I currently have a 60hz monitor does 144hz really make THAT BIG of a difference?
I currently have a 60hz monitor does 144hz really make THAT BIG of a difference?
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no because the human eye can only see 60fps
Put it this way, whenever I look at 60hz footage now, I feel like I used to feel when I went back to 30 after being at 60.
The difference is huge. Just make sure you have the performance to actually hit over 100fps.
It's probably pretty good for first person shooters, but I'd still rather have a 4K monitor.
it's quality of life upgrade, it won't make you better or anything
so if you can't afford 1440p 144hz monitor, don't even bother.
It does for fast paced games.
>I heard a rumor let me tell you it again without any actual experience, but trust me I heard it from 50th person in line
if you wanna play csgo and other stuff like that and want to be competitive actually good, yeah. Else no.
If all you play are meme multiplayer games that were made to work on toasters like overwatch then it'll probably make a difference. If you can't sustain 144 or at the very least 120fps then high refresh monitors won't do shit for you, though having free/jew sync can help.
imo image quality > refresh rate
This. I remember when 60fps was silky smooth then I got used to 100+ framerate. I can’t even play 30fps games without getting a headache now
It's objectively smoother but obviously more demanding than 60Hz
There are some super shitty ports made with ONLY 60FPS in mind that act up when you surpass 60FPS/Hz so you'll have to manually change settings.
it is a big difference, but it also tends to make people even more allergic to sub-60fps games, and even dislike sub-100fps titles.
evidence right there.
I bet these people would die if they played some 20fps locked games.
to elaborate a bit: it's like going from $5 earbuds to $300 headphones
you still can hear same melody but it sounds better
I got a 144hz 2k dell with gsync last year, it's fantastic. I'm still very happy with the purchase and to me It's a good midway while i wait for more affordable 4k monitors at 144 and gsync. I'll never go back to 60
Yes
However only buy one if you are upgrading an old monitor.
Been using a 120hz monitor for 5 years and its so good there is nothing worth replacing it with till it breaks.
Easily better than 60. Even simple things like browsing Sup Forums is better due to how smooth it is.
>want to jump onto the 144hz hypetrain
>tf2, my favorite game, can't be played consistently over144fps
:*(
If I understand correctly only MVA panels made by korean companies can achieve 144hz.. unless you buy TN garbage
Is there any IPS/PLS monitor that can do 144hz? I thought Asus had a IPS model but it looks TN
actually not, 100+fps is really ncie
but if you start playing in the range of 45-80 you can't feel strong drops at 144hz
I'm using mg279q for 2 years, I just keep it at 144hz, can't feel a thing
you feel very well when game drops under 100fps, but withing 45-80 it's fine for most games
If you are using a controller to play assassin's creed no. If you are using a mouse and playing csgo then yes.
>does 144hz really make THAT BIG of a difference?
yes
It's for overwatch I currently have a 60hz monitor.
I don't get people like you, do you just lack the human adaptiveness? I have 100Hz monitor and I can play 30fps games just fine. Skyrim on Switch is very comfortable to play despite 30 fps.
I have Asus PG27Q abd really like it.
>It's for overwatch
Good goy
mg279q and PG279Q
they got pretty good allround IPS panels
check tftcentral reviews
if you like shooter games, absolutely. it's ridiculously smooth. you'll go back to a 60hz display like 'what the fuck is this garbage?' get gsync too.
anyone that would rather 4k60hz is absolutely insane. high frame rate blows 4k out of the water.
Is it as beautiful and comfortable as modded 120fps Skyrim on PC?
>ITT 70% of people talking out their ass and never even tried 144hz monitors
fuck sake, stop parroting "it's for shooters" meme
I almost bought a VA monitor but Benq never say if it's the newer AMVA or old VA... I had an old VA which was so bad so bad you can't imagine. Banq claimed 8ms lag but you see blur everywhere, even watching a fucking movie you see ghosting and blur.
That's why I became a fan of IPS even though I know that a lot of expensive monitors and TVs are using VA panels today
Do you have any experience with VA? I was interested in one 144hz QLED from samsung (VA panel with quantum dot) but I'm not sure
But is a 240hz worth it?
Personally i thought the change in image quality from TN to IPS was way bigger than going from 60 to 120 or 144hz, though to be honest i only use my monitor to browse the internet, watch chinese cartoons and play slow paced games like grand strategy.
I don't know, I only have monitor that can go up to 100 fps. But as for looking nice... It looks better than vanilla original Skyrim but worse(due to lower res textures) than Special Edition. But as long as you dont look directly at the ground and play handheld- it looks like Special Edition. You would only want Skyrim Switch port for portable time waster anyway.
If you play fast paced games, TN is the only way to go.
depends. on like total war games? nah.
on everything else i think its worth it.
Depends on what you're playing. Anything that supports it is better on it, and that includes quite a bit of PC games. But going with 1440p and 75Hz might be the better choice anyways if you want to save money.
Monitors aren't terribly expensive in the end though. Considering how much you're going to use it, I would say it's not unreasonable to get something that costs up to 300€ or even more if you have the cash.
Creating custom video modes isn't particularly hard thankfully.
but look at the prices of those TN at 144hz. It's more expensive than IPS
Last year they were being sold for 800 dollars
nope, i'm on IPS
modern panels are pretty quick specially 144hz ones, they have angle problem, but it's much lesser now and better than TN
VA is a good mid point, before buying compare review numbers to other VA monitors though
>you'll have to manually change settings
OH NO!
I agree with this, you can feel the difference in everything, it's like recovering from a drunken haze and nothing is a blur anymore. Even slow paced games benefit a lot from the clarity.
I feel like higher resolutions aren't worth it unless they're accompanied by higher framerates, because 60hz is such a blurry mess that you lose a lot of what you're seeing anyway.
i have a AOCG2460PG. its a 1080p144hz. really affordable. when you start going into higher resolutions and even higher frame rates like 175, you're looking at really ridiculous prices. i'd wait till they come down a bit.
>4K60FPS setup costs more than a 144Hz setup
>144Hz current popular opinion
Hmmmmmmmmmm. Smells like poorfags. Ever since I went to 4K, I can't stand to look at anything lower resolution. There's worlds of detail missing in anything lower. You get more frames... of an empty world. I'll be getting another 1080ti, though. I'll have frames and resolution.
I heard pretty good things about the Samsung C24FG70 but i find that curved screen and the weird ass stand pretty disgusting.
not to mention 80% of 60hz monitors have atrocious input lag
144hz virtually nullifies it down to 3-4ms from average 20-30ms on 60hz
also browsing and text scrolling feels nicer
Most games don’t even have 4K textures
I think if you sit in front of the monitor you won't even notice the curved screen
The only issue is the VA panel, if they improved the viewing angle I think it's a good deal. I was considering either that model or the VA curved at 60hz
I recently switched to 4K too, and I have the same experience. BUT it's exactly the same experience anons who went to 144hz are describing; so I can get into that. Both upgrades are hard to go back from.
But yes, even playing something on 1440p feels like playing on a sludge covered screen now.
I'm glad I actually bought a 4K 60hz display, now I just set it to 2160i 120hz for fast gamin g.
I like the interlaced effect it reminds me of my childhood and it's so smooth.
>want to buy a good monitor
>would have to upgrade everything else to properly use it
Im never going to make it
>144hz virtually nullifies it down to 3-4ms from average 20-30ms on 60hz
Thats fucking bullshit. Go read some actual monitor reviews. Its pretty hard to find monitors with bad input lag these days and when it comes to response time even IPS panels can get enough for you to not get any ghosting or overshoot.
>from average 20-30ms on 60hz
That's not true man. Which 60hz monitors have 20-30ms pixel response time?
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More than 600 dollars.. why so expensive?
if you browwse a lot you will notice, it's not as a big curve as on photos but it'st here, i've tried one
honestly if you multitask don't buy it
ONLY for gaming or movies sure, if you use pc for something besides it like everyone - don't
Is a 480hz worth it?
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just skip to lag section, this 144hz got 18ms of lag
Yes, it looks smooth as fuck and feels great in shooters. Also you can have vsync on and not have terrible input lag anymore.
It's really cool but a bit of a novelty.
Mine is a 144hz 1080p TN panel, I didn't care much for the difference of TN vs IPS until I compared the screens of her 1080p IPS laptop screen to mine when we were both emulating MHFU. Shit was niiice.
Get a 120hz IPS panel.
I would rather just get 60fps and comfortable max all settings in all games
You don’t really need vsync at high framerates
I've got a 600 I've been enjoying playing games 1080p 30-60FPS. I feel this is fine and it's a mental thing afterwards.
I still shit on kids in anything multiplayer.
Their personal preference is graphics, and right now my personal preference is having the $500 dollars in my bank. Saving up for a truck and plane tickets for new zealand.
Prices are going to go down. They have to.
vsync increases lag, user
then it doesn't matter because the game is slow as fuck
Blame nVidia's G-Sync greed. You can buy an equivalent FreeSync (IPS, 144Hz, 27") monitor for as low as $350.
>4k textures
Do you even know how fucking retarded the things you're saying sound?
Pixel response time IS NOT INPUT LAG
Pay attention, input lag will never be lower than 9ms
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There are monitors with 10ms input lag but awful pixel response time causing blurry image and ghosting
Rtings say that pixel response time is good below 20ms BUT for gaming the ideal is to have a monitor with lower than 8ms
This one has quite high pixel response time but awesome input lag
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This Asus has 5.5ms pixel response time which is amazing
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I believe Dell is using LG panels so LG would have similar results (but some claim they are faster)
A 144Hz monitor is only worth getting if you're gonna invest a couple thousand dollars into your PC to have the hardware to actually run games at that high a frame rate.
There's still tearing.
Yes, and?
I play Rocket League at 144fps on PC
I played on my friend's PS4 at 60fps and it was fucking terrible. There's a big difference.
1080->1440 was pretty big jump for me, imagine 4K feels nice
hardware isn't there yet, 1080ti is only card that can barely in some games keep 60
two more generations, maybe
eventually 4k screens will become as cheap as 1080p screens are now, yes.
Though when i bought my first full HD display some 7 odd years ago, it wasnt that much more expensive than they are now. So it could be there's simply a 'bottoming out' point of prices where it wouldn't make sense to sell them for any less, save for revolutionary advancements in panel production.
>Yes, and?
So, you don't mind your game being unresponsive? Who am I to judge, I guess.
>There's still tearing.
can you see it at 144hz? I can't. it's on technical level still there, but monitor refreshes too quickly for me to notice
I should be upgrading to 2x1440p from a single 1080p this Wednesday, I'm pretty hyped
but if you won't play in 4K why buy a 4K display? It will upscale the image and introduce artifacts
No, please explain to me the benefit of 4K resolution when the game doesn’t have 4K textures. If you’re going to spout off about how 4K is a marketing term, I’m going to fuck your mom.
144hz + Freesync/G-Sync + Decent Graphics Card= Motion in game run as smooth as butter.
You won't want to go back.
Are the Zowie monitors halfway decent? I'm a third world fag and it's all I can find here.
I have both a 144hz monitor and a 60hz monitor dual screen mode.
You can tell the difference. Easily by moving one folder/program to the next screen with drag/drop
Only if you play fast paced online shooters, and are serious about it. Otherwise I'd prioritize image quality over refresh rate.
because some (mainly older) games' optimization forces me to do so.
I didn't know this, and pretty much all new titles run flawlessly at 4k
Learn to read and get back to me.
Yeah I still see it. Some games aren't as bad as others though.
How much did you pay?
I discovered one of the zowie is using the same 2013 Benq release but for a high price
can't you finda 120hz or 75hz monitors for a cheaper price? You could look for LG and Acer. If you live in asia you can look for iiyama
Meme tier bleeding edge cucks. How's youre quadruple sli 1080s? You can drop almost a grand on this shit now or get in a few years when it's the norm for $200.
Enjoy your broken prototype technology.
Sure. But even 1080ti is weak for it, so im sitting on 60hz 21:9
Went from 60hz to 165hz. I see the difference between 120 fps and 165 fps. Anything below 90 starts to become unacceptable and choppy.
It's a term for dumb-dumbs. It ambiguous as fuck and makes no sense whatsoever; because actual texture size (which is the only thing the 4K could refer to) varies depending on the size of the object it should cover. There could be literally thousands of 48x48 textures, and a game would still look great.
I'm quite sure you don't even have any idea what it was supposed to mean, when you're sprouting "4K textures"
Retard question but
Does your computer need better hardware to use 144hz monitors?
Yeah. Your graphics card has to be more powerful, because it's drawing the game more times per second.
no, just to use it
to run games faster yes
any dell owner here? they claim they offer 3 year warranty ... if a single dead pixel is found they claim they ship a new monitor to you
oh yeah, your videocard must have DP 1.4 or higher to run at 144hz
that entirely depends on what resolution you're planning on playing.
But aside from that variable: no, you absolutely don't need better hardware.
>they claim they ship a new monitor to you
haha, doubt. I used IPS dell for 5 years, loved it
It means textures that have features noticeable on displays with 3840x2160 resolution as opposed to textures designed for 1920x1080 displays which do not look any different on 3840x2160 displays. Faggot.
>not having 1GHz monitor
i'd love to read the part where they claim that.
Most brands claim that a couple of dead pixels (don't pin me down on the exact number) is counted as 'collateral damage' and no viable reson for a refund or return.
good number would be 3Ghz actually, scientifically proven smoothness limit
If that's the case I don't want it because I can still semi tolerate 30 for console games. If I make even 60 FPS look like shit it's gonna suck. Especially since most PC games are locked to 60 now anyway
I got two U2417Hs. The image quality is fantastic and i never notice any ghosting in them, but its a 60hz monitor. I don't mind it though.