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>Wider post game.
>a boss rush against past villains and a shittier Battle Factory.
(You)

>Ultra Sun and Moon
>Wider post game
>Awesome characters
I hope your joking, also it's story is absolute dogshit compared to Platinums

I hope you like HANDHOLDING AND CUTSCENES the video game

Platinum combined the Pokemon from diamond and pearl so you can catch all of them in one game. the legendaries are there two.

Ultra is still two separate games

it must be nice to be able to pump out yearly mediocrity and have a legion of dicksuckers defend every one of them to the death

The former fixed the most glaring issues of the games it was based on. The latter didn't.

USUM shittiness has more to do with how utterly awful SM feels to replay compared to just about any other generation.

Pokemon died when they decided copying all of the shittest parts of FF was a good move

>point out an opinion you disagree with
>instead of offering a counter argument just say sarcastically that it made you think
wow you really made me think

Gyms > trials
Ds graphics > 3ds graphics
And usum is easy
That's why

pokemon fatigue is real, making the games even more mindless because smartphones have literally retarded the youth doesn't help. also the 3D runs like absolute dogshit and makes something as simple as moving feel awkward

the only advantage of 3DS pokemon games is that the plots becoming more hardcore means that pokespe has to become even more hardcore as a response

Platinum wasn't released the year after Diamond and Pearl with. You can see USUM were already being done at the same time as the vanilla version for how little development time it got, while Platinum taking two to three years seems like a revision.

I didn't play USM because fuck going through all that dialog again, but I'm getting the gist that it didn't fix any of the problems that SM had (mostly dialog).

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pre-3ds """""""AI""""""""

>dialog, plot and character development is bad now
pokecucks never cease to amaze me

How dumb are you? He clearly said he doesn't want to replay the game because it's literally the same unskippable dialogue.

I take it this image is being ironic

>dialog is a legit complain by adhd autists now
Hit me up when you see any other jrpg with skippable dialog

>hur dur pokeyman is for children not a mature gamer like myself

except thats HGSS. those games are notorious for having a shit leveling curve.

>play interactive medium
>the medium takes away my ability to interact and makes me watch a movie every half hour
>I'm apparently supposed to be applauding

(You)

because usually, the updated version of a game was the 3rd version, not another 2 games

How hard is it to understand I don't want to read the same text and cutscenes two games in a row

>Platinum combined the Pokemon from diamond and pearl so you can catch all of them in one game.
Except it didn't, retard.

One doesn't have shitty cutscenes that trigger every 10 steps

>Can catch palkia and dialga in platinum
>Can't get solgalo in ultra moon

I didn't like Platinum, I dropped it after I catched Giratina in the Distortion World.
To me the game felt like they were adding gold paint to the pile of shit that were DP.
The main part of the post-game was in HGSS anyways

dppt and hgss are entirely the same rehashes of the Crystal formula that was already done to death with RSE
>stupid dialog is movie hur dur
probably you don't even like video games
pic related, a jrpg widely praised has a big focus on plot and characters
USUM having the same progression for most of the early game is a legit complaint, complaining for the existence of "Dialog" in SM and USUM isn't and is clear double standard against jrpgs

In USUM’s defense, i really like the concepts of minigames like mantine surf to make BP grinding less strenuous. But they need to either bring back VS seeker or the battle diner thing from XY.

pic related for my first point, about gen4 being another twist on the tired Crystal and RSE formula

I couldn't even be bothered to finish the first Sun. I got to about the third island and Lillie was charging at me prepared to tell me her backstory for the 20th time and I just turned off the game and never looked back.

>reposting your bait from /vp/
Fuck off

But it is for children. You gonna go about saying Madoka Magica is a “deconstruction” now?

>Story focuses on the legendary mascot and includes an entire new world
You're rather retard or didn't played the game at all.
Necrozma literally has 10 minutes screentime in the whole story and the Megalopolis is a fucking hallway with zero (0) interaction zones.

Except you can get a second Cosmog.

Not only Platinum is missing Pokemon, it's missing POKEMON THAT GOT THEIR EVOLUTION IN THAT GEN, THAT ITS BASE VERSION HAD. And version exclusives from the base games too.

The XY restaurants made you train multiple mons at once but the SM/USUM restaurant is faster.

Thunder Fang is physical, while Dark Pulse is Special, which Houndoom has a better stat in. Also, Dark Pulse has 80 base power, stab making it 120; Houndoom has a 110 sp. atk base stat. Thunder Fang has 65 base power, super-effective damage makes it 130, but Houndoom only has 90 base atk.
Dark Pulse is the correct move, no idea why it would use flamethrower unless it was swapped into it.

this is all true

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>unless it was swapped into it

Congratulations. You’ve found the trick to these cherrypicked screenshots

Literally my only complaint about USUM so far is that the early-mid game is functionally identical to the first ones. The only differences being; changed totem pokemon, ultra recon squad run-ins, and lack of cute Lillie scene on egg island (why?).

>i-it's a trick!

Because Lillie stays with you this time and is a recruitable partner for the battle tree. Unfortunately she uses a complete garbage fairy team with awful movesets, so she's not terribly useful.

just because there's references to Stalker or other adult movies, doesn't make it less of a children game.
Fuck I hate you manchildren always trying to lie

>Platinum is a shit game, and my stupid out-of-context image macros whose reliability cannot be trusted created specifically to serve a bias prove it!

Where the fuck in Gen 4 can you even fight a Nidorino and Nidorina double battle, anyways? And why would the screenshotter be using Gen 4 Pokemon in HGSS if he wasn’t deliberately strawmanning?

Just wait, next he’ll try using image macros to try proving that Spongebob is for adults.

>Story focuses on the legendary mascot and includes an entire new world (Ultra Megalópolis)
Neppy can suck my balls. What a shitass legendary.

>Harder game tan it's previous games
Still baby mode, just like every pokemon game

>Wider post game
Still shit

>Awesome soundtrack and characters
There isn't a single good character in this game. And no, wanting to fuck Lusamine or Lillie being cute doesn't make them good characters.

>3DS graphics
That look like shit

>A ton of Pokemon and legendaries to catch and has added new ones
That look like shit.

you didn't play the games, or you did but mashed A through the "dialog"
BW/2 legitimately have one of the best plot, passing meaningful messages and raising questions, that I've seen in video games and deserve being a point for the "video games can be art" case

>More is better fallacy

And this is why I’m confident in my love of BW1.

They are on par, stop with the nostalgiashit

It's almost like these were originally hyped up to be more than just a 3rd version serebii.net/news/2017/17-October-2017.shtml
Also there's no reason why any of this couldn't be DLC in 2017 vs 2008

did they actually take the entire battle using helping hands? the player's pokemon never lost health

>“video games can be art" case
Oh my fucking god, you’re just baiting for (You)s.
I’m leaving this thread.

Figures huh. Might still use her for the cuteness though, lilliemoon4lyfe.

That’s what the poster wants you to think. Stop giving him (You)s, he’s blatantly trolling.

They are both shit.

We're talking about Pokemon, not FFXV

>Hated
But it isn't, at least in most places. Both of the games are highly regarded and have high points for the people that liked their originals, who are the ones they cater to.
Platinum fixes the mechanical issues of DP, allowing it to really shine as a region and overall generation.
USUM adds stuff like Surfing and wormhole runners plus makes the game considerably more difficult bosswise

>waifufags
>yurifags
I'm doubly disgusted right now. You're probably not even a little girl

thanks for the () underage

>don't even like pokemon
>enjoy games that have pokemon mechanics built in

Worlf of Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts DDD are amazing games and I thoroughly enjoyed them but I can't enjoy pokemon. Last pokemon game i enjoyed was Crystal.

This is a bait thread. Lurk more.

The right side has Lillie. That alone makes it worthy of being hated.

>398436072
That was a finger slip on my phone.

Your next line will be: “KILL YOURSELF PHONEPOSTER”

Yeah I recommend the new normal mode in the tree, you can carry her with overleveled pseudos there if you want since it's a free mode letting you use mythicals, legends, and overleveled stuff (level scaling turned off for that mode only).

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>harder than its previous games
youtube.com/watch?v=Xrne2-gOoqU
s/m were already piss easy i dont see how this could be any difficult

ok

Not him but sun and moon is my second pokemon game and it's fucking garbage

>now
They were always bad. Pokemon is supposed to be about catching them all and becoming the champion. Any plot should only be there to support those goals.

>has never experienced the horror of the lurantis-comfey anal ravaging tag team

lucky you

mad

Totem battles are improved and it has the most powerful uncatchable boss Pokemon in the series (754 BST with a 1.5x autoboost to all stats).

I caught everything in Moon and I only do the Battle Tree for fun, is UM worth it?

I’m not a shitposter, but I genuinely don’t like how waifubait Lillie and all her scenes are made to be. If she was a rival and had actual impact on the narrative instead of being a mouthpiece for the player, I would’ve cared more about her.

Fuck now I have to replay Platinum, love that game.

ok

What was your USUM team or SM team if you didn't play USUM Sup Forums
Mine were
>Incineroar
>vikavolt
>dusk lycanroc
>wishiwashi
>kommo-o
>base necrozma

mad

No they are the most similar games to their previous counterparts. They really don't fix any old problems

Not him but the intention of Lillie is to make a story about a non-trainer character.
Title wise, Gladion is considered by the game to be the player's rival, and Hau is the player's "Friend" (like Bianca or the XY group).

Has anybody done a comparison of the size of the maps in each gen with each other?

>I’m not a shitposter, but I genuinely don’t like how waifubait Lillie
They toned it down in USUM, I hear they even cut off the exeggutor island scene.

Battle Tree is slightly improved so eh, pirate it if you're hesitant on a buy.

Each to their own I guess. I haven't enjoyed a side character in a pokemon game since Barry in Diamond. Plus without her we'd have no nebby memes.

monster hunter stories is a fairly new jrpg and it has skippable dialogue and cut scenes.
also what do you mean by "crystal formula?" do you mean releasing the same game but with small changes?

>Platinum had a mini Battle Frontier
>USUM had LE MEME TOWER

plant better bait user

How is MHS anyway? I skipped it because of the apparent low monster variety and I dislike how many dragon/dragon-like beasts take up the roster, but I hear it was rather good?

2 remakes of the slowest gens

But the story is so utterly clumsy and rushed in its execution that it just feels like a parody of BW1’s narrative. All Lillie does in the game is babysit Cosmog until it gets stolen, and then have shipper bait moments with the protagonist. The only thing that ties her to the story is being Gladion’s sister and Ragyo’s daughter.

Platinum also has le meme tower you dumb fuck

Those died faster than Hau's hopes and dreams

>implying Hau has hopes, dreams or even emotions or personality

Sometimes you don't feel like wading through rivers of dialogue you don't want to read because you want to just play a game already.

>USUM
>Wider post-game

It literally just has RR which is almost just a parallel move from the Looker quest from the first game.

and several other facilities too. don't detract the point that was from 6th gen onwards battle oriented post game content was fucking gutted for no explained reason.

Didn’t those rivers only get obnoxious in X/Y?

>USUM doesn't have two other facilities because i don't want to count them
Ok.

I'm not intentionally ignoring them they just suck because of internal reasons. Spy Mode sounds like the battle factory on paper then you realize that progress is entirely dependant on your fucking friends list.

Would it kill them to give the games a good story?

For fuck's sake, Explorers of Tine and Darkness had a great story, but it is stillsubpar in the main series