Co-op mode will probably be the foundation of Blizzard's next RTS
>CO-OP mode is now SC2's most popular mode, more popular than ladder or arcade
>simple pipeline for post launch content
>sell new commanders MOBA style
>sell new unit skins
>Warcraft 4 CO-OP mode
Which Warcraft DLC commanders would you like to see?
Where have you heard that Blizz is making WC4?
Blizzard will never make an RTS ever again
not op, but it's kind of a no brainer. they're done with sc2 and their RTS team is working on SOMETHING. unless they're creating an overwatch RTS or some shit like that, it must be warcraft 4, since they've flip flopped between SC and WC for more than a decade now.
only chance they're not working on it is if their RTS team was disbanded, which we would've heard about a long time ago.
Hopefully I they make the entirety of wow non canon
They might not, but technically their last 3 RTS game releases have been Starcraft. It wouldn't be crazy if the next was Warcraft.
They've spent a ton of time, money, and energy creating an exclusive game engine for RTS which they already use in SC2 AND HotS. The foundation for a new game is already there.
That said there is a lot of rumors their next 'rts' will be more mobile/clash-of-clans style.
but seeing how SC2 Co-op mode rakes in the cash with 5$ dlc commanders, they'd be dumb not to double down on this mode.
I look up Blizzard RTS and I get news stories about how Blizz is making a mobile MMO RTS, congrats you've been monkey pawed, and here I thought they had moved their RTS team over to WoW to work on warfronts.
Warcraft is the only series I really love that I would be totally okay with them rebooting, just because WoW fucked up the lore so badly.
I mean it lends itself easier when you think about WC3 structure with units and heroes
>Paladin hero gets a bunch of human units
>Mountain king hero gets dwarf themed units
etc. hell you could make it in wc3 with the editor right now with some new models and shit.
>here I thought they had moved their RTS team over to WoW to work on warfronts
Garrison was their take on 'RTS' style 'base building' so we'll see.
There simply no fucking way that the WoW engine could even plug in RTS devs directly to work on content. Their pipelines couldn't be more different
a lot of that talk comes from a ton of 'hiring posts' which suggests a new MMO or Mobile RTS might be a separate project
Those articles comes from the fact that they opened up jobs for "phone programmers". No one knows what the intent is, for all you know they want to make a direct mobile streaming service for wc4 or something
I just hope they don't do a "1 guy plays the hero, other guy does the base building". But then again that may be pretty interesting.
I agree! Considering WC3 had Hero Units standard, it makes MORE sense in that universe than even in SC2(where it already exists)
For example, Glenn Greymane with much tougher but more expensive Worgen units
>CO-OP mode is now SC2's most popular mode, more popular than ladder or arcade
It's funny how long it took them to realise something EALA realised all the way back in 2008.
You're confusing Co-op mode with Archon Mode
Co-op mode is a teamup of special commanders you level up to gain powers and upgrades. You should check it out, the first 3 commanders (Raynor, Artanis, and Kerrigan) are free now.
The thing i miss most about wc3 and hate about wow is the 1 to 1 strength ratio between the races. You would think a touren could punt a gnome across the planet.
Is LoTV 1v1 free now? I have been semi thinking of coming back but i probably wont.
Yeah.
I don't play ladder, but yes. And there is only LoTV ladder now, they don't have the older Wings of Libery and Swarm xpac ladders anymore.
For F2P you have to win like 10 "Wins of the day' in other modes first to unlock ladder though (to cut down on Smurfing)
WC1-2 had that so I like to think of it as more of a return to form for Blizz.
Hell, take a look at the custom races made in wc3. Slap a face in those like cairne for tauren or malfurion for druids and you are set.
I would honestly love for a wc3 coop commanders
So what are you guys hoping to see in wc4?
Personally, I hope they limit you to 1 hero
that could be good.
Maybe a faction system depending on the hero, more mercenary heroes, maybe naga and blood elfs implemented properly.
higher selection limit but not retarded like sc2 where you can select everything. Better pathfinding, the usual "10 missions per race" from every rts + the expac. Prettier graphics, if possible the hero to look different depending on the items equipped
>EALA realised all the way back in 2008.
And then promptly forgot with uprising.
Ideally Warcraft 4 takes place during the Vanilla-WotLK time frame, just so we can have a sensical telling of the canon.
With that in mind our initial commanders would be
>Alliance
Anduin with his two advisors, depending on which one you go for changes the unit types you can field.
Magni as the slow defensive commander.
Mekkatorque with a heavy mechanical theme a la swan.
Tyrande who is basically a knife eared Vorazun.
>Horde
Thrall and his green niggers are the blitz guys
Whatever voodoo nigger troll was in charge at first doing some stinky dude weed stuff.
Cairne and Tauren who have top tier end game but rough early.
Sylvannus and her asymmetric warfare, ie; plagues and Assassins.
>BC
Velen and space goats with a meaty front line and support abilities.
Lorthramar and his junkie elves some implementation of the mana addiction.
>WotLK
Ebon hand and its death knights, raise dead and tanky frontline basically just nega draenai.
Antagonists range from fight Defias to fight old gods and legion.
DLC will have Illidan, Vashj, Kaelthas, Arthas, Kelthuzad.
> possible the hero to look different depending on the items equipped
Heros cosmetics would be lootbox stuff for sure
i would rather have heroes with differnt bits on them if they wore certain items but i guess it's an inevitability.
The deathknights are the good guys thing was a heavy mistake. needs to be dropped from wc lore forever
We won't get Warcraft IV until they're 100% ready to abandon WoW
Warcraft IV will most likely pick up right after TFT, so they can just retcon everything that happened in WoW as a "what-if" and start anew with WoW II: Electric Boogaloo building on the foundation Warcraft IV sets
I really hope this becomes the case
They're probably taking another swing at pic related, now that I think about it.
Hearthstone has broken the 'no other Warcraft' cherry and is already affecting WoW lore
Can you really say that milking Warcraft fans by retreading the story of WoW in an RTS form would not be outside Blizzards wheel house?
Uprising was supposed to be a full-fledged expansion with co-op and MP and everything.
World economy shat the bed around that time and put EA into full panic mode. Uprising and C&C4 being quickly pushed out to recoup the development costs as quickly as possible to dig out of the dump.
make sure to revert the draenei/eredar retcon
There's only one other way they can do it, and that's the full jew Activision path:
Release Warcraft IV as a low effort companion piece to WoW. They would release expansions for Warcraft IV and WoW in tandem, where the RTS would sloppily build a little bit of plot foundation for WoW, and then you would visit those places in WoW as dungeons and raids. Blizzard would release the two expansions as "deluxe collector's editions" and price them at around $80 - $100 USD, throw in a mount / pet / RTS portraits, and Blizzdrones would eat it up with a spoon. And they'd just keep doing it every year.
>the first 3 commanders (Raynor, Artanis, and Kerrigan) are free now.
They were always free, all the other commanders are free to level 5, now and forever.
I'd say at least half of these would make good Co-op style commanders
That game was made, fully playable and everyone agreed it was shit. So they scrapped it and made WC3 instead.
that would be neat
>Rexxar is half ogre armies
>Malfurion leads druids
>Sylvannas banshees
>Anubarak all the egyptian inspired undead
etc. it could work eaisly, specially when you think of the ammount of units there were in wc4 alone.
Who /Rehgar&Varian/ here?
Only if Gul'Dan is an option and he lets me set the universe on fire
They could make worse decisions.
And by god they have.
Sounds fucking gay. Sounds even worse considering it's nu-blizzard and the game will be dead long before it's even out. Christ, just look at the diablo 3 fiasco.
be ready to download 30g
i wanted to reinstalled sc2 last week when claiming the free xpac but 30gigs is alot for an rts
Well the fact that so few people give a shit about that mode in sc2 should tell you something.
Can you read?
its more popular than their normal multiplayer and it makes them more money
Well they don't sell anything in the arcade or ladder.
But i doubt it makes them more money than the single player campaigns did.
>cont
Arthas plays like Zagara, with cheap swarms and a sweet hero.
Kel’thuzad gets Naxxaramas as a mobile base able to produce units to the front line.
Kaelthas gets demonic units to show him betraying illidan.
Vashj has a slow but bretty gud army no access to air units.
Illidan plays like nova with high costs and a much higher quality unit than the avg commander, he has the smallest food cap in game.
I’d like the maps to represent dungeons and raids, AQ being the real inspiration for this mode as it’s the OG strange bedfellows moment in WoW.
> Kel’thuzad gets Naxxaramas as a mobile base able to produce units to the front line
That's a really fucking good idea, like a slow mobile barracks you upgrade