Australia - Battlefront 2 Lootboxes Constitute Gambling

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Source Shitaku.

Belgium, Denmark, Hawaii and Australia have all deemed Lootboxes to be gambling.

How fucked are EA?

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EA is inadvertently saving gaming

Daily reminder that EA won't die during your lifetime

FIFA is simply too fucking strong to let EA die

Hell, other vidya companies will probably get more screwed than EA for this shit

Based straya cunts

I doubt this will change anything

Little did you know the next FIFA game had all characters only obtainable through loot boxes, with the option to buy sports bux or grind out ingame money to acquire them.

unironically this.
Every fucking game has loot boxes in it but because of EA that wont be a problem anymore, based EA

GOD BLESS I KNEW WE WOULD HELP OUT WITH SOMETHING

Its too bad the aussie market is fucking worthless though and wont make much of a difference

>when you're so much of a kike that multiple governments are stepping in
>mfw EA unwittingly saved vidya

At this point we might have to actually thank reddit for forcing a fucking response from EA on the bf2 loot system and causing enough of a shitstorm to get gaming media to cover it.

Where you at Leafs?

TIME TO STEP THE FUCK UP

>Everyone does lootboxes
>EA does it
>For some reason everyone shits on EA for doing it
>Entire industry gets shoah'd

Not sure what to make of this. Why didn't this happend when Blizzard started?

Because of blizzdrones

Also, EA is more punchable

Australias consumer rights laws have done a brilliant job at curbing corporate bullshit on an international level.

We already explained this many times

Lootboxes in other games are cosmetic, EA went too far making the game progression based on lootboxes, so Battlefront II became a fucking pay2win game

Star Wars gave the issue the biggest fucking soap box you could ask for.

FIFA's main profit comes from lootboxes
Source if you don't belive me (I wouldn't give them clicks though)
gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-03-01-eas-ultimate-team-now-worth-USD800-million-annually

based shitposters.

Sauce/examples? Actually curious

who the fuck even cares, this can only be a good thing.

Thank god that EA pissed everyone off and got the ball rolling to kill the microtransaction models

Technically, EA isn't the first company who has done this either. Its just that SW is a large enough franchise that it exposed it to a greater amount of people who also went FUCK THAT.

>for some reason
They give blatant ingame advatages like +health, damage, cooldown time etc. This isn't the first time EA has done that but it's with a star wars game so I guess more people noticed

It's a shame because the idea behind FUT and other shit like it is kind of nice, like football stickers/trading cards that if it was balanced around a currency only earned in game with no p2w shit would be a genuinely good game mode idea.

>be so evil, that you actually makes earth a bit better place.
What a strange world we live in.

herbertsmithfreehills.com/latest-thinking/the-long-arm-of-the-australian-consumer-law-reaches-offshore

In short, Australian Consumer Law covers international purchases.

It's kind of a perfect storm situation with multiple factors.

On the star wars front you've got.
>Mass public exposure
>Disney hate bad press
>EA pushing their luck already with predatory practices in their other IP's
Then we've got recent loot box resentment
>Shadow of war
>Overwatch
>CS:GO fiasco/Dota 2 etc.
Kind of inevitable really

Thanks for crying and teaming up with Reddit like you always do, Sup Forums. Thanks for fucking devs in the ass. You're real swell, Sup Forums.

Of course the prison colony turns out to be a bunch of commies.

That shit won't fly in a real country like America.
Dear Leader Trump has our backs.

>FIFA is simply too fucking strong to let EA die

Nah it's strong because of lootboxes/DLC but without them it sells well but it's not that great. Unlike Nintendo with Pokemon, EA can't merchandise FIFA outside the game because it isn't their IP.

what a fucking joke. I was really looking forward to retards who but lit boxes subsidising my dlc

>That shit won't fly in a real country like America.

American politicians have been the most vocal about this bullshit you mong.

Nice shitposting soybois

Yeah, because EA is such a right wing company

>implying EA doesn't just do the SJW thing because it's "in" and also a surefire way to shield yourself from criticism

nigger if you think that these companies are actually "SJW" and not just riding the wave to sucker in gullible idiots you're as stupid as those they're using.

How is that any different from the average Democrat?

I still haven't seen a good explanation for how this is gambling but buying pokemon or sports cards isn't.
>I can sell the cards
doesn't mean it's not gambling

Can't have it both ways, kids. I know you like to blame Trump for all of your problems but no one actually believes anyone at EA votes Republican.

>hurr what is PR.

Where did i say i hate trump?

Don't lump us in with brainlets like yourself.

>but buying pokemon or sports cards isn't.

It is.

Just no ones ever kicked up a big enough stink about it to do anything about it.

>EA is making government intervene because you fucks can't just not buy shit you don't like
Developers will be there to make games without predatory or invasive monetization measures.

Has nothing to do with Selfies, Islam, Foreign Aid, or Immigration; so Little Potato don't care.

Cards are something you actually own, a physical item, but we both know you already know that and more.
You're just a cunt.

>loot boxes you can only get with an in-game currency are now gambling

It is gambling, but it's not scumbag-tier gambling.
You get some semi-random shit you can keep and play with, without the possibility of getting banned and losing all your stuff.
Now fuck off, brainlet.

I wasn't blaming Trump, I'm just saying that acting like EA is some frontline warrior for leftist horseshit is kind of stupid since it's obvious that they're just cashing in on a fag for PR points.

As far as I'm concerned it is, and I'd like to see those fuckers regulated too.

I think you might be retarded.

tf2 loot boxes are ALL cosmetic
BF2 loot boxes have P2W bullshit in them.

I HATE lootboxes and wish we could just fucking outright buy the skin you want

So physical vs digital is what makes it not gambling? Based on what?

Difference being you recieve a physical object that has value, rather than sinking money into a closed system that has no real monetary value.

>nearly all big corporations (Google, Twitter, Apple, EA, etc) are balls deep in the Democrat party
>IT'S A LIE THEY'RE ALL SECRET REPUBLICANS!!!

It's time to admit the Democrats are the big corporate party, children.

Just like in my animemes.
Absolute evil >>> justice

Take a look at this soyboy

I think you might be retarded if you think there's any way to use money on loot boxes in the game right now

this is "GTA causes minors to steal cars and commit violent crimes" levels of ignorance

You can also just buy the card you want off of some other website

The fact that lootboxes are:
>almost always untradeable
>items you get from it are account bound to you
>you have to buy a full price game, that is shitty until you buy lootboxes. In comparison you don't have to buy "pokemon the card game" for 60 dollars every year and then buy packs if you wanna be competitive about it

Means it's way more shady and akin to gambling

No, notice how I said it's something you actually own?
You can't get banned on a whim and lose all your shit.
Also, it being physical means you can resell it if you want.
But no, you already know this and you've heard it all before, you're just a cunt looking for an argument.

Not like it matters anyway, your beloved lootboxes aren't going to exist for long.

Both parties are big corporate party you fucking brainlet, that's not even an edgy statement, both receive massive funding from corporations and stock holding individuals.

It's the same shit like with musicians like the beatles who were all about love and how money don't mean a thing who left the UK because HMRC decided to hike taxes

none of those things have anything to do with something being gambling or not

They had it in the game already. People already bought power. They even said they were going to put microtransactions in again at a later time. Also gambling is easier to get dopamine when its legal then stealing a car which is illegal. You are literally too stupid for this conversation.

>ignoring all the other arguments in the thread
Like I said, just a cunt looking for an argument.
Because hey, why bother actually trying to defend your view when you can lazily type out a half-assed response that doesn't really refute anything.

Only for purchases made by australians, the point was the australian market is too small to make any meaningful changes to the game industry

Without something truly evil to rally against there can be no understanding of what evil actually is, and thus no goodness. Compare a crime of passion or burglary to a lunatic serial killer collecting a dozen heads. The first two are bad, but it's something unspeakably wrong and you reaction against it that makes you human.

>Soon we'll live in a world where Grand Theft Auto will still be labeled M whilst Overwatch will be labeled AO
Based EA. Challenge everything, you jews.

Valves refund policy would beg to differ.

>mfw EA fucked with the Mouse and got put in their place

Yeah, Twitter is so friendly with the Republicans, so much that one of their staffers banned Trump on their last day

>australia
who cares?

>comparing physical to digital
>doesn't realize that the back of pokemon booster packs reads as follows; Contains 1 rare, 5 uncommon, and 7 common, as well as having the odds of getting a premium card. Lootbox chances aren't known
>A booster pack is cheap, while to get the chance to buy a lootbox costs $60 to buy the game itself, and no, a starter deck doesn't count

I dunno user, its almost like, when all variables and ratios are clearly explained and shown, its not gambling.

fuck if i get a 5 lootboxes will die in our lifetime

People are losing their minds over battlefront loot boxes, just wait till they see what the FIFA games are like.

Developers never want this shit, it's publishers that do.

most people don't buy loot crates tbqh. the minority who does just spends enough to make EA want to keep putting in.

I'm sure a lot of them would want it if they saw the profits.

Australia also bans video games for content. No one cares. They have no eSports and their consumers pay an extreme markup on imports. It is a shit market.

What arguments?
>well this one is made of out cardboard therefore it's not gambling

>Devs never want this shit

Bullshit.

Devs make mad bank off shit like this to.

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Those arent Sup Forums related so I dont need to explain.

love to hear how assblastted aaa executives are about all of the recent attention their business practices have elicited from the normies

So why is the price fixing still allowed?

IT KEEPS HAPPENING

>Muh devs are saints meme
They are often huge jews too, its just that publishers handle PR. Look at every single kikestarter scam so far, that was a dev without a publisher.

Got to agree with that other user, you are just a cunt looking for an argument. I take it you were in that thread about cards being gambling? Or maybe you made it? Either way you got some ideas from posters there and are now looking for arguments. Fuck off you cunt.

So why is this first happening now when Valve has been doing this shit for years?

Because Star Wars is huge.

It's better to just ignore that fuckwit, user.
That cunt's probably responsible for at least some of the dozen or so threads defending this shit.

Because regional pricing isn't against the law?

The cards themselves don't have any actual value assigned to them by their makers. It's the players and the secondary markets for the cards that assign value to the cards.

>All staff at EA HQ found dead after Activision and Blizzard send hitmen for ruining everything for them.

How did Reddit manage to change a global industry and yet we're here shitposting?

So no good argument then. Just that one is made of paper and the other is digital, and now you're in "ugh can you just not" mode. Not surprising since I doubt any of you actually believe lootboxes are gambling, you just want cheaper DLC but need to invoke the children in order to get what you want.

Because EA took it too far and made a public mess that normies could see while Valve was discretely (from the PoV of a non gamer normie) fucking neckbeards in the ass.

Imagine being so Jewish that all the heebs in government and the media force you to stop being such a kike.

Easier for a normie to understand. Star Wars is known even by clueless boomers.

>australia is reddit
That's a bit of a shit thing to say, cunt.

I hope this ends well for us but I could see our government just slapping on a gambling tax.

Between Australia and the US it is, under the AUSFTA. There is also the matter that much of the reason digital distribution prices have remained high is due to pressure from EBGames, who will refuse to stock products if they're undercut too much.

By that logic why then nothing happened when Black Ops III got released? It also has pay2win lootboxes