>earn $5 hour for 8 hour work >mfw a single game would cost me one day salary >90% goes if salary goes to the rent Jew, food and bills >game companies still wonder why people pirate
Believe me I would buy games if I could afford them. But why don’t they just price games depending on a country’s average wage? $40 in America is like a small fortune in countries like eastern Europe and Asia
Hudson Hall
either leave the third world country you live in or get a better job.
Fucks sake I'm pretty sure gold farming in Runescape makes more money than $5 an hour.
Henry Sanchez
Why don't you earn more?
Robert Brooks
>but they wouldn't give me my money back! >they said THEY wanted it!
Daniel Lopez
even if i was the richest man in the world i still wouldnt buy ea and ubishit
Luis Wright
Maybe you wouldn't have such a problem if you didn't work for below minimum dumbass.
Joshua Richardson
They do, but your country probably isn't considered relevant enough to make a company research you and determine a good price.
Plus American communists would just go and buy your cheaper games anyway because Americunts love to LARP as poor people.
Angel Thomas
You have my sympathies OP, but seeing how low hour wages are in some countries make me glad I draw porn on the internet for USD
Nolan White
>>mfw a single game would cost me one day salary
So what? How many video games a year do you need to buy? You are an enormous fucking brat.
Nolan Brown
>$40 in America is like a small fortune Good one OP you fucking poorfag piece of shit ,maybe you shoulda dedicated yourself to something and studied more
Adrian Foster
>game companies still wonder why people pirate Why do you think things should be priced just so you can afford them? That isn't how it works, you save up for the things you want to buy.
Xavier Lee
>complains about $5 an hour nigga, in my country $3.5 an hour is considered good wtf
Carson Brooks
so this...... is the power..... of American education...... wow.....
Andrew Nelson
>Made shit wages when I was a teen >Was forced to deal with literal poverty-tier bullshit like living off of $500 a month and had to get a roommate >Worked and worked, pulled myself up by my fingers until nothing left but bone >Realized I didn't want to live this life and buckled down >Went back to school, applied for grants and scholarships >Busted fucking ass at my job, got a new job, busted ass there, made my way through the ranks >Ditched the roommate because he was a huge cunt anyways >Now making $17/hr while getting a sweet $10k a semester in grants and scholarships with med school just around the corner >Just bought a new car
You either make it or break it. You have the power to make things better and have to be headstrong enough to do it.
Cameron Robinson
I’m from Bangladesh and $1 an hour is the standard we pay our employees
John Parker
Im a canadian engineer making 120ky,alls i do is approve schematics in my own house
Angel Gutierrez
Federal minimum wage in USA is $7.25. You can't be paid less than this unless you live in an absolute shit state that has sub clauses for it.
Nolan Gonzalez
No you didn’t stop lying on the internet
Kevin Torres
amazing how an engineer can lack simple reading comprehension
Daniel Cox
Explain
Robert Sanchez
Maybe your too poor to play the big name games?
I mean, I would love to live in a big house, but I cant afford one with my current salary, so will have to live without unless I can start making more.
Liam Rivera
>$40 in America is like a small fortune in countries like eastern Europe and Asia 40 USD is lot in poorer countries, but retailers often don't balance these prices accordingly
Asher Reed
I assume he meant in lieu of actual expenses, because otherwise it's pretty much the case with any job. I earn roughly $120 a day after tax. But more than half of that goes to insurance, gasoline, food, rent, bills, etc. OP, you're entitled as fuck if you legitimately think games need to cost less.
Mason Hughes
What does that have to do with american education,me being an engineer and me saying that 40$ is chump change regardless of region
Mason Cruz
>I'm a fat lazy neet with an extremely ambiguous and easily exploited """"""""""""disorder"""""""""""", there's no way anyone else could possibly have a better life than me
Yeah I did nerd, fucking go outside sometime
Jeremiah Fisher
To be fair, by the time you balance wages, inflation, and currency values, almost every first-world country is identical. Only third-world shitheaps get the raw deal. But they've got more important things to worry about, like government corruption, cartels, rapists, looting, etc.
Brandon Bennett
because you instinctively quoted "$40 in America is like a small fortune" completely changing the context of the words, I assume only an american could be this retarded but I guess Canadians can be too, and I'm amazed that someone as thick as shit like yourself managed to become an engineer
Blake Torres
>can't afford one video game >can afford to uproot his life and move to a different country Rly makes u think
Owen Russell
hes right you know
Chase Collins
And i thought i have it bad with my 13€/h
Brayden Adams
I dont know what you want me to write you man 40$ is a poor mans fortune,thats that you stupid retard
Luis Thompson
Can we talk about regional pricing outside NA/EU ?
Why do certain publishers try to inflate their price from what Steam has already set? Like 40%-50% higher (and in cases of 2K, Beth, Ubi, 100%)? Don't they know the REASON why those prices exist?
Lucas Lee
>40$ is a poor mans fortune yes that is the point, some countries are poor, well done, you managed to get there in just over 30 posts
Matthew Watson
I made $3/hour more than you doing unskilled labor at Harley Davidson. If that doesn't make you realize the economy is shit and unfair for the average person, you're too far gone.
Brody Nelson
$5 an hour? not a burger but is that even legal?
Hudson Reed
some countries don't have minimum wage some FIRST WORLD countries don't have minimum wage
Nolan Sanders
>because you instinctively quoted "$40 in America is like a small fortune" completely changing the CONTEXT of the words
I dont get it,are you and me just agreeing with OP because i never,i dont even. go to sleep you high fuck
Cooper Bennett
In USA, yes that's illegal. Federal minimum wage 7.25, and only under some very weird restrictions in a small number of states is it legal to have your wage be less than federal minimum wage.
Benjamin Morales
Goddamn, you're fucking dumb.
Jace Hughes
I fucked up on loans when I was 17. I'm 55k in debt, paying 700 a month, with like 8 years to go.
I got my bachelors of science and I run the xray dept on 3rd shift for more money, but I'm just spinning my tires. I make the same amount I spend each month. I'm single, I've got no money, and I'm miserable. I live in a shitbox apt, and I drive a '95 that leaks power steering fluid like a bastard.
I'm applying for a job at a different hospital. Right now I'm making 26 an hour for 32 hours a week, there I'd be making 30 for 40 hours a week. It could mean the difference between me getting drunk and walking out into a blizzard this winter, and having a life and maybe starting anew.
Adrian Reed
>save up shekels >only buy hacked consoles/hackable consoles Problem solved.
Brayden Kelly
I make 25 dollars an hour sitting at a reception desk browsing Sup Forums and the state pays for my university.
>You either make it or break it. Bullshit. I did nothing to deserve my objectively better life than yours just as you did nothing to deserve your objectively better life than some third world shitter.
It takes a village to raise a child.
Gabriel Ramirez
migrate to Europe also pirate everything, even free games
Alexander Hernandez
No you didn't. Quit lying on the internet.
Blake Anderson
If you make absolutely no payments on a debt for several years, they have to declare it a loss. Your credit will be ruined worse than a bankruptcy, but it's an option.
Jason Ortiz
>Everyone is a physicist waiting to happen who just hasn't had a chance to spread their wings! There is NO SUCH THING as people being lazy or abusing systems!!
No
I live in buttfuck nowhere Indiana and we have homeless shelters that let you shower and borrow suits for job interviews, you can get food stamps and unemployment if you are willing to put in a little bit of effort, and the problem is that nobody fucking wants to.
Samuel Nelson
Explain to me in five sentences or less what structural unemployment is.
If you can't do this I am going to ignore every post you make.
Jayden Anderson
>But why don’t they just price games depending on a country’s average wage?
Because it's 2017 and everyone would easily be able to buy out an entire country's stock of a title before it actually hits store shelves. The cheapest countries would never have copies for their own civilians.
Zachary Gomez
now you got him, there's no way the average joe knows how to use google
Landon Stewart
>renting with a job below minimum wage I know this is bait but come on.
Connor Davis
I think they'd garnish my wages, and just take the 700 straight out of my paycheck with a 200 dollar fee slapped on top.
Im not really going to kill myself, though. Because if I did, my debt would go to my parents.
I did take out a life insurance policy that would cover it, though.
Colton Sullivan
Okay,im wrong,youre right.
Christopher Morgan
The point isn't whether or not he knows what it is, the point is to enter it into the discussion as a topic.
Cameron Reyes
lots of people come from broken families
Caleb King
You're a fucking moron spreading facebook-tier bullshit.
My friend's mom is one of those fucking morons who gets like twenty credit cards and maxes them all out while declaring bankruptcy every five years or so and they finally dragged her ass through the ringer and sued her for everything she had.
Gavin Wilson
What't the point of that minimum wage law then?
Chase Hill
If they only supplied the singular voice option per country, maybe it would work. However, that would mean less money.
Samuel Campbell
If everybody was rich, nobody would be rich. Not everybody can make it big. It's mostly luck. I'm lazy as fuck and ended up making more than you.
Christian Allen
They can't do that. Only the government can.
Christopher Cooper
>claims to have studied enough to be an engineer >types his posts like an absolute retard
Nice education, kid.
John Perry
Is that why so many Russians still play Counter Strike?
Brody Green
I think half my loans are from the government.
Jayden Bailey
That's not even close to the same thing.
Robert King
This whole threads a bait thread
William Stewart
And this whole board is a bait board.
Noah Moore
Fuck off we already have too many brown parasites here as it is.
t. first world
Luis Richardson
>this the type of person to spam PC master race what's your pc build anyway
Christian Moore
I know you're talking out of your ass. Unless you went to UofT and cozied up to an exec on Bay St there is no chance you're making 120k starting no matter what type of eng you studied. You're making 70k max and that's if you're lucky.
Angel James
A single game costs me 4 days of work and I don't pirate. I never buy full-price as well.
Ayden Watson
Kill yourself.
Angel Foster
>tfw want a good paying job but don't want to waste time on the college jew
Julian Sullivan
Get a trade. Fixing air conditioners will net you close to 300 an hour in some cases.
Thomas Diaz
>Fixing air conditioners will net you close to 300 an hour in some cases.
Adam Cruz
He's confusing how much you charge the customer with how much you get paid.
I'm billed at 550 an hour but half of that goes directly to the company, not to me, and some of my cut goes to my 'supervisor'.
Lincoln James
>i have literally never looked into moving at all
literally just steal enough for a plane ticket
Thomas Baker
>Tfw learning carpentry >Working with dad making 10$ an hour
The thing I hate about it is that it makes life feel pointless.
You don't have to talk to anyone, but the problems you do solve are terribly simple, and you do it over and over.
Juan Morris
Welcome to life. Unless you can get $100k to learn something harder, you're stuck with idiots. You'll eventually learn they think those problems are hard too.
Dominic Lopez
well obviously im not a fucking STARTING engineer and ive invested heavily in diamond mining drills in nunavut.
Xavier Miller
>idiot "engineer" gets btfo
kek I really hope you're just shitposting and you're not really this stupid
Jordan Wilson
>Summer comes around >Everyones air con breaks >You make out that you are super busy so you charge them 150+ for a minor fix because of call out fees
If you work for a company which installs large air cons and maintains them they also get you to do interstate work which adds either huge hours in overtime or extra wages.
Just like if you are an electrician, you get 50 bucks for putting a light switch half the time. Which is actually $10 for supplies (if that), 10 minutes of labor. So your job for that day is rock up, tell them "yeah I guess" and give them a rant about how studs are going to make this harder, go pop up to the shop and get a chocolate milk, come back with the "equipment" and then charge $35/h for labor (more if it is a rich area) and then $15 for (parts). All finished in about 30-40 minutes and head off to the next spot.
It's so fucking easy to start your own business. If you are a blue collar worker with a "supervisor" then you are actually fucking retarded. The most you ever do for someone else is subcontract out or get paid to do extremely niche work which again highly paid. Then even with that last one you get them to pay you for training which costs 1000's and the jump to another company for an extra 15k a year.
Hunter Sanchez
>You will never go down the poop-shoot in nunavoot
Austin Myers
>It's so fucking easy to start your own business. But 80% of all small businesses eventually go under. Starting your own business is pretty much suicide.
Caleb Cook
>If you are a blue collar worker with a "supervisor" then you are actually fucking retarded. I'm a solicitor.
>It's so fucking easy to start your own business Harder to keep it open.
Nicholas Garcia
So you got yourself into debt to get a better wage but I'll be paying that debt for the rest of your life so all that hard work was for nothing but debt
Samuel Campbell
>Just do sub-contracting, bro >You'll get all of your work by word of mouth, and you'll be rich!
It's best to just get in with a company and have steady work.
Robert Morris
>40$ is chump change regardless of region Thats objectively wrong.
Leo Martinez
Carpentry is a pretty good chill job my man. Think of it this way, having that trade is going to be fantastic for job security. You can branch out from that if you want and use your tools to make avant garde bedside tables for rich hipsters at 4k a pop after you slap some dark stain on or learn to mold a bit of acrylic with it. Then you can also use that money to have a secure footing while you head to a college with carpentry jobs keeping you afloat. Then once you finish your degree you have life skills and understand a days work. I see so many engineers and other people fresh from college who are so green because they don't understand the world and recruiters will recognise this.
Just put in the effort man and you will come out fine. Life isn't easy but it goes smoothly if you plan accordingly.
Gabriel Perry
>all that work for 17/hr you could just push carts around at costco for like 14 an hour
Jack Scott
>reading comprehension
Owen Richardson
A country's minimum wage is -usually- tied to its cost of living, so countries with high minimum wages usually have retarded living costs
Aaron Kelly
>Tfw everyone wants to ruin my beautiful skin
I'll never take a job like that if I have to stand in the sun 24/7.
Evan Baker
1/5? Fuck man those are good odds. I'm happy to be part of that 20% then. I'd still be fighting if the odds were 1%. Plus I'm sure if you take into account those stupid meme businesses then the odds are much more likely to be in your favor. You can quit before you even start but sounds like a good way to be a loser in life tbqh.
It isn't hard to manage your own business. At all. Sure if you setup to fail, don't branch out and don't put the effort in to establish yourself then yeah. If you aren't willing to travel for work you will also fail. Trying hard is part of life and if OP is complaining about getting $5-10 for doing mindnumbing shit then maybe a bit of struggle will make them enjoy it all especially when it pays off.
Don't get me wrong you should definitely start somewhere and use your time working for a company to establish your network, but taking a risk is perfectly fine because the pay off is so good. Those company jobs are a dime a dozen especially with everyone trying to get white collar jobs. Then you also do a bit of that contracting and side jobs, those side jobs turn in to full time gigs and then you are at the stage where you get a friend to work because you can't juggle all the work, then it's a business.
You guys sounds like you have set yourselves up to fail and just go through the motions in life. Sounds depressing as fuck.
Gavin Baker
this
Jackson Sanders
>Make $560 a month because third world country >Can afford games because Steam third world discount Keeping overhead low by living with parents. It's manageable, you just have to suck it up
Brody Ward
I think you should post more pictures of Donald Duck, they were making your arguments really compelling.
Ryan Mitchell
>make $1000 a month in unemployment >have job lined up making double that in a few months
Easton Adams
He says 90% of the money goes to other things so he can only save up $40 every ten days.
OP's problem isn't that videogames cost money, it's that anything costs money. He's poor.
Benjamin Rodriguez
The issue with hoping for a side-job to turn into a full-time job is that if it quits you're fucked.
I've been in houses where it looked nice to work, but the home-owners had a failing marriage that was strained by spending so much money on me, so I had to stop working there before I got hurt in the process. Around 3 weeks after I quit, they divorced.
None of it is stable. Side-work is generally a one-off deal, and you should treat it like what it is.
Jeremiah Moore
You don't pay grants and scholarships back you sperg. And if you have even the slightest grasp on how to save money you won't be paying off college debt long at all.
Elijah Moore
>It isn't hard to manage your own business. Then why do between 80 and 90 per cent of them fail?
>"because those people are retarded" At a certain point you need to stop pretending that something that most people cannot do is easy. That's not how a relative descriptor like easy or hard works.
>"but i did it and i found it easy" Then why do you keep talking about how you're "trying hard" and your "struggle?" It's pretty clear that you don't even consider it easy yourself. The simple fact that you didn't even know that the vast majority of small businesses don't even last a year only goes to show how worthless, insular, and detached your "worldly experience" has proven to be.
>Trying hard is part of life Only if you're bad at it. Some people are lucky enough to inherit copious intelligence and cruise through a state funded postgraduate law degree and land in a cushy upper-middle-class life through minimal effort. The difference between me and you is that I don't pretend the career path that was correct for me is equally correct for every other person on the planet - because I know that not everyone has my skills or my good fortune.