We have no beginning. We have no end. We are infinite...

>We have no beginning. We have no end. We are infinite. Millions of years after your civilization has been eradicated and forgotten, we will endure.
>We are legion. The time of our return is coming. Our numbers will darken the sky of every world.
>We are eternal. The pinnacle of evolution and existence. Before us, you are nothing. Your extinction is inevitable. We are the end of everything.
>We impose order on the chaos of organic evolution. You exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it.
>Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh. You touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
>There is a realm of existence so far beyond your own you cannot even imagine it. I am beyond your comprehension. I am Sovereign.
>Reaper? A label created by the Protheans to give voice to their destruction. In the end, what they chose to call us is irrelevant. We simply... are.
>Organic life is nothing but a genetic mutation, an accident. Your lives are measured in years and decades. You wither and die. We are eternal, the pinnacle of evolution and existence. Before us, you are nothing. Your extinction is inevitable. We are the end of everything.
>Your civilization is based on the technology of the mass relays. Our technology. By using it, your civilization develops along the paths we desire. We impose order on the chaos of organic life. You exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it.
>My kind transcends your very understanding. We are each a nation - independent, free of all weakness. You cannot grasp the nature of our existence
>We have no beginning. We have no end. We are infinite. Millions of years after your civilization has been eradicated and forgotten, we will endure.
>Your words are as empty as your future. I am the Vanguard of your destruction. This exchange is over.

What did he mean by that?

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>I don't give a shit about you but I'm still going to tell you how big my cannon is

Even playing this as a kid I knew this was goofy shit.

Were they really going to spare Saren?

edgy shit, but the voice made it sound credible

also sovereign was kind of a haughty twat, thinking he could take on the main civilisations' seat by himself

>Were they really going to spare Saren?
Yes, in the same sense they spared the Collector General

>We're a really well established villain but we kicked out the best writer for the series so we had some hacks come up with a really shitty conclusion because they had no idea how to write a good motivation or backstory or even leave it open-ended with some satisfying solutions.

>We are the Ur-Quan Kohr-Ah.
>We cleanse our destiny.
>You will soon die.
>Make whatever rituals are necessary for your species.

>In the twenty thousand years of our Mission we have heard more pleas for mercy than you can possibly imagine.
>Civilizations which saw their doom before them called upon their geniuses to calm us to no avail.

>We are self-sufficient. We need nothing. We want nothing beyond the total destruction of all non-Ur-Quan sentients.

>You are filth. It is now your time to be cleansed.

>really well established villain
You're kidding, right? The Reaper are garbage tier villains. I mean, that whole speech with Sovereign spell it out for you. "Hey, machine that wiped out all life 50k years ago, can you explain yourselves or your motivation?" "Ha ha, no. Here's some meaningless bluster about how we're so much better than you. Try and remember it when I get my ass handed to me by an insignificant human at the moment I'm about to win"

reinstalling

uqm has 10/10 VA

red confirmed canon color

>company tries to lead up the big bad as this omnipotent being that mortals could never destroy
>suddenly they realise that idea is fucking stupid and do a complete 180 and fuck it up hard
>fucking Destiny and Mass Effect

I can't wait to see how they fuck up DA DARKNESS.

>actually we're just big robots you can kill during boss battles lol

literally shivans but shitty

>itt people can't comprehend something that seems impossible only because it outside of our imagination

kek

>Sovereign tells Shepard "you can't understand what we do"
>Harbinger tells Shepard "you can't understand what we do"
>Random reaper tells Shepard "you can't understand what we do"
>People got mad all over the globe because they couldn't understand what they did


"We create machines to kill you so you don't completely destroy yourselves with your own machines" is hard to understand as a single sentient being but it's not illogical for a machine that can't understand what means being alive.

Stop that gross blinking!

>Lol, joke, I was just being edgy, in fact none of this makes a fucking sense

He was just talking too much because he's weak.

Hold! What you are doing to us is wrong. Why do you do this thing?

>What did he mean by that
>he
EXCUSE you, I think you meant to write "Zer" there! Way to engage in cis-gendered humancentric discriminatory language towards a pansexual being. And after Bioware worked so hard to inclusiveness!

Imo the best villain in vidya.

>Kid
>Mass Effect

*blocks your path*

*retcons ur're game*

mass effect is 10 years old, he could have played the game when he was 10 and be 20.

The time has come. You require cleansing.

>"me and my species are super incomprehensible to you"
>be a bunch of over-sized insects exterminating space-faring civilisations in the galaxy every 50k years or so

wow, truly unfathomable

post yfw they managed to ruin THIS.

They obviously fucked them up by explaining them, you dolt. They were perfect in me1.

>We understand how hard it is to fight things 2km long in a third person shooter
>So we made baby versions of ourselves so you could feel like you're accomplishing something

>we couldn't figure out anything for you to do in Mass Effect 2, so we invented a new enemy to hold you over until the 3rd game

>yeah they're bug people, and they're also protheans

>yeah it's a retcon, fuck you

>you you don't actually do anything regarding the main plot in 2, fuck you

>People actually like ME2.

>you actually stop the reaper/keeper from activating the portal in me1
>its to stop them completely
>somehow it doesnt stop them

>start ME3
>you're in the same position that you were at the end of ME1
>ME2 literally doesn't even fucking matter

>people think ME had good writing

ME1 had brilliant writing.

lol

lmao

What was badly written?

>we are eternal, the pinnacle of evolution
>no beginning

makes no sense

>this is now bad writing because its beyond our knowing of the universe
>Why isn't everything explained? I hate mysteries!
Nice one, idiot.

if they evolved then they had a progression which means they had a beginning, literally contradictory

it's like the repairman said "2+2=5" and you're saying "HOW WILL THE MYSTERY OF 2+2=5 BE REVEALED 9/10 SCI-FI-MYSTERY IF ONLY MORE QUEER ALIEN ROMANCES"

ME was love letter to all space opera and movies like alien and other shit from our childhood
For example if you play as a fem shepard colonist, your personal quest has literally same lines as Ripley-little girl from aliens.
It was great, but with me2 they moved to the nu shit

>Saren: Master Sovereign, might I inquire- what is the Reapers' plan?
>Sovereign: It is evil. Meheh, it is so evil. It is a bad, bad plan that will hurt many people that are good. I think it's great, because it's so bad.

it was never meant to stop them completely, it was meant to delay them so they'd have to take the scenic route

but yes, mass effect 2 was a 20 hour sidequest

>ME was love letter to all space opera and movies like alien and other shit from our childhood
too bad it was made by untalented people

Why would an alien lifeform quote human scripture?

What a clumsily written mess. The underlying idea could have been fuel for something much greater if BioWare actually had good writers.

Universal translator, dude just turn your brain off lmao

I liked this actually. I felt it made at least a tad bit of sense unlike the star child fuckery god I hated that little shit so fucking much

You're going to say the entire game's writing is bad because of one line that is meant to be cryptic and make no sense to the player?
>My kind transcends your very understanding

A placeholder text the writers left in until they come up with a better explanation in future games. Except they didn't

I think he meant that they have no beginning and no end. They were infinite. Millions of years after our civilization had been eradicated and forgotten, they would endure. They were legion. The time of their return was coming. Their numbers would darken the sky of every world. It's heavily implied that they were eternal. The pinnacle of evolution and existence. Before them, we were nothing and that our extinction was inevitable. They were the end of everything. They impose order on the chaos of organic evolution. We exist because they allow it, and we would end because they demand it. Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh. We touched his mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding. There is a realm of existence so far beyond our own we cannot even imagine it. They were beyond our comprehension. He was Soverign. Reaper? A label created by the Protheans to give voice to their destruction. In the end, what they chose to call them is irrelevant. They simply... were. Organic life is nothing but a genetic mutation, an accident. Our lives are measured in years and decades. We wither and die. They were eternal, the pinnacle of evolution and existence. Before us, we are nothing. Our extinction is inevitable. They were the end of everything. Our civilization is based on the technology of the mass relays. Their technology. By using it, our civilization developed along the paths they desired. They impose order on the chaos of organic life. We exist because they allowed it, and we will end because they demand it. Their kind transcends our very understanding. They were each a nation - independent, free of all weakness. We cannot grasp the nature of their existence. They had no beginning. They have no end. They were infinite. Millions of years after our civilization has been eradicated and forgotten, they will endure. Our words were as empty as our future. He is the Vanguard of our destruction and that the exchange was over.

Is he talking to me while he's eating?

lol, that's a bone pit, not a dinner plate. he's actually hovering above it pretty far.

>kill yourself my man
>ok, thanks shepard

They were interesting villains in the first ME but they had no idea where to go from that point.

ME1 isn't perfect but everything after it was absolutely retarded.

How much time did they have to fly?
a few weeks?
wow
Why even making so much trouble for this one device when they can reach milky way in weeks.

ME 1 was rough around the edges but it has established a consistent setting with background lore and consistent rules. I can give it a lot of slack for being the first game in the trilogy, meaning it doesn't have to explain everything at once to leave plot hooks for the sequels.
ME 2 and 3 has thrown everything out and decided to make a Cerberus themed fanfiction instead. And the whole galaxy became centered about Shepard like a shitty action movie instead of various species and groups having their own goals and motivations dictated by their backstory and lore.

are you talking about ME1?
that delayed them for 2+ years

>2 years
>for a species that is infinite years old

b8

the mass relays are a tool they use to quickly seize control by cutting off travel between star systems and isolating all of the civilizations so they can't work together, the time it takes for them to travel is irrelevant

If only I didn't lose all my notes, I'd reinstall. I'm still mad I fucked myself in the endgame, shit is hard

nigga you dumb. That game ends with Shepard saying "the Reapers are still out there". The game acknowledges that you didn't really stop them.

The Citadel relay was used so they could stamp out all resistance quickly, severing communications and transit right off the bat and then take their sweet time flying from world to world to kill everything.

The one time they couldn't do that, the galaxy had enough warning time to somewhat prepare for them and fight back. Honestly the Crucible was fucking retarded.

They wrote themselves into a corner when they decided to bring back the Reapers. It's such a retarded decision. Mass Effect should have been episodic with no over arching plot.

2 years for everybody else to get ready

>guy asks for example of bad writing
>gets example
are you a literal faggot? would explain how stupid you are and why you want to argue about everything. remember that every pedophile is a faggot, bisexuals too

>you can't comprehend us

nigga you are just a mech cuttlefish that shoots lazers with a superiority complex

>speech given in that voice is actually really cool and drives home the otherworldly threat that is the reapers
>only years later realize that this entire scene was a horrible fucking idea because the writers wrote themselves into a corner and there's no way to somehow defeat the unfathomable uber-space-cthulhus in a way that doesn't feel underwhelming
>further compound this by having ME2 basically be a side story that doesn't set up at all how you're going to actually fight or defeat the reapers
>finally trudge into ME3 with only your shittiest writers left and the goals YOU CANNOT COMPREHEND are revealed to be "we're a bunch of synthetics who genocide you so synthetics can't genocide you :^)"

how in the everloving fuck did it go so wrong?

How did the reapers get there in 2 years without the mass relays?

Retards cant into lovecraft

ME2 might've been completely useless to the overall plot but it was sure as fuck one of the best games out there
It was fun, characters were cool, universe was cool, shit was cool all around

Mac Walters

Because the driving conflict of the narrative was ended conclusively, but the series was forced to continue past that point.

See also: Halo

They used regular FTL, which is slow as shit. But they're immortal machine-gods so the usual restrictions of things like "have to refuel" and "have to discharge drive core" don't apply to them so they were flying non-stop for those entire two years.

It's like you're really an inbred redneck from Sup Forums.

He fondles the bones and remembers their cleansing.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Races_in_Revelation_Space#Inhibitors_.2F_Wolves

>in 3 billion years some shit is going to go down
>apparently no one else will ever advanced to the point where it isn't an issue to them in those 3 billion years
>so let's just kill them if they try

That's pretty goddamn stupid

>The chronology of the Revelation Space universe extends to roughly one billion years into the past, when the "Dawn War" — a galaxy-spanning conflict over the availability of various natural resources — resulted in almost all sentient life in the galaxy being wiped out.
They were basically the apex civilization.

>Our writers have no idea what they're doing and don't know what makes for a compelling antagonist.