You're fucking stupid if you don't think they should add dual spec and LFD to this

You're fucking stupid if you don't think they should add dual spec and LFD to this.

Okay with the bait OP out of the way can we have a Classic thread? I'm so fucking hyped.
I tried playing retail to stop it but it didn't help and I just unsubbed

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Hype here too my friend, currently leveling a shaman on Lights Hope to satiate my hype and also using the time to gather as much info as I can so when Classic drops i can hit the ground running.

>I tried playing retail to stop it but it didn't help and I just unsubbed

You don't actually want to play classic. you just want to be excited about the thing you want. keep your expectations in check lest you for the what was do there and?

it's gonna be 1-2 years, man. I'd suggest playing on a private server in the meantime. I'm doing it with my friends and we're having a lot of fun so far.

>Light's Hope

Freshness begins Dec 1st my friend

Ive never played a level 60 mage ever, are they fun at 60?
I mained a Warlock so I don't know if I can switch classes

>lest you for the what was do there and?
are you okay user

The only group finder I would be okay with would be the custom group finder they have in legion where you can post a group and get people, and the only reason I'm okay with it is because even the 1.X addon API allows for that functionality. Basically, if they don't include it in the base, some autist will make a clunky addon version anyways so why not just include the clean, good one from Legion. The same goes for almost every feature that used to be an addon and became part of the base UI (raid frames, threat meter, focus targets, etc.). People are going to download addons anyways, just include them. Any changes that can't be done with addons though, like dual spec, shouldn't be included.

Mage is easy as fuck and one of the best classes in every aspect of the game

Do you like using frostbolt and only frostbolt?

I really want them to tune raids to be harder, even if we start at 1.1

Mages are fucking fun in PvP if you go pyro.

>duel spec
Sure, maybe.

>lfg/lfd
No. This is coming from someone who started in wotlk. I played on nostalrius for a while when it was up and it definitely improved the experience without it.

That being said, I am not against changes to vanilla. I think there could definitely be some bits a pieces played around with.

I never played vanilla for an extended period so someone with more experience can correct me if I am wrong here. From my understanding though, the balance in vanilla between classes was pretty terrible. If that was a problem, then I don't see harm in "fixing" that so long as they don't alter class mechanics.

>I don't see harm in "fixing" that so long as they don't alter class mechanics.

Who /paladin/ here?

What about the meeting stone functionality that got added in tbc (i think tbc pre-patch, so the patch after 1.12 - but i'd have to re-look in case I'm wrong).
That always felt like a decent medium as it still requires people to head there to summon, and the original function as a group-maker could be used and improved on as well. If I recall no one used it, but when they did it would just make groups with the five whoevers signed up, so that could be 5 rogues.
But like 3 people total in the entire world ever used it.
Also in addition to your idea - and you're right, some autist would just make an addon to do it if not - it should based on what you're saying still require people to travel to the dungeon and all that. I think the main thing people have issue with is the teleporting and cross-server garbage. i could be wrong as I am legally retarded.

People are actually going to buy this trash. So much nostalgic memories are going to be ruined when they realize how much it has aged and how flawed it was.

they don't need to alter class mechanics, they just need to increase the number of debuffs allowed on raid bosses

You can not really fix class mechanics without it causing a chain reaction of having to fix more and suddenly the game isn't vanilla at all.

>no rebuttal
>greentext
>posts meme picture in place of constructive comment

I don't know what I expected.

Absolutely. The functionality should be used to let you form a party with people on your server, no different than if you whispered people and /i invited them. You'd still have to go to the instance manually.

I tried playing lightshope and it's just too tedious. I don't have the time nor the nostalgia levels to grind my way through again. LFD is too fun for me now. The RPG element was cool, but it will always be a memory of my 12 year old self.

Meeting stones result in people getting lazy and bullying people into going out to the stone while they sit in town. "Summon me or I'm leaving your group and joining a group that will summon me" it was pretty cancerous.

I specifically said for them not to alter class mechanics?

They balance without fucking up how classes are played.

Fuck off and kill yourself, wrathbabby

>>no rebuttal
>>greentext
>>posts meme picture in place of constructive comment
>I don't know what I expected.

YES CHANGE CLASS BALANCE WITHOUT CHANGING THE CLASSES THATS HOW IT WORKS XD

>class balance was terrible
There was a few specs that were useless, but every single class was viable in pve and pvp. Vanilla was more about classes than specs.

In vanilla, theres healing classes, dps classes, and a tanking class. Thats how it is and its fine the way it is. No, you cant dps as a pally, and no, you dont get to tank as a druid. Thats not what it was designed to do, deal with it. Retail is there for people who want their class to be able to do everything.

I would agree if not for the hundreds of thousands of people that play private servers of vanilla, not BC, not wrath, but Vanilla. There is something there that appeals to people.

Hey sometimes you used wands and I think you specced imp arcane missiles for vael since his aoe aura interrupted your frostbolts

Fixing is a problem in it self. If you give the Paladins (example) the ability to tank as good as a warrior while still have strong buffs and the ability to heal and ress in near wipes. What would be the point of having prot warriors then?

Its funny but also kind of stupid when idiots like you say this while theres thousands of people playing on private servers right now, proving you wrong.

Nothing strange about it. I liked BC but the world beyond the portal feelt empty as fuck.

Changes just numbers wouldn't really do much, most specs would still be broken because of their mechanics. For example to make things like shadowpriest work properly you'd have to give them more mana regen but that could potentially make them overpowered, or depending on where you put the ability to gain mana regen also be something healers could get.

Please don't waste more of your life on WoW anons. It isn't worth it. And I suspect most of you missed it.

>This kills the community

it'll only be 2 years, user!!!

The only change I want from Vanilla is working servers. That'd be good. Thanks.

This stupid hype mechanic is getting out of hand, telling people years in advance about their project, is only going to make the itch grow, and make people to try out the private servers, play for a week or less and realize how shit was vanilla, then just lose interest in the whole thing.

When this crap actually released it's going to be so prostituted you won't be able to tell the difference between it and NuWoW. Blizzard is forced to make a popular product, they won't be satisfied with 10k faggots in 3 servers stroking their dicks about farming Molten core. If they release a new product is going to need to be toned down so much that millions will subbing to it, they're going to streamline it so much it will make HS looks like fucking 3d chess.

>yfw the tavern music is replaced by youtube.com/watch?v=1waVSu4adDM

he may or may not be an idiot but itemization changes would go a long way. It wouldn't suddenly make hybrid dps "viable" but it has the potential to solve some issues.
(i'm for zero changes, btw, just saying)

a shitload of people play wrath servers.
tbc servers would be more of a thing but development got sucked into high profile savior type servers that either faded away or got blizzard'd. TBC servers are lightyears behind vanilla and wrath servers and consequently are not very popular.
You can love tbc but not love tbc enough to suffer through underground fel reavers being a normal thing.

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mage is like playing with a cheat engine in vanilla. teleports, free food/drink and shit tons of gold from dm:e farming

Was Vurtne was the best mage ever?

What are you talking about citizen?

to put this guys comment into context, warmane, a series of wotlk, bc, cata and mop private servers, gets 3k-10k on wotlk and 0.4k-8k on bc.

>warmane.com/information

Some servers are altered. For example, lordaeron server has lfg disabled and some severs have different xp/gold rates that are more focused on end game raiding or pvp.

apparently warmane fakes their population numbers

Another reason why I couldn't take shitty pandas seriously

>see badass paladin on loading screen all the time
>see paladin in game
>wearing a damn dress and sucking dick for the opportunity to healslut for raids

How could they fuck up *that* badly?

They definitely do, plus a fake queue to force you to pay. But that doesn't mean they still don't have a lot of players.
Not shilling for warmane but people play there. Probably the best current option for tbc as well but my suggestion would be to skip tbc until gummy leaves his code in his will to shenna or something.

some hybrid meme that actually fits the class fantasy won't fit well with the holy trinity meme

>lest you for the what was do there and?

>quit mmos since 2 years ago but now REALLY want to go balls deep in wow classic and be a healer like i always was
bros, hold me... i just hope it isnt $15 a month.

You CAN actually tank as a Druid (with the right gear setup, after putting your time in as a healer as is proper), and you CAN DPS as a Paladin (but protip: it's not about stacking Strength like a wannabe Warrior).

In fact, you are capable of doing just about any hybrid role in a PvP or high-end PvE scenario except for Prot Paladin, which would fundamentally unbalance the game if it were made viable since it's a class only available to one faction. There literally is no argument hybrids can make.

become my healslut drink my semen.

Sorry, I am a heal-dom who bullies the tank and dps, and scares them by letting them get "too low"

Can I get a quick rundown on Shaman in vanilla?

I'm torn between that, priest, or warrior. I will have a buddy to level with for warrior which will ease that pain.

Why the fuck would anyone want dual spec?

If they add LFD/Dual Spec/Flying, I might actually sub.

After playing that shit all the way through Naxx 40 I have NO desire to relive that broken boring garbage.

All the classes were viable, just some specs were absolutely terrible, and Warriors were the absolute gods of the game that had the highest damage and were the only viable tank
If they wanted to make bear, tankadin, or hell even shaman tank a bit more viable I wouldn't complain

The vanilla world map doesn't support flying at all

Shamans are so-so healers, and both of their DPS specs are way more suited for PvP. Their totem utility can't be denied however, but it's at its clunkiest at this point.

Leveling with them is quite easy though, but getting gear is a pain in the ass in the leather-dominated Horde until you can upgrade at 40.

If your buddy is playing something the can heal, Warrior is pretty substantial for that. Otherwise it's a relatively even split between Priest-Warrior.

Shaman is very good raid healer, elemental is god in PvP, Enhancement is leveling spec and if you're lucky you can get a special snowflake raidspot with nightfall.

Safe to say if you roll shaman you should expect to heal.

>lest you for the what do there and?
I knew it that damn cat from darksouls does shitpost on here.

>flying

You want PvP to die off abruptly when the server pop is generally max level?

Depending on which patch they start with Windfury can proc Windfury. The most fun I had in Vanilla was oneshotting warriors in full plate.

It'll be better off without you my man.

Wow blizzard better add everything that ruined wow so this retail soyboy can play!

Shamans are priest-tier healers, aka very good when the opportunity affords them the time to maximize chain heal
and enhance is a good meme in PvP like every other class

If windfury procs fail you, are you useless as Enhance?

Isn't enhance the good pvp spec?

He probably will play paladin so we will be good. What are the chances of me getting to be DPS warrior?

They really should add dual spec though. There is no reason not to have it. Its just an arbitrary time waster. Mounts at 40 is too high too. Just another time waster. It doesnt make the game harder, just more of a slog to get through zones.

Wrong.

I thought this too but by not having dual spec, you commit more to an aspect of your character.

Being a spec class instead of just a class deepens the rpg aspect

>timewaster
Welcome to Vanilla! That's the point! It makes accomplishing those things that much more satisfying. If that doesn't sound like something you want then you don't actually want Vanilla back.

Fun and novelty.

Enhancement only works in PvP with Hand of Ragnaros.

You'd have a point if you didn't have to constantly respec talents for different raids and bosses.

A non-issue. It takes like 5 seconds to respec and it's not even expensive.

That's the point though. To nickel and dime your gold away. It was an economy decision in Vanilla to make it cost money which increased the value of gold across the board.

Go play retail if you want dualspecs.

We will never know with all the UI hiding, lens flare and other preset video editing garbage he did to hide his heavy reliance on engineering.

Look at Saerdna 3 instead of jumping on the meme bandwagon.

>It was an economy decision in Vanilla to make it cost money which increased the value of gold across the board.
and this is bad... how

>it's not even expensive
50 gold isn't chump change in vanilla

You both misinterpreted my post. I don't think it is bad.

Everyst
Fresh Server begins Dec 1st
No chinks
Same code as Lights Hope + improvements like shared quest loot
Enforced English only

Learn how to market.

It doesn't just take 5 seconds you fag. You have to go all the way back to a trainer and then youll have to get all the way back to the raid. Just wasting time for no reason that to try to get more months out of people.

Played WoW during beta and release amd I don't see what the big deal is

So, can someone explain how this Legacy vs. Current WoW work?

Does the previous version of the game become obsolete after a major expansion is released? Why isn’t WoW one continuous game instead of having this rift? When did this rift between the game happen?

I never got the chance to play WoW in its hay day, but I always hear people gush over it. I haven’t played current WoW either.

>Just wasting time for no reason
This mindset is why the game is bad now.

it's a good addition though
think of another cool gold sink

Considering this because I'm way too hyped for a game 1+ years out

Really don't feel like losing my progress though.

>people missing the point as to why Vanilla had 'time wasters' built into the core of the game
It's called a sense of accomplishment as well as having something to work towards. You know why WoW is extremely boring now? Cause once you finish the core of what you can do in the game you are left with the extremely mind numbing tasks (AP grinding) and logging on ONLY to raid. The game becomes less of source of fun and more of a chore at that point.

Basically Cataclysm nuked all the old content into oblivion and people were understandably upset. Ever since then people have been asking for a server that restored all the old WoTLK, TBC, and Vanilla content, since that was the good shit.

Without getting too long winded, old wow was more grindy and alot harder. Leveling took days of gameplay. You were forced to communicate.

Today it takes way shorter amt of time to level, you can use a queue to group with people instead of talking, etc.

In fairness to both versions, old wow had alot of bullshit as far as balance (whole specs were useless) while in nu wow you can use any spec unelss you need to be absolutely cutting edge.

Tl Dr nu wow is more accessible

The previous version and all its content gets made worthless the second there is a new expansion. You're raising your level cap, going to new lands and doing new shit. The point of the game is to always be moving forward and getting stronger. But everytime a big expansion comes out classes get changed, things get rebalanced, and over several several expansions the game has entirely changed in its nature.

WoW is one in a series of vertical scaling MMO's. New content obsoletes old content so the player base moves on from expansion to expansion, largely abandoning one content.

This is opposed to horizontal scaling MMOs like Guild Wars or EVE where new expansions add content to the current power level of players.

Neither method is "correct" just different.

Consider it the last switch before Classic

>No chinks
never ever happening, they'll just hide in private channels/guild chat and send out the ones who speak broken english to sell shit.