There are only a few acceptable changes to vanilla that should be implemented. >balance towards classes, so raiding with things like elemental, prot pallys, guardians is viable and classes like rogue can't sap forever >added content that the community votes on like OSRS
Anything else I'm missing?
Noah Hall
No changes at all, go back to nu-wow you cuck.
Isaac Ortiz
remove all the dumb shit you just said and keep it as it was in vanilla.
Ian Reed
>guardian is viable But there's no guardian druid in vanilla. There's balance, there's restoration and there's feral. You either picked the tank talents in the feral tree or you picked the DPS talents.
Kayden Wood
I didn't know there were people who unironically enjoy it when their MMO only has 5 viable raiding specs.
Joseph Lee
Nostalgia is a strong thing, user
Samuel Roberts
D-d-don't touch anything nu-wowbabby!!! So the devs can hurry up and get away from this black hole of bullshit and back to actual content.
Ryan Reyes
Constant attempts to make every spec viable is exactly why the game is where it is now.
Why do you think class homogenization happened in the first place?
Robert Brooks
Don't need new content yet. Just keep grinding that Artifact Power.
Josiah Perry
people like you are the reason this is going to suck btw
they'll water it down for tourist faggots like you, who will then leave, and people who actually cared get fucked as usual
Wyatt Ortiz
Pretty sure it had more to do with LFR, flying, and lack of world PvP my dude.
James Richardson
That's not at all why the classes are samey now. The problem is that blizzard keeps on trying to make them easier to play. They've made them both unique and balanced, see early cataclysm.
Christopher Smith
Seriously, how the fuck do you enjoy it when 75% of your games specs are completely unviable in both pvp and raiding. All blizzard needs to do is numbers adjustments, they don't need to change any core abilities.
Tyler Wilson
Oh, and the part where they made all the overworld mobs weak as fuck to the point where you could faceroll your way to cap.
Henry Baker
These people literally hate having fun.
Owen Williams
I would be cool with no nerfs and just number buffs to the particularly bad specs.
Jason Stewart
No, the EVERYTHING MUST BE EQUAL philosophy that the devs have been chasing is definitely a contributing factor to the decline of the game.
If you want to tank in classic wow, play a warrior. Why is this so hard for some people?
Isaiah Anderson
because the other specs were good? Because you could still play some of the other 'trash' specs in pvp or for fun in casual stuff anyway?
You're so obviously a nu-wow player by you're 'muhh raiding' 'it must be viable for MUHH RAIDING'
Fuck off and actually enjoy the adventure >all blizzard needs to do is change numbers >all blizzard needs to do is change faulty talents >all blizzard needs to do is QoL fix >all blizzard needs to do is rebalance classes so everyone gets a go! >All blizzard needs to do is add LFG, you dont HAVE to use it!
kill yourself in an unironic manner
Nolan James
Yeah it's really fun in world PVP where a rogue can follow you around 24/7 sapping you every time you take a step. Or warriors being completely unkillable. Stop assuming shit you fucking retard. I couldn't give a rats ass about the RDF and Heirlooms infested retail WoW.
Robert Miller
Stackable soulshards Mounts and pets on tab Dual-spec
Robert Myers
>If you want to tank in classic wow, play a warrior. Why is this so hard for some people?
Because there's 2 other tanks in the game? Prot pallys and feral druids in bear form. You seem to be under the impression that vanilla WoW was perfect as is and nothing can be fixed. There's a difference between doing some slight numbers adjustments and adding features like RDF.
Justin Parker
Feel free to watch the last Q&A they literally confirmed they will change stuff based on feedback, this server is not going to be the original .
Carter Roberts
Why do you want vanilla if you don't want vanilla?
Justin Sullivan
Stuff like this Like, actual quality of life shit and things that mods already do but were implemented into the game (like quest tracking etc)
Kevin Ortiz
I want an MMO that requires grouping and communication to get meaningful shit done, because it's challenging.
I don't want the rest of the broken shit that used to come with it.
Oliver Mitchell
Because I enjoy the focus on co-operating with others, WPVP, slow leveling, travel being slow, etc.... But I also enjoy it when I see people not playing the same 5 specs everywhere I go. It's still fucking Vanilla, the features are still the same. Balance should always be accepted.
Lucas Sullivan
This guy is right.
They just need to tweak fucking dps/mana costs by 10-15% for boomkins and other retarded specs and it will be WoW 2.0, flawless
Julian Bell
gee if you dont find it fun why dont you not play it?
revolutionary concept right? You even have nu-wow where that wont happen!
But no instead you'll act like a fucking woman, ruining someone elses fun to make it fit you then barely caring about it
Hudson Scott
You are not getting any changes or improvements at all. You asked for vanilla, and now you're getting it, including all of the many things that you hate.
David Collins
Still better than Legion and whatever they're going to come up with for the new expansion.
I just don't see a reason to leave it as is when it could be a lot better with pretty minimal changes.
Jose Davis
I'm 100% no one enjoys it when a rogue follows them around sapping them to the point where they are incapable of doing anything to counter it. It's like you enjoy eating shit.
Christopher Rodriguez
If Ret could actually cast Exo more then a handful of times before getting OOM it would actually be a solid spec in Naxx
Carson Sanders
Here's a question that I don't see posted a lot.
How does everyone feel about more, new content being added to classic WoW?
OSRS has new content coming in still but keeping in the fashion of OSRS. They even poll the shit to see what we want.
How would you feel about it?
Personally, I'd be down for it. I want to go back, but I also want new content to look forward to but keeping with the aspects of Vanilla WoW and older MMO's in general.
Camden Gutierrez
No changes at all. What the fuck is wrong with you?
Its like faggots on Sup Forums wanting to change "its okay to be white". Missing the point so fucking badly is fucking retarded. I can't fathom that anyone with a sentient mind would be so fucking stupid.
Gabriel Ross
well you're wrong, for a start
there are ways to counter that for another thing
then dont fucking play it then
Hunter Sanders
>there are ways to counter that for another thing Please enlighten me.
Brayden Hughes
Here's the thing, despite many of us not wanting any changes, we all know grubby ActiBlizzard is gonna step in and make them anyway. Realistically, what can we expect WILL happen? My guess: PvP balance for cc, group quest looting, dot timers and enemy cast bars, dual-spec, class balance, lfg, lvl 20 mounts. Oh god, we're not getting vanilla are we?
Aiden Perez
They'd have to rebalance literally of it, but I've seen it done with some success for other games.
Adrian Walker
graphics update should be added and there is literally no reason why it shouldnt be
Adam Brown
I just want modern graphics. I can't go back and play old wow, it was so ugly
Gavin Butler
>PvP balance for CC No >Group quest looting That would be nice >DoT Timers People use addons for that anyway >Dual Spec Leaning no on this one, but eh >Class Balance It would be nice to have specs that aren't completely fucking useless, but I wouldn't want any major changes or reworks to do it >LFG No >Level 20 mounts No
Levi Kelly
No. Blizzards current models aren't fucking garbage. Look like literal disney characters. Vanilla's had a charm to it.
Michael Cox
or just include TBC in this "Classic" mode TBC refined a lot of stuff and fixed a lot of the most glaring class issues of classic, like hybrids being shit in every spec that isnt healer
Aiden Hughes
No reasonable change is possible because the entire concept of vanilla servers is unreasonable. Any improvements would drive away the target audience, who have bad taste/low IQ and want the game to be bad.
Zachary Brooks
No it didnt, it was like looking at a 240p resolution youtube video whenever you were playing. You couldn't see how shit it looked because you couldn't even get a clear picture/
If anything, maybe an option to upgrade the models/terrain. Only reason not to is so you third worlders can still run it on a toaster
Liam Williams
Fuck that, Outland killed vanilla zones, and flying mounts/arena killed world pvp
Jonathan Campbell
As someone who raided in vanilla WoW as a druid, you were a resto druid, or you weren't in the fucking guild you faggot holy shit respec into something fucking useful jesus christ
Luke Perez
I loved wotlk because at that time I was so geared on my ret pally to just fly up to someone and kill them in one second while I parachuted down to the ground
Angel Sanchez
vanilla wow is so fucking shit only 6 truly viable classes and only 1 way to play them even without the bugged terrible talent trees fuck off muh nostalgia retard
James Parker
This was taken on Elysium before it closed, Vanilla WoW looked fine.
Jackson Lewis
The only acceptable change is that they make PVP trinkets for all classes break all CC. Instead of it breaking 3 types of CC different for each class.
Jayden Watson
old orgrimmar was better but its clear your brain has been rotten by your addiction
Owen Peterson
>Playing druid at all in Vanilla
Sounds like you need to go back to retail bud
Warrior Rogue Warlock Mage Priest only
Andrew Murphy
I'd honestly love to see old orgrimmar with current graphics. I'd also love to see all the retextured armor, because a lot of it just looked like trash
Grayson Parker
That really dark night thing they added as a darkmoon faire item in Legion. They should make that permanent in classic. It looked really good, and the nights could stand to be a bit darker.
Jackson Murphy
Not bringing paladins for blessings. Why even roll ally w/o salv, kings, might every raid.
Nicholas Garcia
You seriously enjoy those animatronic character models? I guess textures could be improved. But visual changes should be optional. Also no soundtrack changes whatsoever.
Nathan Hughes
What kind of person are you
A. No changes whatsoever B. Bugfixes but nothing else C. QoL changes. IE, lower respec costs D. Flavor additions. Updated graphics, transmogs. Nothing that affects balance E. Buffing/nerfing and adding new mechanics
Cooper Moore
E. But don't group new mechanics with buffing/nerfing. I just want numbers to be adjusted so I can tank as a bear druid.
Wyatt Moore
A, and lets have rolling talents as well.
Ethan Richardson
Increase the draw distance
Isaac Young
Changes are inevitable and I hope the only changes that are made are regarding the graphics. I'd really like to see vanilla WoW in HD.
Ian Sanchez
B. But implement modern day graphics options. I'm not talking updating textures and animations and shit, just give it proper playability on modern PCs.
Alexander Sullivan
I'm an idiot, wasn't exporting these at full size.
Brayden Foster
OK FAGS! I personally would love if they pull a OSRS thing where they make new content that keeps the style and design feel of Vanilla.
That being said, i really hope this takes off and maybe we can have legacy servers for the expansions. I would love a TBC server.
Alexander Baker
>balance towards classes, so raiding with things like elemental, prot pallys, guardians is viable and classes like rogue can't sap forever >prot paladins
gratz you just significantly nerfed aoe encounters for alliance
Chase Edwards
would be neat if they allowed you to carry on your progression to a new server which includes BC content while keeping the vanilla server
but that is thinking that will lead to disappointment. Maybe if Legacy is popular enough, though.
James Rogers
ADD GOBLINS
Nolan Gray
Me too. But I believe what they're doing is making servers that go through cycles, vanilla will be around for like a year then it will change to TBC then wotlk, etc... Don't like that though, would prefer seperate servers and blizzard adds content that the community votes on.