Is this game an unabashed masterpiece or are there glaring flaws?

Is this game an unabashed masterpiece or are there glaring flaws?

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The biggest flaw when I played it is that there's no sense of direction. Now I know that's meant to be the point, but the game starts with a direction; the direction just quickly disappears while pretending it's still there, and you're meant to fuck about doing random quests to pass time until the next story event triggers; except those quests appear and disappear based on an invisible timer, so you might go through three towns before finding a quest, and once the timer advance, you're supposed to go back to towns you've already been through to do the new quests that appeared there, but you have no way of knowing when the timer advances and thus no way of knowing there are new quests available in old towns; not to mention, quest givers don't have an icon or anything, you have to talk to every NPC until you find something.

>Unlimited Saga
>the game ends

0/10 threw it in the garbage

Yeah either they wanted you to play for an unlimited amount of time or use a guide.

I'm a huge SaGa fan and I liked Unlimited but it's still a very weak entry and has plenty of glaring flaws. People are right to shit on it and there's a reason the entire series almost fucking died because of it.

Even once you understand how everything works it's not fun.
The game is too slow and any potentially interesting systems sabotage themselves too much for any kind of enjoyment.
You can spend a half hour on a sidequest and basically get nothing out of it besides some pity HP up because the game decided you don't deserve any of the hexagons you actually want.
Just listen to the soundtrack and look at the boxart and forget everything else about it.

The soundtrack is a masterpiece for sure:
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Isn't it literally just classic D&D that can be played by 1 person?

Who is the most fun character to start with? I tried the little witch, but I kind of don't like having such a small party, and magic seems kind of useless right now.

No, it's different than that. Skills and stat growths are controlled by where you put plates on a grid that give certain overworld and combat skills. There really aren't any other games I've seen that are quite like it.

Possibly the best thing that came out of that game was its soundtrack. Very games will ever even come close to it. That being said, the actual game is very lackluster. The rolling system, while interesting, was executed very poorly and killed pretty much all its replay value. The last time I tried to play this game, I couldn't even tell what was going on in the first hour or the last.

>Masterpiece
No way. And that's from someone who actually likes SaGa.

Unlimited is just too obtuse for one thing. Even for the series if you don't even remotely know how to actually play the game you're fucked before you even so much as start the fucking game. I know that Unlimited is just trying (Keyword there) to be something of a dice roller in video game format it just didn't quite work out.

Some incompetent douchebag at Squaresoft made Final Fantasy II and the bosses shooed him off to work on his own project which became the SaGa franchise so he wouldn't ruin any of their good games.

Yeah, it's too bad they then fired the good people working on their main franchise, so now they only make bad games. Well, the new SaGa game that just came out looks to be pretty good. Sucks that it's probably going to remain JP only due to it being stuck on the Playstation Mors.

"It's the X6 of SaGa games."
Agree or disagree?
>so he wouldn't ruin any of their good games.
Yeah, it's a shame Square only gave us garbage FF and we never got any of their good stuff like Hanjuku Hero.

We're getting Alliance Alive next year which is a SaGa game in all but name.

More like the X7.
But I want the real SaGa game!

>But I want the real SaGa game!
Make some blood sacrifices then. Maybe they might consider it.

>which is a SaGa game in all but name
That's like saying 7th Dragon (1) is an Etrian Odyssey game. They're similar, but notably different.

just a heads up, romancing saga 2 is coming to vita in english (for real this time)

Even once you figure it out it's still not a very fun game.

>and "other" consoles
This is what took so fucking long. Fuck you, SE.
Bring the vita version, THEN focus on the others.

The Japanese vita version works on 3.60, the West release will be the same, right?

Right?

Has there even been anyone who has actually 'figured it all out'?

Well you can read a guide

>SE
>Not ever fucking up

Are the other games in the series better, I thought they were all about wandering around doing random shit like that. I tried Saga Frontier and I was just as lost and confused as when I played Unlimited.

A hell of a lot less confusing, but still so. SaGa Frontier seems to be the least confusing, and I ended up loving that game despite being heavily unfinished.

Was there ever an official guide release for this game? Any time I see someone mention a guide for this game I always get redirected to a fan one on GamesFAQ that reads like an encyclopedia in a foreign language.

I thought SF was very straightforward, the only scenario where I felt lost at times was T260

Try again with Emelia, her objectives are laser guided

remember renting this as a kid, had no idea what the fuck i was doing

The least confusing are the gameboy SaGa games, which got localized as Final Fantasy Legend 1, 2 and 3.
Then probably Frontier 2, since you can just follow the in game chronology as all the scenarios are labeled with dates.

It had one. In Japanese.

Was this game well, or better, received in Japan?

Just finished final fantasy legend, is there a consensus on which version of saga 2 is superior?

Just play the remakes of SaGa 1-3 if you want a linear and consistent >story
Just be warned that some of the character redesigns in 2-DS are objectively terrible whether you knew what they looked like or not.

Actually. Yeah Unlimited sold far better. Sold half a million.

Granted it didn't mean anything in the end when SaGa was kill for like ten years afterwards

>Just finished final fantasy legend, is there a consensus on which version of saga 2 is superior?

Both versions are superior
Saga2 isn't much longer than 1 but better, it certainly won't hurt you to put in the 5-10 hours and then try out the remake

Depends.
The original is very straight-forward and speedy with an emulator's speed-up button, but Monster-raising requires more record-making on your out-of-game self and has no in-game records.
The remake has some more stuff you and the enemies/bosses can do, and even has a sort of ghetto "skill" attack system which affects the bonds of your units. Story-wise is mostly the same, but has a few extra material or clarified material (i.e. isn't limited to a Game Boy text box).

I'd say give both a shot, but: if you're pressed for time, go for GB. If you can take it easy, go DS.

Is there a more avant garde JRPG than Unlimited SaGa?

>no monster
>[2] humans

Knuckle Sandwich lol

Evergrace
Knights in the Nightmare

More like unfinished saga. It's the crackdown of PS2

Fuck monsters they can't even ride tanks and throw nukes

NO IT'S SHIT STOP POSTING THIS THREAD ABOUT THIS SHIT GAME EVERY DAY

So how's Legend of Legacy?

I picked Asellus when I played it. Is it normal I got lost with her or am I just a casual?

Garbage.

GOAT OST.
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Evergrace confused the fuck out of me as a kid but I still beat it.....I think.

The start of her scenario is basically designed to misdirect you.
You're mostly just told by NPCs and such to stay put and grind, and there IS that really tough boss near the top of the castle, so that might seem like what you're suppose to do, but that's a red herring.
You're actually suppose to be getting the fuck out of Dodge.

A personal favorite of mine but I've stopped recommending it to people for a few reasons

It's been too many years since I played to remember the exact details, but I remember escaping the castle with a girl in a white dress then recruiting a mermaid and fighting some kind of water boss. I got lost after that because I could go anywhere but didn't know what to do.

This sounds dope at .75 speed

You probably got a hint from an NPC, but it was dialogue you could only see once.
A lack of a synopsis/journal was a problem for a lot of older games, especially if you put them done for a while and then came back to them.

After the SaGa 3 remake, will they remake Frontier? That game had a lot of cut content.

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What are other games that play like Red's route? The ability to transform into a super hero, but having to do it in secret, for example?

>Knights in the Nightmare

I somehow bumbled my way to chapter 20 in that game and upon realizing I had ruined my units due to not realizing a certain system had existed all game, I gave up rather than let my soul be devoured more than it already had.