Transgender character

>transgender character
>it's okay when japan did it

you forgot
>isn't shoved down your throat
>has an actual character that doesn't revolve around being a tranny
>don't even find out until it's told to you
>is never brought up again because the character has more important qualities than being a tranny

This is the shit western games never understand when it comes to writing a "minority" character

have you heard from Atlus " HEY GUY, WE GOT A FUCKING TRANSGENDER CHARACTER IN THE GAME!!!!!!!! " ?

Because...
>Done it for decades
>Doesn't force the fact in your face
>Games aren't marketed as being diverse
>Games are actually good

So Sup Forums, who's your favorite 'diverse' character?

Don't forget
>is actually attractive

It's okay because Japan is a completely different culture devoid of SJW bullshit. When they make a black character it's because they wanted to make a black character. Do you think Nintendo gave a shit what Tumblr thought when it showed Marina?

That developer is degenerate as fuck, like every developer that somehow has to do with Sony.

That's how the degeneracy and propaganda always manifests itself together.

Stay away from Sony.

Asian traps are fine

you're damn right it's okay when japan does it

>different culture devoid of SJW bullshit.
lol

more like edicka bender

not a tranny.

canon herm.

because Sup Forums is full of weebs and weebs love anime dick. Also she's actually a good character and her being trans isn't the only thing about her character.
There's nothing wrong with trans or gay characters, I don't think Sup Forums hates them because they're gay, most of them have shitty writing. There are some good written gay characters in western games too, Arcade gannon from new vegas is gay and Sup Forums mostly likes him

Don't say Japan when it's just Playstation shit.

close enough

>actual character instead of virtue signalling for brownie points
gee, I wonder why?

This.

And this.

What is this '' not forced down your throat '' stuff people keep saying when it's about gays and trannies? What is forced down your throat vs not forcing down ones throat? Give it to me straight, and give me examples, because this sit keeps getting brought up without anyone actually explaining what it really means.

west does it to pander, get PR, brownie points and beg for sales from people who will never buy their product to begin with

japan does it as an afterthought that's just kind of there in the background and doesn't matter kind of like how in real life it shouldn't matter who is what.

> she states in a clear-cut relationship, she'd pick Orlando, but she wouldn't marry him. She feels Jonny would treat her right, but she doesn't like the idea of being tied down to one guy

>She's enamored with the idea of powerful women.

>In school, Erica's birth name was Eric. At some point in time, Erica underwent MTF surgery.

>and she is also in her 30s (LGBT people are often told being LGBT is "just a phase" or they will "grow out of it" which can be very offensive)

Jesus Christ, those shit games are literally the epitome of Tumblr SJW cancer.

Somehow Sony even manages to infest all other Japanese devs and pulls them into their SJW insanity.

>Atlus writing
Most players will never even find out that Erica is a tranny and simply think of her as a likable character
>Bioware writing
"Hello there, I am transgender, how are you today?"

In short: It's OK when Japan does it.

lol @ the mad nintenbro with the sony bogeyman posts. don't you have school sonny?

Not a trap, asstard.

nin10yerold

take that word filter /nintendogaf/

probably its like nobody wants to be forced into watching a serious gay romance or monologue about it in games

tho i dont know much about it cause i dont play western AAA crap

It's not a boogeyman when it's a fucking fact at hand.

They don't like when a big 3d shemale cock comes out of the screen and throatfucks you leaving feminine semen dribbling down your chin.

>can't even get bogeyman right

That's because Japan do it without the viraling LGBT bullshit unlike the western world.

Doesn't Chihaya actually not give a shit about that stuff and just says it because she wants to steal money from people?
I'm pretty sure that happens yet no one ever brings that up

What the fuck? And this trash gets permanently shilled on Sup Forums?

What the fuck are brownie points, user?

his first line isnt "HEY EVERYBODY IM GAY" so he already was a good character

Boogeyman is the more common American spelling, you brainlet.

>New game announced from western AAA studio
>almost all coverage for the game is about how diverse it is
>characters in said game make it apparent they are LGBT through multiple dialogs
>game generally ends up being shit because the focus was spent on trying to make the story/characters/etc diverse and not in engaging game play or mechanics

Great example and that one faggot who kept going on about "White People" on twitter.

>Sony
Japan as a whole has being doing this for decades in gaming. Even when it was new it wasn't forced feeling as it is when western developers do it.

SEETHING

> she

You know, he just looks really puffy.

>people defend this

>SJW
You already lost my friend.

Yeah. I'm pretty sure it was aimed against SJWs and Joker even has some pretty funny lines against it iirc.

its okay when japan does it

Why are the Brits so bad at English? They can't even speak their own language correctly. Only Americas in certain regions natively speak/enunciate the English language correctly (Ohio & Willamette Valley regions, etc.).

cringy
you try too hard

can anyone explain the difference and why japan is far more superior on making a transgender video game character compared to western video game?

Because it isn't the defining character trait/first thing they say to you
IE Mass effect Andromeda

>draw a girl
>call it a man

Sup Forums sure is in here.

because all of those characters just enjoy their lives
this one is too

user,

>>game generally ends up being shit because the focus was spent on trying to make the story/characters/etc diverse and not in engaging game play or mechanics

is this what people think? i didn't know writers worked on gameplay.

It's true though, ask any linguist or pick-up any book on the subject. The English cannot speak their own language correctly, not a single one of their many regional dialects/accents do. The only places on Earth where you'll find people who speak English correctly is in America.

>people getting upset about traps and trannies
>on Sup Forums
You don't belong here.

Time, money, marketing, etc spent on it instead of actually making a game.

I didn't say writers were developers.

>tripfag doesn't understand the difference between marketing focus and actual budgeting
Don't let facts or common sense get in the way of your narrative, user. That's the American way.

this

t. tranny

There is shittons of strong women and plain gay /lesbian pushing in western games, but I've never seen anyone even talk about an existing male trans character in a western game.

People just fucking love to hate these people and they like to pretend that they are already over-supported and should deserve less.

While I don't give a shit about politics I think they are alright ideas for interesting game characters. Lot's of Japanese games have cool intersex characters.

Yet he's from Russia, and you're from India.

...

How often do developers, especially western ones, tell you exactly how much they spent on developing and marketing separately? Not many, because it's more impressive to say "We spent 5m on this game" than "We spent $5 on it and $4,999,995 on a shit writing staff and marketing the game."

>Russia
Nani?

Western game tranny
>Just brings up that they are trans in the first 5 seconds of an introduction.
>They think tranny people actually talk like this in real life.
>Ugly as shit, 0 effort of trying to pass.

VS

Japan trannys
>Has a goal to do. Good or evil. This overshadows the fact that they are trans.
>They don't have to make there entire focus on who they want to fuck and if they put on high heels in the morning.
>Can actually talk like a normal person would.
I think Japan has you beat westcucks.

>saying something gay has been “shoved down your throat”

You're both shitting up the already-flushed thread.

So really you don't know either how much money is put into making things gay and diverse, so you have no leg to stand on your '' ALL MONEY FROM GAMEPLAY GOES TO DIVERSITY!!!! '' assumption.

>How often do developers, especially western ones, tell you exactly how much they spent on developing and marketing separately?
Every single game because that information is given in investor meetings.

You're right that marketing ends up taking money away from development - you're wrong that any game wastes a significant amount of development funds on "diversity" that would've otherwise gone to important development. That statement doesn't even make fucking sense.

Western games suck because publishers want to pay devs pennies, want nothing but massive mass-market successes, and are obsessed with design-by-committee shit. Marketing focusing too hard on strange points of focus like how many gay characters there are (EA!) is just a small symptom of a larger problem in management -and not one relating to "SJW's" or any other Sup Forums shit.

Think about this, in new vegas you only discover that arcade is gay if you try to romance him, and in the end him being gay is only 5% of his character, his story with the enclave plays a much larger part in his charater.

Now look at steve from mass effect, everything that comes from his mouth is about how he is gay and how much he likes dudes, and the game will scream at you to go after steve, hell his romamce option is tied to the paragon system, which is stupid beyond bellief.

Arcade is well written and his sexuality is not forced on you, and the fact that he is gay is not the only thing about him, good old steve on the other hand.....

Arcade is the way he is because the writer wanted to create a good character, steve exist just so bioware can win points with the tumblr friends.

no. have you ever played those japnaese games?
just play it.
tho this one is pretty difficult compared to western aaa games

As opposed to your extremely on-topic posts that have added so much to the conversation

>>Atlus writing
>Most players will never even find out that Erica is a tranny
I finished the game twice and only found out on Sup Forums

>>Bioware writing
>"Hello there, I am transgender, how are you today?
Literally this, and you can replace Bioware with any thing made in the west

The problem is western devs only have 1 example i can think of a gay man done right(other than Gay Tony but you want a "positive" character right?).
I don't care if trans people are in the games. My focus is on badly written characters that they push.
I will give you an example of a gay man in games done right. That side character in The Last of Us. They game takes place in a post apocalyptic zombie game. You meet this guy. and he gives you a helping hand. You go in to his house and if you look around you can see a picture of him with his boyfriend. In a Zombie infested place in what context does he have to bring up "oh i like to suck big cocks" like what western devs do most of the time. Fucking ME:A had a character announce he was trans as soon as you fucking meet him. It is bad fucking writing what person does this? Do you casually reveal details about your private life to people you meet first time? That's why i can't stand western devs. Only skilled enough to give them a shirt on with their minority status printed on it.

>Literally this, and you can replace Bioware with any thing made in the west
Except for the aforementioned New Vegas. The two gay romance options never bring it up unless you attempt to romance them or dig really far into their conversation trees.

Bioware actually pissed off the T community with Andromeda because apparently a trans character points out their status and "dead name" in your first interaction.

Turns out fujoshi don't actually have the best grasp of how LGBT people act.

>actually not give a shit about that stuff and just says it because she wants to steal money from people
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I remember a bit of a bitchfest ensued when someone tried to shoehorn in someone with gender dysphoria in a setting where you can just magically change your gender whenever you want. Was it a Baldur's Gate expansion or something?

>when the futa is canon

Generally, the same thing can be said in life with any sexual deviant. It's when it becomes the core of who they are that it becomes intolerable. Western countries pander too much.

We just say some japanese word instead of "transgender" and pretend it's a different thing.
then it becomes a Sup Forums approved fetish.

It's the future, though. That sort of thing is common in 300 years.

Veronica was nice, and while her being a lesbian was actually relevant to her backstory, it wasn't shoved in your face, and there was more to her than "I'm a lesbian lol"

I don't get the bitching about that desu. You never do find out what's in the character's pants. For all we know she did magically transition. Or not, because magic isn't that cheap either.

Arcade being gay is a pretty big influence on his character, though. It's just that he acts like a closeted gay whereas Steve acts like a proud and out gay, as befitting their respective settings.

>It's when it becomes the core of who they are that it becomes intolerable
This so much. It's the same with furfag diapers, foot fags or Sup Forumstard racial cuck fetish.
Just keep that shit to yourself, nobody wants to know.

it's ok when i can jack off to it, and if you have a problem with that just hang yourself

If you don't find out, then what is the point of mentioning it at all?
"Hey guys, i'm consumed by darkness"
"Hey guys, i'm black"
"Hey guys, i'm a dwarf that's always pissed off at everyone"
"Hey guys, i have a dick in my pants"
See how stupid it looks?

i have a problem with people jacking off to stuff and in the same breath being bigots about it.
just shows that you are a repressed faggot.

>If you don't find out, then what is the point of mentioning it at all?
It comes up in conversation.

It's a dick joke user. Don't take it too seriously.

>It comes up in conversation.
Yes, and what's the point if you don't actually find out what's in character's pants?

Good example of a tranny done right:
>She expresses interest in joining a women's wrestling team, which Vincent claims would be impossible. She misunderstands and says that she's strong, but Vincent explains they wouldn't let her in in the first place.
>She tells Vincent he needs to learn how a girl's heart works and how a woman is always hoping someone will come sweep them away. Vincent then comments that he'd be more convinced if a woman was telling him this.
>She begins to have nightmares, which are exclusively given to men.
There's nothing instrinsically wrong with featuring trannies, these people do exist and it's valid to address that fact. But you need to do it objectively if you don't want people to players angry at blatant propaganda. As you can see, the Nips have their heads on straight and (both through the protagonist and the ingame logic) rightly mock the idea that MTF trannies are actually female.

what are you going to do about it faggot lol

You learn something about the character?

Well and they make semi-humorous jokes about it throughout:
>Every older male character being rude to her when Toby is head over heels
>When Toby isn't around, the fellas mention he needs to find a girlfriend who ISNT Erica (not even the players knows she's a tranny yet)
>Orlando (or was it the other one) freaks out when they find out Toby fucked Erica the other night
>Erica mentions getting nightmares that are only supposed to affect men

It was really clever actually, I'm surprised I didn't pick up on it earlier

I think this guy just like lesbian lolis.

what the fuck am i gonna do about it?
drag you out of the closet myself or something?
it's your problem, faggot, not mine.

not him but you mean "trap"? japanese has some other alternative words too like otoko no musume

those are actually a different word and meaning from transgender, and a sort of jargon among nerds.

come and get me jackass

Check my previous examples then. It's pointless, shallow, andultimately devalues the character into a trope, a token. There's no point in having such a trait, it doesn't make the character better, or worse, or opens up a story path, or whatever. It's just a checkbox.

first of
>she
secondly he tricked a man into sodomy.if this was done in a western game you would cry rape.

The gender is an important part of every character so of course it will pop out in the game sooner or later. Now the difference between forced and not forced is this:
Forced = The character is shit, it was literally only put in the game for goodie points.
Not forced = The character being a tranny randomly pops up at a point that isn't the first time you meet them, shocks you for a second but the character moves on and has other qualities.