Last interview after blizzcon with Ion Hazzikotas
>World of Wacraft: Classic will take a lot of community feedback.
Dropped.
It was fun to think they'd bring Vanilla back, now it's over.
You just KNOW the furry retards will ask for pokemon battles, class balance and all of that nanny garbage.
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There where many major changes during vanilla, community can pick and choose. I guess nost faggots are afraid of anything different than 1.12 and 200% increased drop rates.
Alright so I've read a ton of threads on the wow forums, mmo champ and now some Sup Forums threads and are the changes that need to be made according to the overall classic community.
Many revisions done and things retracted.
>rebalance
>LFG tool most likely through addon
>better mail system
>no regreants
>60 minute buffs
>mage tables
>no more soul shards
>no hunter ammo
>itemization overhaul (no more paladins in cloth warriors in leather etc)
>updated models toggle *universally wanted
>Cheaper level 40 mount
>more quests, quest chains with no backtracking.
>AV timer
>more than 2 drops per boss
>reverse timewalking (modern day raids in vanilla)
>new raids later
>newer classes added in somehow *universally wanted
>achievements
>hunter pets immune to aoe from pve sources
>pvp system revamp (honor points some way to buy pvp gear)
>guild banks
>dual spec
>more graveyards
>improved AH
>aoe looting
>improved interface (autoloot options)
>more flight masters
>progressive patches from the start
What do you think, anything else I'm missing before we send this to blizz?
It's expected they'd add some of the quality of life functions to it, the game was pretty damn flawed then, and tedium isn't difficulty.
But when they want the community to chime in on what goes where you're opening the doors to reduce the server to what it currently is.
removal of pvp servers
Good. Vanilla was good in some ways but there are huge areas it could get improved on without ruining the experience. We already know it's going to have group finder which is a plus.
I know this is bait and a shitpost but I swear to fucking god if WoW Classic is anything other than vanilla with a toggle for updated graphics with newer models, textures, shaders, etc then I'm not touching it.
Link to interview?
So what? People would get tired of Blizzard's shit and go back to private realms again. What's the issue?
Yeah I think he means more, what from the patches does the community want, not, give us all current races and features but with a Classic ruleset. That would be dumb.
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It's impossible to find a compromise between "unrelentingly unfun travel and hassle that makes me waste my dollars", and "hand holding %200 exp armor that grows as you level so you never have to quest or battleground for armor. Can't decide if I like battlegrounds being only 5~ levels apart rather than the old 10~. maybe without BoA gear those 9 levels won't make such a big difference
there is literally nothing wrong with class balance
What I will accept
>fixing the bullshit debuff limit
>giving horde a threat reduction buff via totem (only reason they can't do as well as alliance)
>allowing high population servers via new technology so we can have a nos sized server of 10,000 people
But I know they won't stop there. They'll fuck it up somehow
would you guys be okay with class balance to make some specs viable like balance or ele shaman?
would you guys be ok with nothing being changed at all?
if no, go play retail.
Can I by lvls? I pay sub and not fare if I am locked out of raiding.
i would. then they'll branch off and make a "fixed-classic" with quality of life improvements.
>Class balance is bad
Kill yourself.
Pretty sure most of those people asking for 'changes' would die so fucking often during leveling they would just be fed up and go play Legion again.
If I am to play Classic, I am going to expect vanilla, no major changes, rebalances or any other shit.
I don't want them to "work" on things that don't need any.
It's okay, it was the literal history of the game that people remember playing and want to play again. You can't just change the flag, it's history.
I just don't understand how they can't make it poll based like OSRS.
Grow up manchild.
why do fucking fags always want to ruin something special? like fuck off if you don't like vanilla how it was don't come spewing with all your shit about balance this balance that.
Rock Paper Scissors was a big part of how I made my friends too. I don’t understand their double speak trying to add social features like communities then taking away actual game related interactions like buffs, which they said they’re putting back. I haven’t played the game in a long time but it seems like they try to reengineer the wheel too much.
Why are you blaming furries? Weebs are the casual fucks who want convinience
If you really want classic servers to be successful then you have to accept that things will need to change
You literally can't deny that
Have you seen some of the people on the official forums and mmo-champion? They hate the idea of classic servers so much that it's quite amazing. I wouldn't put it past them to try to ruin these new servers so much in an attempt to get people to return to live. I shit you not the same people also complained about adding seasons in Diablo 3, their reasoning being that they'd have a hard time finding people in public games. Yes, they wanted less content just so that they could be carried by others.
What does any of that have to do with furries
Then wtf is classic about it u mongrel
DoA
they'll make it not-vanilla and then say, when it fails, "you thought you did but you didn't"
OSRS is made by a group of B-team retards pussywhipped by reddit which proposes/votes on private server tier content. Either don't fuck with the game or get a dedicated group of developers who played/worked on classic WoW back in 2004. Letting your retarded playerbase decide the fate of the game was a mistake.
You guys don’t actually want actual Vanilla.
You think you do, but take it from someone that was into Everquest progression servers. You aren’t going to get an enjoyable experience with all of the design flaws still intact. You are just going to get a bunch of multi boxing man children that exploit every known flaw to completely ruin your experience.
>rebalance
Sure
>LFG tool
Would be nice. If I want to run a dungeon, it would be nice to see who also wants to run it before I start running to various cities spamming trade
>tfw I want to re-experience Vanilla with the same wonder I had as a twelve year old but min/maxing autists have refined everything down to a science
literally tens of thousands have played vanilla in the last 2 years on private servers and know exactly what they are getting, there is no 'think'
Nostalrius wasn't quite the same as vanilla either. For better or worse.
fuck it, they'll make a profit, what's the big god damn deal, bitch?
Nostalrius isn’t vanilla.
Like huuge population and dynamic spawn etc. Not blizzlike at all. They also nerfed mage and rogue dungeon gold grind.
STOP POSTING THIS SHIT
BLIZZARD WILL SEE IT AND GET THE WRONG IDEA
It should start at cataclysm since nobody cares about pre-cata wow.
you guys know alot of us have been playing private servers for years and still want this.....we are ok with all the bugs and bullshit aslong as we dont have to play with fucking chinks.
that being said i hope to god they change nothing
>allowing high population servers via new technology so we can have a nos sized server of 10,000 people
This is how nostalgia servers should work, IMO. OSRS has something along the lines of 60 or so Old School servers but all but 5 of them are perpetually under 500 out of a max of 2000. Condense that shit and make the world seem more lively, damn.
>rebalance
ok to extent (Giving pallies taunt, number of dots and hots on targets, no major class overhauls)
>LFG tool most likely through addon
NO
>better mail system
ok
>no regreants
NO
>60 minute buffs
NO
>mage tables
NO
>no more soul shards
NO
>no hunter ammo
NO
>itemization overhaul (no more paladins in cloth warriors in leather etc)
NO
>updated models toggle *universally wanted
ok
>Cheaper level 40 mount
NO
>more quests, quest chains with no backtracking.
ok
>AV timer
NO
>more than 2 drops per boss
ok
>reverse timewalking (modern day raids in vanilla)
NO
>new raids later
NO
>newer classes added in somehow *universally wanted
NO
>achievements
ok
>hunter pets immune to aoe from pve sources
NO
>pvp system revamp (honor points some way to buy pvp gear)
vanilla had this just not at release
>guild banks
ok
>dual spec
NO
>more graveyards
NO
>improved AH
NO
>aoe looting
NO
>improved interface (autoloot options)
ok
>more flight masters
NO
>progressive patches from the start
as in?
the private server community that wants this are used to playing with bugs and design flaws, most of us are used to this after playing pservers for 5 years AND WE STILL WANT CLASSIC
...
The main problem with dungeon finder is that it is cross server. Vanilla WoW didn't have cross server battlegrounds so all the servers had healthy PvP communities with server celebrities and rivalries and shit. It was only later on when they made battlegrounds cross server that these communities died. If dungeon finder was server specific, it would not kill server communities.
>rebalance
>no regreants
>mage tables
>no more soul shards
>no hunter ammo
>updated models
>Cheaper level 40 mount
>AV timer
>more than 2 drops per boss
>newer classes added in somehow
>hunter pets immune to aoe from pve sources
>pvp system revamp (honor points some way to buy pvp gear)
>dual spec
>more graveyards
>aoe looting
>more flight masters
>>World of Wacraft: Classic will take a lot of community feedback.
Isn't WoW: Classic already because of a lot of community feedback, namely the we want a vanilla server stuff?
Slower leveling, CC+aggro management in dungeons, server communities, no LFG
You can have all that and still do a 1.13 patch that lets paladins not be dress-wearing healbots
you people are melodramatic as fuck lol, just lighten up sometimes
>we need class balance in vanilla
Then go play legion smartass. See how you like that "balance".
Yes, but now the slippery slope begins son
OP how fucking dumb can you be?
>"World of Wacraft: Classic will take a lot of community feedback."
Why is that inherently on the side of people who want changes? YOU are part of the community too, YOU can feedback that you want a purist version.
Wanting servers to be on the 1,12 is the biggest slipper slop
Shit was less than 3 onths out and had nothing to do with actual vanilla experience, but most of retards knew about vanilla from it thanks to nostr and others fun servers
So we have people who actually think that it was possible to levl warrior outside of tank spec and kill mobs
>*plays legion*
oh wow this is way more balanced thanks for the tip. Can't wait until they balance classic too.
all classes are within 10% of each other in raids, all but two specs are viable in pvp and even they have comps that can be run to over 2400
you're actually right, vanilla sounds like garbage considering how few options and content there is
How can anyone want non-existent class balance? What the hell is making you hunger for the good old days of having 2/3 of the specs in the game be utterly useless?
reminder that Burning Crusade fixed a lot of problems, no one cannot refute this
>if you want the retailfags to accept classic then it will have to be rebalanced, 50s mounts at lvl 10, 4x xp, updated graphics, all the group finder shit, transmogs, and pokemon
but we don't need or want classic to be (((successful)))
Class poll, 3 days worth, get your shit counted or be a bitch.
at least this board has a general idea of what's useless and what's not
> OH NO they will balance and improve stuff like they did with each vanilla patch
> ITS NO LONGER VANILLA
the absolute state of nostalgiafags' intelligence
>allowing high population servers via new technology so we can have a nos sized server of 10,000 people
as much of double edges sword the pop was on nost, i.e. devilsaur cartel, fighting for mobs in general, mats being hard as fuck to get like plaguebloom, i will admit it was fun to go no more than a minute at any time, in almost any corner of any zone, and there would be people there to either help you, or fuck you over, or for you to fuck over.
>strawpoll.me
>warrior is still >15%
Everybody wants to be a tank
>warrior top 1
>at least this board has a general idea of what's useless and what's not
Holy shit
Go back to the nostarious
Wotlk kids who never played during vanilla and think that nosttarious or others private servers that were based on the 1,12 are good representation how classic was.
My biggest fear that blizzard will actually listen people like that
either troll or undead rogue depending on how tryhard i want to be
can't wait to have extreme amounts of fun all the way to 60 and then get cucked out of every dungeon group/guild/raid and drop it and just pvp in greens and blues forever gimpedjust like i've always done
Alright so I've read a ton of threads on the wow forums, mmo champ and now some Sup Forums threads and are the changes that need to be made according to the overall classic community.
Many revisions done and things retracted.
>rebalance
>LFG tool most likely through addon
>better mail system
>no regreants
>60 minute buffs
>mage tables
>no more soul shards
>no hunter ammo
>itemization overhaul (no more paladins in cloth warriors in leather etc)
>updated models toggle *universally wanted
>Cheaper level 40 mount
>more quests, quest chains with no backtracking.
>AV timer
>more than 2 drops per boss
>reverse timewalking (modern day raids in vanilla)
>new raids later
>newer classes added in somehow *universally wanted
>achievements
>hunter pets immune to aoe from pve sources
>pvp system revamp (honor points some way to buy pvp gear)
>guild banks
>dual spec
>more graveyards
>improved AH
>aoe looting
>improved interface (autoloot options)
>more flight masters
>progressive patches from the start
Anything else I'm missing before we send this to blizz?
I think we should start a petition for blizz to cancel vanilla. They're just going to ruin it bros.
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What is with all the druid hate? I loved my Druid in Vanilla, and people always wanted me sweet sweet innervate.
I'd accept some of the QoL changes in TBC so long as they don't touch the classes themselves.
Which is like buff durations, mage table, warlock "tables", and guild banks. Just tape a quest in for Mage and Lock table shit, like the level 60 Water quest, and Lock tables each cost 3-5 soul shards or something.
The only heretic "touch vanilla WoW" shit I'd respect is giving Druid OOC rez, niggers always get themselves murdered in the stupidest ways and waiting 6m for them to run back was a shit show. Part of the reason why people didn't want druid healers.
>strawpoll.me
>literally from best class to worst
why is Sup Forums so casual
Wotlk kids who only heard about druid from memes
Also sucked compared to the others healers until aq40 where became best after shaman
they should always keep a pure vanilla server up just for old times sake. if they want to do some balance changes and patch some QoL stuff in it should be a separate server
though its modern blizz so their idea of "Classic WoW" would probably copy/paste the old maps and quests back in, leave the classes as they are now and just put a level cap at 60. hell it will probably be integrated into the main game as a timewalking thing
After the Druid rework, swiftmend made them one of the most mana efficient healers in vanilla. Plus,it was always nice to have one kitty around for Leader of the Pack in raids.
They will and they won't.
On the one hand a level 40 vs a level 50 was a much more fair fight than it would be now, unless twinks. Because getting full level 50 gear at level 50 wasn't a reasonable expectation for one thing.
On the other hand, level cap for a battleground was usually enough to get the talent for that level which changed things dramatically. I PvPed as a mage and rogue back then and you bet your ass just having Pyroblast/Blastwave/Cold blood/etc made you a god among those that did not.
>After the Druid rework, swiftmend made them one of the most mana efficient healers in vanilla
I know
Wotlk kids doesn't and actually believe that he was just innorvate machine
It's same people who vote for warrior, shit was impossible and hardest class to level during 90% of vanilla lifetime, but they played on nostr that based on the 1,12 and think that it was a norm
It can't be done. Balance doesn't and never will exist in WoW. Vanilla was fine. Some classes were better at PVE some at PVP. Just leave it as it was.
>You literally can't deny that
Yes I can. You are wrong.
and people here spout the power of rogue and warlock which wasn't true until later in the expansion either, pvp of course
rogues were garbage in t1
It will be garbage without qol changes
Fuck off retail baby
Oh goodie, all the healers are at the bottom of the list. Guess I am going to need to do a lot of spamming to find one for Dungeons.
Stop fucking posting this! Every. Fucking. Thread!
Fuck..I mean if they are going to listen to anyone, I hope it's at least TOP NOTCH players
Rogues were Scissors from day 1. Locks became good with the deathcoil buff.
Why can't people just go play Legion if they want all these updated changes?
They don't want to play Vanilla, they just want to stop on the bandwagon, fucking faggot normies
>I want the true 100% classic experience!
>just not any natural patch progression that makes WoW bearable for more than 6 months
I will never understand the mentality of "The Nostfag"
Stop this spam, faggot.
Im one of those shamans. Ill be enhancent and theres not a damn thing you can do to stop me :^) healers dont need talents until level 60 content anyways, Ill spam CH and drop windfury/SoE totems the whole Zul'Farrak run
You only need one.
I have same question to the people who want latest patch for the vanilla servers.
1,12 very poorly represent actual classic experience
>want to get tank gear to tank
>no one wants to let me tank the instence because I don't have good enough gear
>no one wents to let me tenk the instence because I don't have good enough geer
heh.. nothing personel kid
Vanilla is stale as fuck, and shitty. It should have something new to draw veteran players in. Enhanced graphics would be a good start. The game has not held up. Class rebalanving would be good too , maybe now you can play that ret paladin or balance druid you always wanted to play but couldn't.