Let's talk about Dragon Age.
In my opinion the DA:I is criminally underrated. It wrapped together the storylines very tactfully, the gameplay was fun, and the ending was very satisfying as well. The companions and party members are written very decent too. Well. Minus Iron Bull, who has the personality and charm of a fucking tree stump.
But otherwise, they were very successful, in that they managed to elicit some very strong, if differing reactions in people.
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>Well. Minus Iron Bull, who has the personality and charm of a fucking tree stump.
Now you've done it.
You've awoken the autistic bara fags who will flood this thread defending him.
thats why you put him down when he betrays you
You forgot Sera my friend.
The game was SHIT was even worse in writing and story than DA2, at least DA2 tried to be different. DAI is simply a poor mans rehash of DAO. Prove me wrong, you can't
>You've awoken the autistic bara fags who will flood this thread defending him.
He's also a sleazy manwhore, absolutely disgusting. AIDS infested Qunari.
Sera is actually well written. She's a cunt. That's her thing. She was made to be hated, it's a perfectly valid way to use a character. As a hate sink.
I lost count how many times I wanted to smack her, or shank her, but I kept her around because sometimes she was funny. Also I enjoyed antagonizing her tremendously. Although not as much as Vivienne
I agree with pretty much everything you said, OP. Some good characters, playing a Mage was incredibly fun again, and the background lore (which has always been one of the best things about DA) was really interesting.
Fuck Vivienne, though.
>muh darling
Sera was written fine, she just isn't cute. That doesn't mean you have to like her.
>hate sink
>well written
Then why did I tell her to fuck off and get out of my inquisition? She's the worst character in dragon age and probably bioware history.
>Romance Cass
>Make he Divine
>Can't marry her
>game implies you're banging anyway
Should've made Top Lel the Divine if you wanted to marry best girl Cass, desu
>That good awful accent
I kicked her out the first chance I got
>gameplay was fun
Single player MMO is fun? Why?
>Then why did I tell her to fuck off and get out of my inquisition?
Because they were well aware that she is a polarizing character that not everyone would want to keep around.
Frankly I found Blackwall even more revolting and deplorable than Sera could ever be. Also Vivienne. Fuck that whore.
Can the Divine fuck someone? Cass strikes me as someone who wouldn't break a vow.
>the gameplay was fun
>someone else who doesn't like Vivienne
Fucking finally. I've been waiting all this time, every time I bring it up all I get is Vivienne apologists. You have good taste, user.
>Vivienne claims to be a super-influential political operator
>offers you literally fucking nothing
>on top of that, for some godforsaken reason Bioware decided you can't send her away, so if you make the mistake of recruiting her you're stuck with her
Because you didn't want to put up with a hate sink and she's one of the optional characters you could actually tell to fuck off?
>She's the worst character in dragon age and probably bioware history
Come now, user, she's not even worst girl in her own game (Vivienne or Iron Bull), let alone the series or Bioware in general. Are you forgetting such lovely characters as Shale?
The game continued the butt-ugly aesthetic of Dragon Age 2, which was unacceptable on its own. On top of that, it turned the uninteresting story from DA2 into a completely pointless side-note (as it did with the story from DAO), so that players who didn't play any of the previous entries could be force fed the background.
The gameplay was so fucking dumbed down, it's surprising that the game doesn't play itself when you stop pushing buttons. Even on the highest difficulty, you had to be a complete moron to ever fail or die. This of course is only a continuation of the trend set by DA2, but it is fucking painfully obvious in DAI.
And for fucks sake, I hope Frostbite will finally die the painful death this abomination of a game engine deserves. Because of this shit, we couldn't even fix this game like we could fix Dragon Age Origins.
>Bang Cass
>She tell me about her lover just after busting a nut inside her
Bravo bioware.
>tism refuses to let me leave the Hinterlands
Is Origins really that much harder? Maybe I'm too familiar with the game by now, but the only trouble you really get from enemies is if they hit you with a fuck-you combo like Curse of Mortality or Fireball into Cone of Cold/Chain Lightning
I made Leliana the divine, just to spite her.
Actually no, Leliana was the right choice for many reasons: loyal to the inquisition, a powerful ally. Somebody who can bring the much needed changes to the Chantry.
But the fact that it destroyed Vivienne, and all her decades long scheming? Now that was the cherry on top.
The game would have been "okay" if not for the utter dogshit engine, it made vistas look pretty, but everything else was fuking horrid, especially melee was unplayable, going range was the only solution to combat having any sense of fluidity
Nah.
You main quest is stop the evil wizard.
Evil wizard is stoped in the main game
I wouldn't think so, and it's clear Cass isn't willing to change the Chantry so much as to openly marry you (unlike Leliana, who eventually changes the rules and marries a Warden who romanced her). But I remember there being dialogue in Trespasser that implied you two were still together, Cass just couldn't publicly acknowledge the relationship, so she can only bang you when she's not working.
It's not harder in the way that it makes bullet sponges out of the enemies (like DAI does), but it does increase the damage you take and decreases the effects of healing quite a bit on higher difficulties - this makes the enemies much more dangerous, while avoiding the feel of powerlessness against them.
The real difficulty increase comes from deeper gameplay mechanics though, which are present on all difficulties (except friendly fire). This includes much deeper "programming" of your characters (heal character X if he takes Y amount of damage), which could be made much better with good mods. Then the actually noteworthy magic combos, and enemies with actually intelligent resistances (instead of flat damage reductions on certain enemies like in DAI).
So IMO, there is a lot of difficulty in DAO, that disappears when you know the game and its mechanics. While in DAI, most of the difficulty stems from ramping up enemy health pools, and absolutely nothing else.
Cassandra a cute.
> Lelliana
> At the start of the game if you don't strictly demand from her that she doesn't kill the spy she ends up being insane bloodthirsty tyrant divine
> this one single trigger that is easily miss able is a change between benevolent and noble to straight up stalin
FULLY
Meh, I didn't give a thing about the engine when the game came out (and it looked horrid even then). I still don't give a damn about it, because the game actually plays well, which is much more important than the stupid graphics. They were enough to get the gameplay across, which was all that mattered. Sure, I do appreciate a good game that also looks good (which is why I still once a year replay Crysis 1), but DAI is the perfect example of a game that looks good while offering absolutely nothing in terms of gameplay. They could have made a movie out of it, and it would have had the same gameplay depth.
Frostbite is actually fucking horrible for everything except shooter.
It was okay. Characters were somewhat decent. Too much emphasis on fucking crafting though and not enough on levels and abilities.
I made that mistake as well, but murder-Divine is probably better in the long run.
She was cuter in DA2.
>romance cute tomboy with insecurity issues
>just after you romance her the way she's always dreamed of and slept together, she tells you about the worst hurt she's ever suffered
>her former lover, who was literally the only person she's ever felt that close with in her life, and who died a horrible death
>she explains how she thought she'd never be close to anyone again and thanks you
Sasuga, user.
Cassandra a top cute.
DA:I had two major problems. A lot of padding to make the game seem longer, and a villain that was set up as an interesting character in the last game, but just turned out to be another generic Bioware villain.
Other than that, it did some interesting and new stuff. Your companion being the puppetmaster was pretty cool. The ability to work together with one of your other MC's was interesting. DA:I wasn't a masterpiece, but after ME:A everything made by Bioware beforehand looks like it's made of gold.
This was the game I realized that Frostbite was the worst engine to make any game that wasn't Battlefield. The dev commentary confirmed it, the engine was so monolithic and opaque that everything that wasn't physics and movement had to involve external scripting. Something so simple as a player inventory or a magic spell had to be built from scratch and bolted on to the game. Facial animations in particular is something Frostbite was never designed for and the jerry-rigged software (ANT) from Bioware didn't cut it. DAI should have been their wake up call, Andromeda exacerbated the same issues.
Frostbite needs to stick to shooters and ONLY shooters, the facial animations in Battlefield 1 were also laughable but easily ignored. Anything else: need for speed rivals, DAI, ME:A, even Fucking Madden looks terrible and run terrible on this engine.
Trespasser was shit
Because even Eclipse (a 5-year old engine) can render better faces.
Yeah, I think Lel is the top choice for Divine too (and not because she's my waifu). As long as she's softened she has the best possible endings and is the most sensible Divine realising that the Chantry needs to change, being a good and inspiring leader to help it change, and it matches up well with my Inquisitor's choices.
The fact it fucks Vivienne over so hard is, as you say, icing on the cake. Excellent taste, user.
>spend all this time and effort to become advisor to Empress Celene
>End up being usurped by this literally who apostate
>That's okay, m-maybe I can be Grand Enchanter
>Get passed over as Grand Enchanter for some woman who's entirely opposed to everything you believe
>That same woman ends up responsible for the end of the Circles and leader of all the free mages
>Go back to your salon and sulk
Ha!
DA2 had strong neck gains
Oh right, I forgot that Leliana became a Hijab-subhuman in DAI...
>tfw manjaw fetish
Far be it from me to defend Bioware's incredibly binary scripting, but once you know what you have to do it's pretty clear what the correct dialogue is - once you get to the end of the conversation it's a clear choice between 'kill this person' and 'don't kill this person'.
The problem is just that it's so early in the game most players won't realise how important it is to softening her. Fucking Bioware,
Please do not bully the cute. It's not Leliana's fault Bioware did a terrible job of modelling most everyone except Cass and Morrigan.
I'd say it's easily better than DA2, but that's not exactly saying much. I'd say you forgot Sera but I never recruited her because her face made me physically ill. Shame about Cassandra's manjaw because she was actually a decent waifu otherwise.
The DLC just reveals you were supposed to stop the incompetent wizard.
I made Cassandra divine in my first playhtrough because she seemed the most reasonable and balanced.
She recognizes the need for change but doesn't upend the whole system. Though I suppose that might have been what was needed.
But I also wasn't able to soften Leiliana in my playthrough either, so when she told me her vision of the chantry, she came off like Vladimir Lenin.
part of Corypheus and a lot of Bioware's problems with their villains is that they come off as weak, not necessarily because they're not impressive on their own, but every game you basically build up your forces and whittle down theirs and they don't bother to counter it at all really.
With the Reapers, it only worked because Bioware just shrugged and said "yeah, that shit don't work on them."
With DA:O, it worked because you just had to focus on building your forces because there wasn't anything that could be done to undermine the darkspawn.
But when you have supposedly intelligent foes like Corypheus, he really should do shit like teleport in to help bail out his lieutenants and so forth.
>tfw DA:I has no good femals to romance besides of cassandra
its not fair even DA2 had a better female cast.
>except Cass and Morrigan
Morrigan's face looks fine but her breasts look almost unnatural in how she's been sucked dry.
Funny you say that since in DA2 the only decent females were the ones you couldn't fuck.
>Can't romance the dorf
the pirate chick and modding your sister in.
What dorf?
Is there a mod that makes her look like a woman?
the spunky scout
It was alright. I enjoyed running around with a lightsaber but overall it was pretty easy. The characters were alright but I didn’t really get attached to any of them.
I think the biggest thing I disliked was how much inspiration it drew from mmos.
Varric from the female standpoint.
Dagna for dudes.
Dagna was cute.
>morrigan's breasts
>sucked dry
Warden confirmed for canon lactation/breasfeeding fetish.
Thing is, I kept telling Leiliana "don't kill her" over and over and she still killed the bitch.
Don't be such a pedo mate
The problem is that EA is too cheap to a) pay the licensing fee for Unreal and b) make a new in-house engine that would better suit Bioware games. Since EA already owns Frostbite and the shareholders do not understand how game engines work, nuBioware games are doomed to be redicuously expensive and buggy until EA inevitably shuts them down and sits on their IPs.
That's really nice and all, but what the fuck was up with all that red lyrium and the time magic and literally everyone going collectively retarded?
Criminally underrated? No, it was massively overrated even when everyone hated it. It was complete fucking garbage and that's an understatement.
Harding is top tier waifu and the cutest dwarf, I don't even like dwarfs that much
I dunno why people like her so much. I guess it's because she was more 'cute', but in retrospect she looks like a midget Aloy. Yes I know she came first.
its the best western rpg series.
>inb4 Witcher shit
>there are people that actually think dragon age was good
If you just skip the MMO tier quests, the rest is solid, no matter how you look at it. Not as good as 1, but it did many things very well.
Cassandra, the autistic lesbian and the nigress are the best party members to have. Not as good as Morrigan, Alistair and Leliana of course but good enough
You don't own me
Funny this thread just popped up, got around to playing it this year and severely disappointed with how people were saying it was pushing political jargon. There's like, 2 instances of were they're like "Muh immigrants." and the Qun being transexual is only stated once. It's not that bad compared to the gameplay and the 10/10 crafting system.
On my second playthrough now as a Elf Mage as I heard they get the best conversations later on.
Is there honestly any reason to romance Solas? I heard you should as a mage too, but I'm thinking the advisor this play.
Which is why everyone is hoping for EA to finally choke. I would never imagine some corporation that big to dissolve anytime soon, but if the crash does happen then at least they'll be at least forced to do a fire sale of IP rights.
When Sierra and THQ went under, Homeworld IP actually escaped into the wild and even the old devs were able to push out a game (admittedly it wasn't even supposed to be the same IP).
Apparently opens up more dialogue options and a "better" ending in that dlc (that I have yet to play).
She's cute, flirting with her is adorable, and her character concept is really interesting - she's not an awesome warrior or anything, she's just a random shepherd who decided to do the right thing. I mean, sometimes you don't want a perfect model waifu, an interesting (still cute) character can be better.
Fuck you, Gaider! At least the bastard had the good grace to leave.
>Is there honestly any reason to romance Solas?
Make Elves Great Again.
His romance is great, though.
It's clear there was at least some ideas and passion in there.
But yeah, it had some critical issues, not the least being that they lied about what it would have in some of the previews. It was initially revealed as High Fantasy MGSV and I was really excited for that!
Then it turned into a sort of single player MMO type shtick. It would have been better if they:
>Did not have a voiced protagonist, let alone 4 of them, and used that funding to give more reactive voice lines and routes for the companion characters
>Choose Action combat or choose CRPG, you cannot do both
>In terms of building the Inquisition, have the player actually run some logistics in terms of resource allowance to the three advisors
>Have the resources you acquire from the war table be more particular instead of one homogeneous resource
This game is a classic case of "trying to please everyone some of the time", safe approach by EA fucking around with a game that could have been a spiritual AAA successor to Divinity: Dragon Commander
The one where the girl with a penis summons the female demon warrior with a penis>Alfie
can we agree that they are both good?
>Gets burnt out before goat girl action
It’s not fair
Anyone else wish they kept the rivalry system from DA2 and refined it? I hated having to pick and chose my decision based on how much approval I needed to do everyone personal quest
Incase stopped updating?
I liked the Dragon fights.
Of course we can.
pretty critter
>degenerates reading InCase instead of IRovedOut
The cosmology of the latter is fucking insane, almost better than the porn.
Literally every single thing you said is wrong.
series is on hiatus for a few months.
They're fun when they don't fucking bug out.
I had 2 fights where dragons just spun constantly in the air and another where it just spammed fire balls from a high vantage point for the entire fight.
>The companions and party members are written very decent too. Well. Minus Iron Bull, who has the personality and charm of a fucking tree stump.
And the bald elf guy. And the ghost kid. The game just wasn't great. MMO combat, MMO quests, mediocre story.
>leave hinterlands
>get to next zone
>literally same exact thing
Woooooow
Yeah, I thought the rivarly system was a great addition to DA2, one of the few things I liked about it. So of course they removed it for DAI.
DA2 is a terrible wreck with some pretty great parts.
DAI is a mire of mediocrity that has literally nothing redeeming about it.
There, I said it.
>20 hours passed, only cleared 4 zones.
It's shameful, but I could not stop.
Meth, not even once.
>besides Cassandra
But she looked like a man
> Character that likes to fuck girls fucks a guy
> SJW (Surpise they read his shit) Throw a shit fit that can only be desribed as REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE with 4000words
> Incase goes on hiatus break
.t incell
> Ruined Dead Space
> Ruined Mass Effect
> Ruined Dragon Age
Why Are We Still Here? Just To Suffer?
Every interaction with Iron Bull felt like one of those gachimuchi memes.
>only mentioning recently killed IP's by the monster that is EA
they should have been killed off a long time ago for what they did to my beloved bullfrog
>The real difficulty increase comes from
it comes from the game throwing like 5 spaced out mages at you all of which can take a massive shit all over you.
>remembering the last few NFS games
Underground had the perfect format, how could you fuck it up so bad.
hot pursuit 2010 was the last good nfs
watching the angry joe video on the the new nfs and its microtransactions is legitimately rage inducing
RIP
>they can teleport in between shitting out damage.
Kinda forced me to pick the grappling hook on all my warriors.
I enjoyed it in most situations. Was able to play a super zerk dwarf that punched every dragon to death. It was just silly that half the cast were (literally) insufferable faggots. They went out of their way to try to get ur char fucked by dudes. It's more dissapointing I couldn't have a true bromance without one of them going full gay as soon as I was kind. Didn't play the dlcs...I think my final party was me(dorf), ranger dorf, magical nigress, and bald.
>Iron Bull
The only good thing to come out of the DLC was being able to finally kill that fucking degenerate. DAO Sten would have had an aneurism if he saw what Qunari became by the time of DAI. I only wish we had an option to kill Sera and Vivenne too.
What was he lying about