BOTW v Oydssey

Now that the dust has settled, which one does Sup Forums OFFICIALLY prefer?

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>which game has stronger nostalgia

>wHicH gAmE hAs StRoNgEr NoStAlGiA

Odyssey for me.
It felt fun the entire time. Every time it was about to lose me, it pulled me in again with some visually, audibly, and thematically different.
It never let any one world linger longer than it needed to and the music was memorable. The gameplay was fun and the enemies you could control broke it up enoughf that it never got stale.

BotW was good, but there were a lot of things that just frustrated me.
The big wide open spaces, while gorgeous, were sometimes boring to traverse.
The four dungeons looked and felt the damn same and all the bosses were just samey looking Ganon monsters.
The music was largely forgettable until you got to Hyrule Castle, which is fucking unheard of in a Zelda title.

And every time I entered a shrine and saw it was yet another fucking copy pasted combat challenge with those little drone fuckers instead of some fun and creative puzzle, I let out an audible sigh.

BotW has amazing traversal mechanics but everything else about the game is mediocre and boring.

Odyssey is very tight and fun all the way through. Ironically in some parts it even has more compelling exploration.

Odyssey was far more enjoyable

NOT SO FASTO
*unzips dlc2*

Odyssey is objectively a better game in every conceivable way.

BotW is an 8/10.

Odyssey is 7/10.

Nah. I'm more of a Zelda guy but Oddysey is better

odyssey is garbage. 6/10 game at best

I've come to learn that nostalgia is often just used to disparage people who actually feel something from the game

Odyssey - often a really magical experience that just warms your heart

BotW - often a really sterile experience, it's easier to appreciate this game from a technical standpoint but hard to be enchanted by it

based joseph

Both are 9/10 games with some obvious flaws, but IMO BOTW was more of a memorable experience overall.

BotW was actually far more tight than Odyssey, despite what retards on this board say. Moons were mostly filler and no more exciting than Korok Seeds for the most part, but at least Korok Seeds weren't the main bit of content in BotW.

Zelda wins this easily.

>botw again is getting compared to a game that isn't even from the same genre

why the fuck is botw getting compared to every game out there? i'm fucking sick of this shit

Seriously, people need to leave BotW alone. Tired of everyone trying to tarnish this game's reputation.

I haven't touched BotW since the week after launch, so Odyssey.

yeah what is the common thread between mario and zelda i dont get it???

they arent getting compared you fucking idiots.

you're getting asked to pick which one you liked better

Botw was mind blowing for me.
While I'm still playing Odyssey and having tons of fun.

Both are just amazing.
How does Nintendo does it, Sup Forumsros?

Odyssey was good, but anyone who thinks it didn't suffer from a serious case of korok seed syndrome in regards to its main fucking collectible is delusional. BotW had a much wider variety of overall content and offered more activities to keep the player engaged.

>more activities
Literally shrine hunting and "puzzles" for Korok seeds in the most unsatisfyingly manner of movement
At least collecting in Odyssey was fun.

Nope. Shrines, shrine quests and other environmental puzzles, sidequests, korok seeds, stables, other random secrets, general survival mechanics, compendium completion, etc.

Stay butthurt.

>survival mechanics
Because that's so fun in every other game.

>At least collecting in Odyssey was fun.

Yeah, ground-pounding the 76th glowing spot and throwing Cappy at the upteenth random pole sure was "fun".

The best moons in Odyssey were the challenge pipes and cap doors and yet those were all rather uncommon in comparison to the literal assloads of tedious filler.

I unironically think that Splatoon 2 is the best switch game.

Go to any ranked battle and it's a blast.

>environmental puzzles, , korok seeds, stables, other random secrets, general survival mechanics, compendium completion

none of those are fun

also

>enviromental puzzles, other random secrets, general surival mechanics

literally what?

i think it would be a nightmare to play splatoon competitively but it is fun for occasional turf wars

It's a shame there wasn't more engaging moons in Odyssey. Most of them were so lazily placed and repetitive

>literally what?

Do you want him to spoonfeed you? Fuck off, brainlet.

Odyssey by far. BotW feels like a chore lots of the time.

BotW for me. Odyssey was disappointing, only put ten hours in

desu odyssey is a great game and all but i went through the levels way too fast.
i don't feel like replaying the levels, they're not that fun.
i wish they let people create their own levels like mario maker.
imagine the shit people could make in this game if you just let them, there's so much potential.
especially some harder stuff since all the levels in the game are kids' difficulty (except for those frustrating lava things that just wouldnt land in the fucking tomatoes)

Didn't BotW already win a GotY poll in a different thread?

BotW by far. Odyssey got boring really fucking fast with the repetitive moons.

Zora's Domain alone shits all over Lake Kingdom so hard it's embarrassing.

>him

nice try samefag moron

explain what these enviromental puzzles and other random secrets are. and how survival mechanics amounts to an activity

have come across neither in the game

also missed this one last time

>finding stables is an activity

literal kek.

botw felt like a nice adventure while mario felt like a bunch of fun user levels with no good connection.

both games have some flaws but nothing in odyssey compares to eventide island

>explain what these enviromental puzzles and other random secrets are

Literally every shrine quest is an environmental puzzle, are you fucked in the head? They're scattered all over the map and some of them are required to even enter certain shrines.

It's funny because I'm not even the guy you're replying to. You're just a retard.

Yes, twice in fact. Anti-BotW shitters are just making do-overs at this point in a desperate attempt to rewrite history.

you already included shrines you absolute fucking moron, you listed that as a separate one

lmaoing at the state of you. thick fucking cunt

That is a separate one. Shrines are not shrine quests, you dense faggot.

what are you even slevering about now you fucking spastic? i dont think even you know

you listed shrines, shrine quests and environmental puzzles as seperate activities in the game.

so what the flying fuck is an environmental puzzle given you listed it as an entirely seperate activity from shrines/shrines quest

can't believe i have to break down your own statements for you to understand. you're an absolute zoomer mate

Thinking about buying a switch but worried it'll be a paperweight after I finish BOTW/Oydssey, when's the next "big" game expected?

xenoblade

Mario + Rabbids is a surprisingly good game. In fact, it's kind of frustrating that it's good, because it's not 2007 and why the fuck are Rabbids still a thing?

It's basically babby's first XCOM, without most of the really frustrating RNG bullshit. But it still has a bit of frustrating RNG bullshit.

That seems to be a recurring thing these days. What, for the past two weeks we've been having the same thread criticizing BotW everyday with suspiciously similar OP pictures, arguments and general structure of sentences rying to bait BotW? Pretty sad really.

XB2

BotW's a meme game with one of the worst fanbases ever
Odyssey is a real game

Will check it out, never played the original

I'll take a look, i had just dismissed it when i saw it because rabbids

Anything good expected next year or is it too early for pokemon/metroid/smash etc?

BotW. The game is just so consistently amazing. There's so much mechanical depth to everything in a gigantic world. I've never seen another game that encourages as much creativity and lateral thinking.

Odyssey is a really excellent game, but it never reached the same highs.

BotW would be better off it was 25% smaller overall. Odyssey maps are nice and dense, and it makes a difference in triggering that just 5 more minutes mentality of great games.

yoshi, kirby next year

pokemon on the switch will be next year or 19.

that's impressive

BOTWFAGS BTFO

I completely disagree. BotW doesn't have any wasted space by the nature of how its map was constructed. It's all little setpieces and unique features. You could take a random screenshot of an area and I could tell you where it was taken from.

>ummm actually i can tell which empty space or generic mountain this is because of the size of the rocks and the shape of the tree

>Tied

Better than I expected. With the dumbfucks on this site, I was expecting Odyssey to be winning.

Breath of the Wild saved the Zelda series. Odyssey isn't even better than 64

your silence is deafening you thick fucko

Seriously, we need to have a discussion about what's been going on, with people trying to criticize BotW and tarnish its reputation. There is clearly a concerted effort to sway Sup Forums into thinking this game is flawed, and isn't worth the acclaim. I'm tired of seeing the same threads and points criticizing the game with really stupid, subjective arguments. It's clear that some people are trying to operate a campaign to turn the tide of opinion on BotW. We can't let this happen.

They were both great yet disappointing in their own regards.

Mario odyssey let me down by being too easy, having too many moons randomly placed and being downright boring at times especially after beating the main quest (which happens pretty quickly). I may have hyped this game up too much expecting an experience akin to Mario 64 and sunshine but what I got was something completely new.

Botw disappointed me with its shitty dungeons which have always been one of the most important aspects of zelda to me. But as an adventure game it's a pretty solid performance.

BOTW wins for me

They're both overrated.

Here I am just happy to be a switch owner

there was already a poll and botw won by a lot

not like Sup Forums has the presence sway anyone. Communities that have real power (reddit/resetera) all love the game.

I think we've had a thread ever day for the past two weeks no?

It's pathetic how BotWfags are so deluded that anyone who disagrees with them is part of a conspiracy to make everyone hate BotW

>so what the flying fuck is an environmental puzzle given you listed it as an entirely seperate activity from shrines/shrines quest

In the original list, shrines were listed separately from environmental puzzles and then another person replied to you clarifying what the environmental puzzles are (i.e. shrine quests). Holy fuck you're retarded.

>which game did the 20-30 year old man children buy the most

Nintenbros will buy both with all the amiiboos

>MUH COLLECTATHON

Face it kid, the game sucks, nintendo has sucked for years.

>You could take a random screenshot of an area and I could tell you where it was taken from.

Why do you say this in every thread, as if it's impressive. This applies for most games.

I'm the guy who posted the list. I clearly said "other environmental puzzles", as in OTHER puzzles outside of the ones that were already in shrine quests. Both of these are separate from shrines.

Do you get it now? And why the fuck are you even arguing about something this autistic?

It is blatantly obvious that most of them have not played the game and this shows in their illegitimate criticisms.

More like you refuse to acknowledge any opinion other than your own and label anyone who disagrees with you as someone who didn't play the game

>We can't let this happen.

I love BotW, but dude, this doesn't matter in the slightest. Sup Forums has always exaggerated nitpicks to make good games look bad, the Zelda fanbase has always been insufferable, combine the two and you have an unstoppable force of shitposting. They'll just do it with the next game too. You have to learn to ignore them after a while.

I've barely touched odyssey since finishing the story and will probably only clock around 30 hours before putting it down for good. Zelda on the other hand, kept me going for well over 100 hours even after finishing the main story. You can only bing bing and wahoo so many times before it gets stale.

But it is obvious they have not played the game, I have not seen a single objective criticism of this game, it's all just subjective and opinionated drivel. Not to mention they always utter blatant falsehoods like saying the world is empty or it doesn't have interesting things to explore. There is no reason why we should allow these people to just spew their bullshit and let them try to influence the consensus. This is something that we need to be on guard about because it we aren't careful, they will gradually sway the view of the game unnaturally, in a way that it doesn't deserve. The debate about this game should not be whether it is great, or shit; due to all of the critical acclaim and consensus, the debate should be whether it is a masterpiece or whether it is just really great. They can't be allowed to just shift the debate into a place where it doesn't belong.

Odyssey could have been great, maybe even as good as BotW. The problem is that they put in hundreds and hundreds of Moons to enforce the guise that it was a game filled with content, when the reality is the vast majority of those Moons were excruciatingly simple to obtain. So many of them weren't even locked behind platforming challenges or even basic puzzles, I specifically recall several of them that were just plain out in the open. It's even more obvious when you're playing the postgame. The fact that you could take most of them completely out of the game and would have lost nothing of value reinforces the notion that less is indeed more.

It's how another user put it -- imagine if BotW ONLY consisted of Korok Seeds and that's basically the whole Odyssey experience minus the bosses and occasional challenge pipes.

>subjective criticisms are incorrect
The entire point of a discussion is to EXCHANGE OPINIONS. You are literally incapable of discussing anything because you have no concept of what a discussion is.
Go ahead; post your objective insights into the game's design.
>Well it has combat... and puzzles...
That's your argument. You don't have any opinion on the intricacy (or lack thereof), all you deal is in technical aspects.
Here's a technical observation: The game runs like shit and the enemy telegraphs are for people with the response times of... I can't even think of an example. I can't say an infant or a mental retard because their average recorded response times are actually fast enough to recognize how shitty the telegraphs are, never mind the complete lack of moveset variety.

There's your objective insight you fuckin' retard.

>some desperate idiot is spamming botw votes
why do we bother with these again?

oddysey feels like just another fucking mario game but more surreal and this time with square levels rather than lines
honestly don't get the circlejerk at all

Get a fucking life you massive loser, holy shit.

All this I agree with, and the weapon durability systems took the wonder and excitement of getting anything out of the game. Also the basic tools of Zelda games and no instrument to be seen. There was a lot that bothered me but it was generally enjoyable.

>Not to mention they always utter blatant falsehoods like saying the world is empty or it doesn't have interesting things to explore

That one gets me the most. You'd have to be pretty fucking delusional to argue that BotW is "empty" when previous Zelda games are easily about ten times emptier in comparison. The map is absolutely filled with shit to find and do, I recently started a second playthrough on the harder difficulty and enjoyed all those weird little environmental puzzles and Kass riddles just as much as I did the first time.

>click poll
>already 50/50

Well shit, didn't even have to lift a finger.

Elaborate.

Maybe it's not some evil conspiracy conjured up by one guy on Sup Forums. Maybe BotW is just a better game.

Or maybe more people think its the better game.

BotW has more systems in place than Odyssey, so people are obviously going to pick it apart more. And since Sup Forums judges games by just tallying up "flaws" and then making the winner the one with the least amount of them, you get shit like Odyssey > BotW even though BotW is by far the more enjoyable game by a wide margin.

Odyssey's issue was pretty much summed up by a lot of other people in this thread. Moons were mostly shit, and that's a flaw big enough to outweigh any of the flaws in BotW combined if you ask me.

>The entire point of a discussion is to EXCHANGE OPINIONS.

Not exact, in a discussion about a game's quality, you need to bring objective arguments to the table. You can't just say "It doesn't FEEL good" or "it FEELS empty" or "there's no atmosphere" and expect that to be a reasonable criticism of the game. If you want people to respect what you say, you need to have a well reasoned, logical argument. When a game has garnered this much acclaim from established critics, you really do not have much ground to stand on, and so the standards of discussion are very high. You cannot just say you think the game is shitty, and just say it's "just my opinion, man", and let that stand; you need to be called out on the fact that your opinion has no basis, and is not equal with the well formulated praise this game has received from most people knowledgeable about video games and game design. A single person's subjective views are not as valuable as the established, critical consensus, and for you to presume you know more than them is highly arrogant, and it cannot be allowed to sit unchalleneged.

I haven't played Mario yet but I'll give my two cents on Zelda. I find a lot of its design choices frustrating. Nothing I do feels rewarding. The only permanent prizes you earn are basically compendium photos and heart containers/staminer wheels. Great... new costumes are a plus I guess but it all leaves much to be desired imo, same goes for the divine beast powers. I hate that basically anything you do is pointless. Killing a guardian? Lose some weapons and get cogs in exchange. Raiding a base? Lose some weapons and get basically nothing. Wow. Oh hey, maybe you'll find some cool new weapon like a Great Flame Sword!! Too bad it'll break eventually... it makes exploration feel shallow and meaningless. Speaking of shallow, what the fuck are BotW's dungeons? They visually blend together and apart from a cool gimmick, are bland af. I think the devs went WAY too far with the open ended design of the game. Everything feels pointless and meaningless. I don't feel satisfied when I do anything. It's basically Sticker Star in that regard, dare I say it. Doing stuff=losing stuff. You might as well avoid enemies and obstacles as much as possible, grab the best gear you can find (basically, get the Master Sword), and defeat Ganon. Such a hollow experience. That doesn't mean I haven't enjoyed a great bulk of it too, though. The Great Plateau was magical. Everything had direction and purpose, or so it felt. I love the NPCs, their dialogue is mostly top notch. Collecting stuff, while meaningless, is still fun in some ways. T feels therapeutic to pick stuff up as you're walking and hearing that 'beboo' sound. The combat can also be very tense. The world can be fun and interesting to traverse. But overall I wish the game had more focus and direction, it doesn't feel like a Zelda game most of the time. It feels like a waste of my time.

BotW is a better game. Odyssey is more fun. There I solved Sup Forums's eternal riddle.

I had more fun with BotW. Odyssey just made me wish I was playing 64 again. All the nostalgia pandering certainly didn't help

But objective criticism doesn't exist. It is all opinion.

Sweet Jesus, it's a 6/10?

are you faggots rigging this poll so it stays tied? every time any of these games takes a lead it surprisingly gets votes to tie it up

Odyssey has more objectives though.

>BotW is a better game.

Says who? If I found Odyssey more enjoyable, why should I pretend BotW is better? Because IGN said so?

Yes