What was the point of making Classic Sonic and Modern Sonic canonically two separate characters...

What was the point of making Classic Sonic and Modern Sonic canonically two separate characters? Doesn't that just fracture the fanbase even more?

It worked within the context of Generations.

No one cares except such fanbase
Which is mostly made of irrelevant greasy fat manchild autists that keep paying for terrible games
So yeah, why would anyone care

Hopefully Sonic Forces gets retconned.
they stated specifically in Generations that they were traveling through time. even the main villain is called the fucking "time eater"
they basically destroyed any chance of modern characters appearing in classic games.

In Generations, Classic Sonic was explicitly made out to be the younger version of Sonic

In Forces, he's from another dimension entirely.

>2 different characters
Are you all fucking retarded? He's Sonic's son from the future.

How the fuck did you all miss this?

because Iizuka said that's not true anymore and that the Classic world and Modern world are now seen as separate.

Of course they're separate. The Sonic in classic Sonics world is dead, but was his father.

Seriously, how have you all missed this?

so how the fuck does he explain generations, especially when modern sonic references it with his "IT'S BEEN SONIC GENERATIONS™ SINCE I'VE SEEN YOU" line

I like classic sanic being another character than being retconned as baby sanic.

Classic sanic is 16 years old and supposed to be hip and cool btw. Making him kawaii uguuu is way off

I just don't want him to appear in modern games.

Who gives a shit? The classics and Mania being their own universe means it can continue and ignore the shitty modern universe. Plus they can salvage the few good parts of modern like Blaze and apply them to classic without worrying about "m-muh canon".

>they basically destroyed any chance of modern characters appearing in classic games.
Fucking how? If anything that increased.

Sonic Team can't helped themselves.

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I find it hard to believe that anyone who worked on Colors made Forces.

Did you see the Final Boss?

What? Forces is literally Sonic Colors 2.

Well he definitely wanted to show he did. Reused assets everywhere.

Split timeline theory.

Eggman's messing about with spacetime in Generations created an alternate reality where everything beyond the Genesis era didn't happen. Classic games are still canon to Modern titles, but Classic Sonic exists in a separate timeline.

& Lost World as well with those fuckin bumpers at Infinite 1st boss fight.

Reconned as fuck now.

I don't know what happened to Sammy. I know he is in school, but I want to see more of him. I hope he didn't become an overcompensating soyboy manlet.

Well actually nobody who worked on level design of Colors or Generations worked on Forces. The level designer were pretty much all newbies.

I like this explanation, honestly I would have preferred generations be a non canon crossover title but I guess when you're sonic and you get a game that works you cling to it for all you're worth.

Becuz they want to reinforce that there's a good and a bad sonic

How is Forces honestly? Is it decent enough?

It fucking sucks. In fact nobody wants it so hard that in Europe (Sonic's biggest market) they're already selling it in a bundle with Puyo Puyo Tetris just two weeks after launch.

It's a Generations mod with no aesthetic, bad music and a OC creator

And 10x worse level design.

Technically it's a Lost World mod, but the gist of what you're saying is correct.

Yeah the literally made classic sonic's physics worse
How do you make something so bad when you come off the costails of arguably the best 2D platformer your company just released in 20 years

Because Sonic Team is incompetent.
>Lore is something only fat American rednecks care about
Ok Britbongs.

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Considering that it's a Lost World mod I'm amazed we even got what we got with Classic Sonic. Webm related.

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Just remember none of this matters because we're not talking about the best cat

Literally who?

It's a good thing she wasn't in this shitshow of a game.

Yeah, why the FUCK did they not add in B_i_g the Cat man? Fuck Forces.

Don't forget to post my favorite, user.

How the fuck did that even happen?

this was just the writers being ass. sonic explicitly says "it's been generations since i've seen you", so it's the same character and still his past

Hey it's Sonic """4""" Episode 3.

>so it's the same character and still his past
No it isn't, it's just an incredibly fucking shitty pun.

They knew about webm related so instead of fixing their remodded Lost World engine they actually thought it was a good idea to rip Sonic 4's engine for Classic gameplay.

they would not recognise each other (or classic wouldnt recognise modern) if it was another classic sonic
him and tails recognise each other too

>I'M WAAAAIIIITIIIIING

>they actually thought it was a good idea to rip Sonic 4's engine for Classic gameplay.
There a source for that? That seems a bit far fetched, even for Sonic Team.

Yeah because Generations happened, but Classic Sonic was retconned to be from another dimension you dumb fuck.

As far as Modern Sonic knows it is Generations Classic Sonic and not Mania Sonic. If Classic Sonic spoke and said the same line referencing Generations then you might have a point. If we go by what Iizuka says, it technically """makes sense""". Technically.

But really, this is all just Iizuka's typical retarded PR bullshit so it's best not to think about it too much. In a few years he'll probably say something that contradicts himself anyway. It's clear he's just making up shit as he goes.

Source: My Ass™. But really though after all the shit they've pulled with the backwork of Sonic Forces, I wouldn't put it pass them. Actually I would, fuck Sonic Team regardless.

He's right about it being Generations Classic Sonic, but wrong about it still being Sonic's past self. Otherwise Tails would call him past Sonic, not Sonic from another dimension. Clearly Generations did happen in the Forces world, but Classic Sonic was retconned because otherwise modern Sonic would have recognized the phantom ruby because he would remember Sonic Mania.

Here's another one that amuses me a lot.

They will put in Shadow, Taxman and Stealth both seem to like that character.

better question: why the fuck isn't blaze part of the main cast?

I'd rather they STOP putting the Classic X Modern motif together in the same game, it's retarded and has been done for over 10 years. Stop this shit already. Either let Taxman make a all modern cast game or all Classic era cast game, never mixed. All this is going to do is piss off SoJ more for "filthy Gaijans) for doing the same thing but better and make Taxman and co look bad being officiated with that same character thematic that Sonic Team's used for 10 years.

Thanks user this clears things up. Right now I want to fuckin shove this image right at cunts face.

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They want to establish 2D Sonic as a branch of the franchise just as prominent as 3D, but they also wants to distance fans from the idea that their mediocre 3D Sonic gives a bad name to 2D. So they made Classic Sonic an entirely different character. It's a move motivated entirely by ego, if they tell themselves enough times that it's a different Sonic, it has to be true.

At least this lets the Mrania Tream put different spins on modern characters.

Rouge on Classic Tails when.

I seriously felt sorry for Classic Sonic in this game, The true story of forces was literally getting Classic Sonic home.

Where's classic Knuckles and classic Amy thou?

>they were traveling through time
Time and space. The only way Crisis City could appear is through timeline fuckery, since it canonically never happened.

Not important enough.

I like classic Sonic as much as the next guy, but this webm has always been autistic. Lost World has problems, but the fact that it doesn't play like a classic Sonic game isn't one of them.

People have this fixation that modern Sonic in 3D needs to be an exact translation of classic Sonic physics, but if you look at other series like Mario or Zelda, they didn't make the transition to 3D by being straight up copies of themselves in 3D. SM64 completely redefined what it meant to be a Mario game.

I wouldn't give a shit as long as Sonic is actually a fun 3D platformer.

Difference is that 3D Mario and Zelda aren't gameplay downgrades to their 2D counterparts like 3D Sonic is.

That's because Sonic Team never tries to make Sonic work as a platformer in 3D, or if they do they cram a bunch of dumb shit in and bog the game down