Who will still be remembered in 10 years?

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Horizon Zero Dawn :^)

both of them

Came here to post this.

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Both, duh.

Witcher 3 was just another open world with no physics, quest markets, and cinematic experiences

BotW revolutionized the genre with a complex physics and chemistry system that involved amazing amounts of world interaction that really make the world feel immersive, and always encouraged exploration. It made a mockery out of every other open world game and will be remembered for redefining the paradigm of open world. It will be weird to go back and play any open world that doesn't have BotW's physics or world interaction and doesn't allow you to climb most surfaces. Imagine how limiting it will feel.

I legitimately see nothing about that game other than on this board, it's so weird
It's like it just vanished from existence

>BotW revolutionized the genre

P5

literally nothing due to the YOLO method of life

That's because it's SJW propaganda that failed

I like both.
I like going on adventures, I like Witcher 1-3 as well as Most Zelda games.

>It will be weird to go back and play any open world that doesn't have BotW's physics or world interaction and doesn't allow you to climb most surfaces

This. It already feels weird just going back to previous Zelda games, the fucking sidequests feel completely rudimentary in comparison to BotW's godlike shrine quests.

This.

I dare you to name one game, literally one other game, that has BotW's world interaction, physics, movement, or chemistry systems

NEITHER LOL

>shrine
>good

are we in bizzaro world

Both. I can't speak for Zelda because I haven't played it, but I don't get all the hype around The Witcher 3. I played through it and desu it was very mediocre. The combat is repetitive and boring as fuck.

Skyrim

I'm not saying you're wrong about the combat, because you're absolutely not, but I don't think most people play the witcher for the combat

>most people dont play this video game for its gameplay

I still don't understand this flavor text.... Can someone explain this to me?

I enjoy most of the shrines. As in, almost every shrine that wasn't a trial of combat.

>I dare you to name one game, literally one other game, that has BotW's world interaction, physics, movement, or chemistry systems
Ultima VI, Ultima VII, Ultima VII Part 2, Ultima Underworld, Ultima Underworld 2, Worlds of Ultima, Worlds of Ultima 2.

The shrines are good, yes, but I'm talking specifically about shrine quests.

>gameplay is just combat

hello soyboy

What about the shrine quest ones where you just walked into the shrine and got the reward?

>our nation totally needs this
>What climate refugees endured was really bad
>It completely deserves
Even drumpf doesn't talk this badly.

>he plays games for the CINEMATIC experience
>calls others soyboy

No modern games will be remembered in 10 years. The entire late 90s to modern era of "gaming" will only be remembered as one big joke.

The only time you ever get those is when reaching or finding the shrine is the actual puzzle, like when there's a Kass puzzle in the world itself. There's no shrine in the game that is just "here is an easy to find shrine and inside is a free reward".

>Sup Forums said botw would be talked about for years
>threads are dead on Sup Forums after a month
>PAID HARD DIFFICULTY DLC comes out, barely anyone cares
>finally gets some threads again at year end since it's award season

What happened?

So by your logic, Mario games have zero gameplay.

get this weebshit out of my sight

People are already nostalgic for early 2000's games and most definitely games released in 98 like MGS.

>mario games are CINEMATIC EXPERIENCE now

how stupid are you

I didn't even count those, as the challenge was outside of the shrine (either finding the shrine, getting to it because it's inside a maze, or solving a puzzle), so if I was to rate them, I'd rate them based on what they were locked behind.

That said, there's no excuse for this shrine stuff to waste so much time. Most of the shrines are just questionable, since you get inside and have to solve stuff, but the combat and enterpickupprizegetout really aggravate the situation. On top of that, there's what, 120 of them? They really should have made this shit faster.

At least BotW is a flawed gem, while Skyward Sword, for example, is a gemmed flaw.

What are you talking about? Mario games are 100% gameplay.

In a few years a new Zelda will come out like clockwork cheapening BotW.
Witcher 3 is RPG of the decade.

There is next to no combat in them and what little there is incredibly mundane and effortless.

why is this an either/or

Shitposting.

>only combat is gameplay

It's like you're braindead or something.

>Zelda punishes you for daring to engage in combat
>somehow that makes it good
Really makes me think.

Not Witcher 3, only faggots will remember it

NO CLIMATE CHANGE ISN'T REAL MY MIAMI PROPERTY IS SAFE

As a Dutchman it offends me that people just refuse to build goddamn dikes.

I never said that, I was asking the person who did say that if Mario game had zero gameplay because it has so little combat.

>tfw it took 20 years for a 3d open world game to have any depth at all

You're comparing a 2D platformer to an open world RPG. I think you may actually be retarded.

>NO CLIMATE CHANGE ISN'T REAL
It really isn't, though

>>Zelda punishes you for daring to engage in combat
What? How?

You know its true. Sup Forums has had Persona threads since Moot.

There will be Persona threads on Sup Forums if its still around in 10 years.

So do the fallout games, FO4 notwithstanding. Your point?

Destiny

The Witcher 3 for sure. It is the most awarded game of all time and will be played by more people. It also remains the best game of this console generation.

The weapon durability. At first it was fun, you could think of creative ways to kill stuff. Bomb them, fire barrels, etc. Then they change colors and it takes considerably more shit to kill them. Meanwhile they still drop 12 damage weapons while I have to sacrifice multiple 30+ ones to kill them. Zelda actively discourages you from fighting.

My point being is that I don't give a fuck about the Fallout series and never have, and Zelda punishes you for running into enemies and not just running past them.

>Zelda punishes you for daring to engage in combat
You want to see punishment? Try Neo Scavenger.

Only dumb modern "gamers" that care more about stylistic bullshit like MGS.

MGS is barely a fucking game. It's a pain in the ass storygame with shit gameplay. It'll be laughed at in the future, just like the rest of your "games".

Current gen?

Witcher 3
BotW
Horizon Zero Dawn
Bloodborne
Metal Gear Solid V
Nier Automata
Nioh
Dark Souls 3
Batman Arkham Knight
Assassin's Creed Origins

>2 Fromsoft games
How did they pull it off, lads?

>botw
>current gen

why does it look like a ps3 game then

Who cares? Keep talking about climate change isn't real while the sea level rises. The cause is irrelevant.

mindless drones and viral marketing

By making two good, memorable games

>The weapon durability.
But you get more weapons than you engage with. Every time.
Unless something goes seriously wrong.

Might as well say that Zelda punishes you for daring to engage n combat since you can die.

>add HL2 physics to empty open world game
>'wow, revolutionized '

This but switch "Witcher 3" and "BotW"

He was saying that Mario has no combat, you were implying that gameplay was only comvat

>Witcher 3
>looks amazing even after the downgrade
>great world, story, characters

>Zelda #27 or whatever it is
>nobody ever seems to discuss the story because only autists think the zelda games have story or “lore” as the brainlets put it
>just webms of the dumb shit you can do

Wow gee I wonder

Zelda games and Nintendo games cater to the mouth breathing masses which is why they get such high scores.

I started getting lower damage weapons which caused me to stop fighting. Combat is supposed to be fun. Not tedious.

Sounds like you need to git gud desu.

MGS 5

Fucking GTA V? Who cares about the chemistry system?

>half life 2 and garry's mod have these physics

Tired of hearing this bullshit. They do not, at all. Its just a fucking gravity gun, does not compare to BotW's amazing interplay of physics and chemistry

Zelda BotW barely has a story and that's OK because the gameplay is great. If you only care about the story, you should read a book instead.

>It'll be laughed at in the future
Actually, the first three are considered some of the best games of all time.

>filename
kek. Keep up the good work, hunter

>Filename isn't Tao Pai Pai
STEP
UP

Basically the same game with few tweaks here and there.

>I started getting lower damage weapons which caused me to stop fighting.
Meh. Weak enemies with weaker enemies die so easily. And the weapons that are strongers than theirs, with very few exceptions, last so much longer that you'll be able to annihilate half a dozen or so groups of mid tier enemies before the weapon breaks.

But the point is pretty much that.
The weapons dropped from low tier enemies are easily used to defeat mid tier enemies, and ridiculously easily used to defeat low tier enemies.
The weapons dropped from mid tier enemies are easily used to defeat high tier enemies, and ridiculously easily used to defeat mid or lower tier enemies.
The weapons dropped from high tier enemies are easily used to defeat anything and they last super long too.

So you always work yourself up. There is also the detail of how you use like one mediocre weapon, defeat a group of enemies and receive like half a dozen weapons in return since every single enemy had a weapon of their own. While you just spent one, that most likely didn't even come close to breaking unless it was a shitty low tier wooden weapon or some rusted shit.

>our nation totally needs this
>What climate refugees endured was really bad
>It completely deserves
Jesus fucking Christ.
I agree with the Fair Chance guy, at least he doesn't talk like a 10 year old.

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Witcher 3 is more memorable, your mind is more evolutionary wired to remember human faces and interaction then remembering how fun something felt to play. For example, I remember next to nothing about WWaker, despite playing it at 17. Characters, moods, what you feel and why you felt it will stick with you for much, much longer. Witcher 3 does that better, even though BoTW is the better game over all.

Witcher 3 has the better story, characters and plot.

This might sound kind of condescending but I'll say it because I think it's true. I think if you honestly prefer something like Witcher 3, over Breath of the Wild, then you don't really understand game design, or have been so blunted by years of playing poorly constructed open world games that you can't appreciate good design when it's handed to you.

BotW is really a game for people who have that desire for exploration, for wanderlust. It gives you a massive world full of wonder and says: here, have at it. I've come to believe that if people don't really love this game, it's because they don't understand that exploration is meant to be its own reward, that this game isn't just about giving you an item as a reward. This game is about getting joy from the sheer act of going on an adventure and exploring.

The game's physics system rewards and encourages creative, unconventional play. Once again, I think if this is something you cannot really appreciate, then video games just might not be for you. I often see people say stuff like it's not necessary, but the whole point is that the game doesn't hold your hand, it expects you to experiment. Everything about this world comes together in such a complex, interactive, physical way, and this is what makes it the most immersive open world game of all time.

You can say you liked the cinematic, conventional experience of Witcher 3 more, but you should recognize that's just because of your tastes that have likely been shaped by years of being accustomed to open world games giving you quest markets, waypoints and arrows always showing you the way. BotW is not interested in just laying out breadcrumbs of content in the form of map icons, it's for people who have a thirst for exploration and emergent gameplay.

>widely considered to be one of the best games ever made and is still talked about as a reference point for what all RPGs should strive to be
Vs
>a very mediocre open world game with a Zelda skin that nobody talks about anymore
Gee, I wonder, OP.

Both of them?

Then you must not visit many places. I see headlines of it all the time, most recently about an update for it.

When Gerald said good bye to me, my chest tighten. BOTW doesn't "end", it just lets you canonically fuck about directionless after Ganon.

>When Gerald said good bye to me
Context? That sounds painfully sad....

thinking man can do anything to stop this is still fucking naive

>only books can tell stories

Well congrats you just killed most of the entertainment industry.

Replace BotW with fucking Spore and your 'argument' still holds up.
That's right. Spore. Remember that dumpster fire? And you think BotW will still be looked back on in 10 years as some kind of milestone? Lmao.

>People still get this fucking mad that people like BotW

Jesus christ

Don't even need to go back to Spore.
His argument could be used to defend No Man's Sky and it holds up about as well.

>The game's physics system rewards and encourages creative, unconventional play.

Yeah, many people agree, but will you remember that mountain you climbed, or that lake you swam ten years from now? No, because while it may be enjoyable, it's not memorable. Just like how people can enjoy an online game but only remember the biggest high lights. Ten years from now, you'll remember very little of BOTW, but you will remember that you enjoyed it very much and have a positive attitude to it.

This sounds gay as fuck but it is pretty accurate. After BotW other games feel like amateur hour.

People get even angrier about Skyrim.

Both most likely but BOTW more so. People still remember TW1/2 who played them just not as much as people who played Zelda.

It's the other way around, BotW fans get mad when someone dares dislike the game. They won't even believe you played it if you say you dislike it.

>gerald