Why don't you like "Art Games," Sup Forums?

>my game, “Everything is going to be OK,” isn’t that sort of experience. It’s an interactive zine based on abstract life experiences about trauma, PTSD, and surviving difficult situations. By definition it’s interactive art that uses the game format as a way to convey these messages. It’s not necessarily a game in the traditional sense. Unfortunately, my experience at Day of the Devs indicated that game culture may actually be getting more antagonistic toward alt-games, and YouTubers may be at the heart of it.

venturebeat.com/2017/11/21/youtube-culture-is-turning-kids-against-art-games/

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I remember when Vinny Vinesauce played this. Even he called it out on it's shitty pretentiousness.

If it's not entertaining for someone to watch while someone else plays it then it won't be popular on a video streaming site. Also weren't these games usually low viewership on Newgrounds anyways?

no, it's all Pewdiepie's fault that teenagers hate low-effort games about rape and wanting to kill yourself.

>Around 2 in the afternoon, when people started to bring their kids — usually teens — things started to get kinda hostile. They were pretty rude, and it got kinda unbearable, so I had to leave the area. I stopped hanging around the booth after that (I mean, I get it. The “game” doesn’t belong).

> I had to leave the area
#triggered

>game is so boring or bad that criticism is limited to "wtf is that shit, lol"
>being in denial about it instead of trying to fix/improve it
>unable to take the heat

Abloo bloo bloo

I'm tired of "indie devs" making games that aren't games and then getting pissed off that nobody likes them.

>people don't like 2deep4u indie garbage

because they are made by people whose opinions on any subject does not matter to me

>this isn't really a game. It's art.

Pretty sure I watched Vinny play that game.
Seemed pretty interesting.

But if I hadn't seen Vinny play it I never would have heard of it ever.

> It's good journalism if I make random, insulting, dismissive guesses about what other people think and provide no solid evidence vs. other hypotheses.
> I have a right to have people respect my perspective on PTSD even though people younger than me have been to war and I have never been responsible for anything.
> People don't actively seek out and subsequently unanimously my paltry work because they are bad people who hate women and also art and also they are ironic hipsters.
> And by the way I'm so good and wise for pointing that out.

The world we inhabit is deeply saddening. In a meta- sense this article is a deeply poignant satire.

Pretty much all of these.

>Too stupid to code a real game
>Too unoriginal and derivative to create art

Games designed to be art are shit, games that eventually become art are considered good.

Caption this right and it looks like any random self-pitying webcomic. Everyone two-bit artist thinks they have something new and profound to say. They usually don't.

the problem just comes from labelling them as games. if it were possible to divorce this shit from being considered a game they wouldn't experience the same hostility, though to the devs credit even if you call this garbage an "interactive experience" people usually just see it as a more pretentious way of saying "art game" when it should be something completely different.

Because they arent fucking video games.

>The morning crowd was pretty awesome (press crowd)

>game journalists responded well to shitty hipster indie game about mental illness

I remember this game.
I watched the entire stream of it when vinny played it.
It had little to offer as a game, due to being a pointless unending pile of sensory overloading nonsense that barely required a player, and it had even less to offer as an artistic statement, Being confusing and boring and so obsessed with strange imagery and whacked out metaphor that any moral or meaning was completely buried and invisible.
I watched it for ages and I couldn’t tell you what the hell it was trying to say about anything.
If you want to be judged as art, I’ll judge you as art, and this particular piece of art is pointless and pretentious.

No, it's fine to label them "interactive experience" and to show them at "interactive experience" shows, advertise them to the "interactive experience" market, etc.
They take their "right to exist" to mean "co-opt a successful industry's channels to market products no one in those channels wants.
I'm sure the world of competitive dance would have little respect for the addition of DDR.

>make surreal game
>get upset when people are confused by it or say "what the fuck"
The issue isn't even with people approach to "art games," this fucker's complaining about people being confused by strange games.

the article links to this entry in her blog; she's throwing a pity party because people don't like her "deeply personal art"

like bitch, do you think you're the first person who this has happened to? she never even considers the notion that maybe the game isn't very good as a game, or as art.

>a pointless unending pile of sensory overloading nonsense that barely required a player, and it had even less to offer as an artistic statement

Depression Quest 2.

Yeah, I also remember that stream. It was actually weird to see Vinny annoyed by the game, given the fact that he loves those kind of "Artistic" games.

Hell, he even liked that pretentious walking simulator he played last Sunday, and it was legit trash.

If it's an "art game" then present it at an art gallery, not a video game expo.

>everyone except myself is the problem
It's a just world out there kid.

This game was at E3? How fucking rich is this woman that she can have her not-game exhibited at E3? And then Day of the Devs? Who exactly is she blackmailing in the industry to have everybody falling over backwards to show her shitty piece of sub-Newgrounds-tier crap?

Pretty sure he got more laughs out of it than he did with Autistic Sperg As Seen from a Ladder, but he approaches these kinds of games with a different levity and expectation that you shouldn't have to put up with in actual video games.

He's right though. They should make a show exclusively for the walking simulators and artsy, no gameplay tripe.

>If you want to be judged as art, I’ll judge you as art, and this particular piece of art is pointless and pretentious.
user you can't say that, that's misogyny. Did Youtube teach you how to have standards like that?

Then these "artists" would cry when no one comes to see their shitty not-games. The only way they can get any attention is to glom on to a more popular medium. If video games are LGB, these people are the T. Often literally.

The shitty 'Retarded Animal Babies' TV channel flash game from back in the day was more of a game than this garbage