I am interested in playing Valkyrie Profile, Sup Forums. Have you played it, and what are your thoughts? Any beginner tips/things to know?
My only knowledge of the series really comes from playing Covenant of the Plume years ago on a SRPG fix, and the less said about that lame game, the better. I assume the real series is far superior.
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>Have you played it, and what are your thoughts?
It's great, one of my favorite JRPGs. There's a good amount of missable content in the game. If that bothers you, it might not be for you. Also, getting the "true end" is borderline impossible without a guide or several playthroughs.
I've read that getting the best ending requires playing the game on hard.
I might play through first on normal and see how I can adapt to a harder difficulty and find things I missed. Is it a long game?
Pretty standard JRPG length from what I remember. 30-40 hours.
Hard isn't actually harder, there is absolutely no reason to play the game on any other difficulty.
It's pretty good. One of the more unique JRPGs of that era.
I thought Lenneth was superior in every way, but I haven't played it. Might be worth setting PPSSPP up for though.
Don't play the psp remake.
Why not?
It changes stuff and doesn't even look better or play better. They also replace cutscenes with shitty early 2000s cgi fmvs. Google the changes if you want. I'd recommend emulating the original
Not that guy but from what I remember hearing they replaced a lot of the dialogue with badly done anime cutscenes that only cover a fraction of what they originally talked about or something? Not sure if any of the gameplay/quality of life updates, if it even had all that much, are worth that
is it just a buff of enemy health then?
No, it just changes what dungeons are available. You literally just miss out on content by picking lower difficulties.
Nope, Normal Mode just doesn't let you enter some of the more difficult dungeons and skips the story related to them.
There is zero point in playing on it.
true. enemies on hard mode are barely stronger than on normal, and you actually level up much faster on hard because of all the extra dungeons, which you'll want to visit to get all the orbs necessary to unlock the entire post game dungeon - meaning you'll only explore it properly if you play it on hard anyway, making normal a fucking waste of time.
fun fact, easy is the hardest mode, as you'll have less dungeons - meaning less exp for leveling up - and the strongest weapons are locked out of easy mode, so you'll get to endgame with a weaker party wearing shit equipment.
...how nostalgic.
NIBELUNG VALESTI
The DS game was great you fucking idiot
excellent game.
itll make you wish cutscene skipping was a thinf back then. also there are a lot of dungeons that make you JUST yourself, particularly the hard exclusives
Cutest girl is actually a trap so watch out
>Not that guy but from what I remember hearing they replaced a lot of the dialogue with badly done anime cutscenes that only cover a fraction of what they originally talked about or something?
Wait, I thought they just added new voice tracks and kept the original dub but added FMV cutscenes
enemies are no stronger but theres an exp penalty.
but the random nature of oblivion caverns means you can just transmute great wands into alchemy tomes and turn them into insane exp
Don't play the ds one. It's garbage.
Get a guide. It's basically the equivalent of having a Strategy Guide which you absolutely need for the best ending.
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JUST myself?
DIVINE ASSAULT
So there's no shame in using a guide for this game? I usually try to avoid doing that.
NIBELUNG VALESTI!
Freyja was such a bitch.
What if you don't care about the best ending, do you miss out on a lot of content?
This game and like 10 other PS1 JRPGs are on my backlog, really wish I played them as a kid.
You aren't going to get the true ending, which has a decent amount of extra content in it, without knowing what to do.
I'd maybe just try and check the requirements for it and leave it at that, they are awfully obscure but not too hard to fulfill if you know what they are from what I remember.
Following a walkthrough every step of the way would probably ruin a couple parts and kill some of the surprises
It's the kind of shit where dungeons and characters are locked unless you play on higher difficulty. Getting a best ending on your own is basically impossible because it's a game from that awkward period where devs were pushing guides for extra money.
I think I'll do that. Thanks.
There's a whole lot of stuff that isn't explained too good, and loads of items/artifacts that you won't know what they do until you have them, which can only be obtainable by taking them instead of sending them back to Odin. It is entirely possible to keep every artifact and still get the best ending but you need to know exactly what Odin wants you to send to Valhalla to make up for the point loss of keeping the shit.. A guide will certainly help BUT the game mixes up what einherjar will be available within a chapter, with all of them being recruit-able eventually.
why is there no steam version of this yet?
Is it true that hard mode is actually easier than the lower difficulties?
Nevermind I read the thread and got my answer.
I want a remaster, odin sphere style or a new 2d episode, i freaking love the combat
You miss out on a shitton of good einherjar and items on easy, as well as dungeons so you have less EXP spread around your team overall. You miss out on 8 recruitables on easy, and 1 on normal.
>What if you don't care about the best ending, do you miss out on a lot of content?
you end up in an entirely different final boss dungeon if you don't take the very unintuitive steps to steer your fate to the real ending. normal game ending is you invading the ice giant's plane and killing their king; REAL ending is having Loki making his move to betray Odin, and you battle his forces in a shittier map that's supposed to be Asgard on your way to slay Loki. The normal ending dungeon is better, but the true ending boss fight is better, so you kind of want to do both.
I wish to get proper translation of the mobile game
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Isn't the postgame dungeon exclusive to Ending A as well?
I'd say the game is good enough to play once blind and then use a guide
You can also abuse one of the hard mode features a bit. Namely that all the new eiherjars on HM come as lvl1 (the have fixed lvls on normal and easy) so you can equip the gems that add hp and/or skill points per lvlup and feed them exp from orb, gaining a lot of hp and skillpoints in the process. But that's up to you.
>VP3: Hrist never
Nah fuck gacha games, i want an actual full game not a valkyrie profile themed casino in the pocket
I think it's exclusive to the true ending, but not sure. You want to do both though, my first and only playthrough was with the guide, and I had a buddy play it at my house and didn't give him the guide so I could see him do the other path(because the game forks at like, act 4 of 8 regarding when you start fucking with your loyallty to Odin, then doing extra actions avaialable to your shit loyalty in act 6 of 8. It was too much work IMO to backtrack. Anyways, I thought his playthrough of the ice castle was pretty cool, even if the ending and boss fight was anti-climactic, on the other hand the true ending looks like shit and has no aesthetic or gameplay value other than being a final area to grind if you're not strong enough for Loki.
What's the general consensus on VP2? I know the structure is more like a normal JPRG, which is kind of a turn off for me because I really liked scanning the world for dying people and dungeons. Are the einherjar recruitments handled the same?
Most people didn't like it.
>Are the einherjar recruitments handled the same?
No. Einherjar no longer have any cutscenes or personalities. They're just generic warriors.
its fucking gay, its not even on the PSN store, where I usually buy PSP games to play on my vita.
I don't own a PSP or else I'd buy the physical copy.
you miss an insane amount of story involving lenneth, this game is awful to replay so just do ending A
ill make it easy.
do not wear the ring
send one einheirjar per chapter only
go to weeping lily meadow in chapter 3 or 4
meet brahms in his castle in chapter 3 or 4
meet lucian in the desert town before disc 2
finish lezards tower in disk 1(final dungeon)
recruit lucian and mystina in disk 2
send lucian away in chapter 5/6
youll have ending a unless you royally fuck up.
That's a damn shame. The einherjar recruitment scenes were the strongest bits of the game for me. The part when Lezard baits you to his tower with Lorenta's death blew me away.
TO MY SIDE MY NOBLE EINHERJAR
Also the unique items rewarded on Hard make the game easier, ironically.
You can play PSP games on PS3 if you're into that kind of thing.
Easy and hard have unique dungeons. Normal doesn't. I recommend playing on easy and getting ending B, then replaying on hard and getting ending A.
A bit off-topic but what did you guys think of this game?
also lawfer is the absolute strongest character in the game by a huge margin.
he only stops beig an overpowered piece of shit post-endgame cause seraphic spears only have 3k attack vs dainsleif and other exclusives have 12k attack.
lawfer can literally overkill the last bosses by himself
It's top tier. You'll never get the good ending without a guide. Hard mode is the only way to play the game.
Hard mode makes your new characters start at lvl1, instead of a fixed level (or your level on easy). So you'll have to grind more. Also it has new, harder dungeons.
Use a guide. There is no point to play without it.
Always use bows as Lenneth. Her sword combos are bad.
Mages that you get on 1st half of the game suck ass.
Just nostalgia fags and mah anime cutscenes, its not bad as how some people make it out to be. The differences very minor.
>Mages that you get on 1st half of the game suck ass.
I kept or called back a few just to get the elemental ultimate spells and resulting voice clip collections in that weird bonus menu. It's a lot of work getting to the point where you can use those, the animations are awfully grainy but they're kind of neat I guess.
Wow, thanks for so many great responses. Maybe I'll try for the "best end" first, with a spoiler-free req-list (hope there is one), and maybe an easy playthrough at some point to get the "bad" end.
There is a fun bad end when you ignore the tasks that Freya gives you and just skip time.
Don't go anywhere, just skip time and wait for punishment.
Thoughts?
One of my favorite games op, both are really good. 2 has better gameplay in my opinion but I like 1 more overall. Play on hard mode cause it's easier to get the good ending that way, since you'll get the better characters.
>tfw can't emulate VP1 without visual and audio glitches on PS1 or PSP
is this game Tri-Ace's last truly great game?
Nah. SO3, VP2, and Beyond the Labyrinth were all great too. I do think they peaked with VP but SO2 and a few of their later games aren't terribly far behind.
Aren't the Baten Kaitos games also made by Tri-Ace? I do remember something about it but most important I loved both games, specially origins since the gameplay is still pretty good today.
Radiata Stories is my favorite game of theirs even if combat was ass.
Yes you can
Pretty sure those are Monolith Soft.
I wish Lenneth was on vita or ps4
Should I start with the US PS1 version or Lenneth on PSP? I hear Lenneth has gameplay "improvements"
I'll always say that PS1 and 2 era RPGs were the best ever made. Some modern RPGs are good but back then there were so many amazing titles made with shit ass budgets and still manage to be complex and fun at the same time.
I also loved both BKs gameplay considering I was hesistant of the "card" structure first.
Potential.
go with Lenneth if you can play it, i forget exactly what it added from the ps1 game but it was just as good and had cool new CG cutscenes
i like what i saw,
shame the background isn't hand drawn as well
I wish it was on Switch.
>all this love for VP on Sup Forums
You guys are fucking alright sometimes.
US PS1 version is the best imo
Lenneth has the following issues:
-Game looks blurry at times, due to widescreen
-Cannot sort items
-Cannot switch characters in the menus using L/R
-Cannot change equipment of inactive party members
-Lenneth's skills are removed when changing equipment
-PWSs are glitchy
-cutscenes are jarring and don't really add much to the experience
FINISHING STRIKE!
ICICLE DISASTER!
FINISHING STRIKE!
NIBELUNG MOLEST ME!
Honestly the extra exp and items you get from the extra dungeons actually make hard the easiest difficulty, even though enemies are a bit stronger. Conversely easy is the hardest one because you're essentially just gimping your characters.
>tfw no VP or VP2 on psn for ps3/ps4
Who? The princess?
>people actually recommending the PSP version
Oh my fucking god
>entering the first dungeon and this song starts playing
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Fuck now I want to replay this game
Which PS1 emulator is the best?
>post yfw you realize a lot of the english voice actors are the same as the one's from the original pokemon anime dub.
Unpopular opinion, but pSX is the best when it comes to minimum hassle maximum usability, even though it's compatibility list isn't the best.
for valkyrie profile, you'll want to use mednafen. It's a bit of pain in the ass to set up but once you do you'll never use anything else.
yeah just rain fire in my face
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Frei
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mednafen is the most accurate emulator
Best game is Lenneth. Second is waifu bait and kicking Odin ass.
Second game is better.
I GROW TIRED OF YOU
its great. replayability is bad though because you cant skip cutscenes. id suggest you play silmeria too
The best game in the series is Covenant of the Plume simply because it's a SRPG, not a shitty shallow button masher like the original game.
>waifu bait
i honestly think silmeria looks like shit and hrist is waifu tier