wants me to be aroused, but my penis won't let me

>waiting time represents player count
>believing this lie

Mossrock could be a solid 9/10 without the train

never said anything about the quality of either game or which one i prefer

>overwatch devs release a beautiful themed map that is extremely detailed
>plays like shit

every time

>overwatch devs release a map that reddit spacers trying to fit in on Sup Forums hate
>it's exactly what the majority of their audience, and video game consumers in general, want
every time

Since the devs are very clearly trying to compify TF2 as a means to compete with Overwatch how would they balance/apply other gamemodes that AREN'T 5CP in a 6v6 format?

I know compfags won't ever admit it but 5CP is the hill compfags are going to die on if they don't change and all the balance changes in the world don't mean shit when only one of the many popular gamemodes are played. Hell, the only reason some people claim certain classes "underpowered" most of the time is because they flat out refuse to account for defense based gamemodes.

Highlander isn't bad

>>it's exactly what the majority of their audience, and video game consumers in general, want
so casuals?

TF2>PALADINS>OVERWATCH

Maybe but it's clear we aren't getting it. Trying to pair up and communicate with 9 people is a pain as well as not as attractive to watch for that e-sport cash.

>Valve adds a few items they made in two months to TF2
>Retards proceed to suck their cock and buy thousands of boxes so they'll never make another game again

Yes.
These are the people who keep the industry running.
Companies worth their salt know better than to appeal to the Sup Forums audience with anything more than bare scraps because they know it's financial suicide.

>Paladins has 32+ characters with fixed weapons to choose from for 5v5 matches
is obvious what is the best hero shooter

I fucking love these

bae

No really, overwatch map design is absolutely fucking abysmal.
>their audience, and video game consumers in general, want
Just because braindead retards don't care about quality doesn't mean it's good.

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I'd be curious to see if drops in player numbers are as high as I think they were when the pyro update hit when compared to the release of overwatch's effect on TF2

>i-it'll die off a-a-any t-time n-now, I s-s-swear!!!

Where the numbers user?
:)

30
MILLION
CONCURRENT
PLAYERS

Source: My dad at blizz.

>source: my ass

>Blizzdrone doesn't know the difference between concurrent and players overall

everytime

Ah yes, i love playing with TF2's 43 million players

>make generic characters
>only difference between them is their weapon and faggot hat
>this is a good thing
Really? Are you sure?

>implying TF2 isn't stuck with 2soli+2scouts+demo+med forever and ever for eternity
>implying Volvo can change this shit

reminder that overwatch added hero limit to competitive because the matches were 2 lucio 2 tracers and 2 winstons

youtube.com/watch?v=bzZ6GrRTgrM

NAME A GAME WITH BETTER BANTER

YOU CAN'T

Reminder that tf2 added hero limit to competitive because the matches would be X demo and Y medics.

I can get every new weapon for free overcuck

Okay Blizz-Mutt

literally only youtubers/streamers do this for unboxing videos. you can get all new items and weapons for free.

Both updates are absolute garbage
>New Overwatch hero that will either be useless, annoying but rare to play against, or broken as all hell
and
>TF2 update that comes out after over a year of NOTHING adds a couple gag weapons, forgettable changes, and mostly community maps
neither address the mount Everest of problems affecting both games, both will take WAY TOO FUCKING LONG for a new update

The greatest maps in Overwatch are 6/10 maps
The average Overwatch map is 3/10
The maps in the game are so bad that it takes a -1/10 map like Anubis to get banned in competitive play
Overwatch level design is a joke, I don't know why Blizzard hasn't fired everyone responsible for their maps yet

Because thr people who actually know something is wrong with them represent a .0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of the gaming audience that Blizzard can safely ignore.

if you still play TF2 you are everything wrong with modern gaming kys

if you still play Overwatch you are everything wrong with modern gaming kys