How would you salvage the Sonic the Hedgehog franchise?

How would you salvage the Sonic the Hedgehog franchise?

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I wouldn't.

Sonic was unsalvageable from day one

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replace sonic team with the guys who did sonic mania

Branch out and dedicate real development to other genres, clearly Sonic Team really can't into standard Sonic games.

Some of the best Sonic games were spinoffs.

Sonic Team has undoubtedly scrapped the bottom of the barrel in the last few years, from Sonic: Lost World, to subsiding the hedgehog to even more atrocious developers with Sonic Boom, and finally the gigantic let down that is Sonic: Forces.

Is it finally time to give this series a rest now? When are they gonna start treating the hedgehog like their golden boy, instead of fucking garbage. It's sad when a bunch of outsiders can make a better Sonic game than the Japanese creators.

Ditch 3D and just make 2D games

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>sabatoge
give sonic team even more control of the franchise
>how to fix
give sonic to the mania devs. produce mainly 2d games. 3d can work, but it's clear as day that sonic team has no idea what the fuck they are doing considering that they keep changing the playstyle of the series every 3 fucking games.

ignore the first half, misread salvage as sabotage.

Point and Click adventure game of Sonic trolling the shit out of people.

Give mania team more people and make sure to not rush them

Fire the faggot running the sonic twitter. We don't need more meme bullshittery ruining the franchise than it already is. Could also do with out him begging for Arin's grumppies.
>new sonic game coming out? better give a collectors edition of it to one of the people responsible for the reputation the series has now

Hire the guy who made this and let him go to town.

This. Give them full control, because at this point, the franchise is doomed.

Total relocation to the west.

Disband Sonic Team and put Taxman in charge of handpicking a crew for Sonic Mania 2, 3 and 4.

Bring back the Archie comic and Satam while letting the writers of Sonic Boom make television ads.

And finally, sue the fucking shit out of Penders for ripping off Knuckles in his lara su garbo.

>And finally, sue the fucking shit out of Penders for ripping off Knuckles in his lara su garbo.

he honestly deserves worse tbqh

Do a fucking secuel.. GODAMN IT

Can't think of a worse fate than Being Penders tbqh

Let Sonic Team finish their fucking games before shoving them out the door. Sega mismanages shit so badly with Sonic, nearly every bad game comes down to the game being blatantly unfinished and it happens pretty much every fucking time.

Scrap the Boost system.
Go back to responsive controls.

T. Arin

>Is it finally time to give this series a rest now?
it's not about the series needing a rest, it's about Sonic Team being completely fucking incompetent

Mania is proof that Sonic Team needs to be shut down and Sega needs to start licensing the IP out to different devs/fans
I mean look at Sonic Utopia
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is it perfect? no, but it's a million times fucking better than Sonic Teams attempt at 3D, which boils down to nothing more than running along a straight track while holding a boost button

Sonic is not the problem
Sonic Team are the problem

/thread/

lowest sonic forces score is 56 on switch
>BUH BUHT MY BONUS NINTENDO POINTS!!!

Honestly, think about what Sonic's big diffentiating factor with Mario is: his speed. What kind of game can you make that you can't make with Mario? A game with large open worlds, because Sonic can quickly travel across large spans of land. Whoever made that demo seems to have the right idea for how to do Sonic in 3D.

Hell they could outright label it as an open-world Sonic game and I think people would go nuts over it. As long as the environments all feel unique and there's lots of hopping and bopping while traversing from point A to point B I think people would love it. The problem is that Sonic Team is pretty much the last studio on earth I'd trust to make a game like that.

t. soyboys

how long do you think they can milk the 2d nostalgia for?

call of duty does the same thing every year and it's still good right?

>Hell they could outright label it as an open-world Sonic game and I think people would go nuts over it.
they tried that already with Sonic 06; it's just that they did it so badly, you would never know that's what they were going for

also can anyone verify that in Japan's canon, Sonic has always taken place on earth? someone told me this, and whilst that explains why humans suddenly appear in Sonic Adventure, it doesn't explain at all what the fuck is going on in Sonic 1-3 with these incredibly weird locations which are supposed to be on earth
it's probably bias on my part from growing up with it, but to me it makes so much sense being Mobius and excising every human out of the story except Robotnik
I'm willing to accept Robotnik travelled to Sonic's planet to conquer it, I'm not willing to accept that sonic 1-3 take place on human earth

Sonic, Tails, Knuckles. Nobody else. Let furfags cry about their autistic trash characters that have never been in a single good game

Never make a 3D/pseudo 3D game ever again

super monkey ball at 3x speed

>complains about furfags
>wants pussy tails and nigger knuckles

Official porn game.

Freedom will be waiting when the Sonic series dies.

Just keep it 2D. No more 3D shit.

Chao garden

Honestly Sonic Forces is better than MN9. SF deserves a 50-60 score, but MN9 is at maximum a 30-40

To be honest if it came back, there's no way i would have the motivation to do all that shit again.

fucking THIS, cripple Sonic was a mistake

not him but I can get it
sonic 1-3's character designs are cute, they are creatures

everything past that has an obsession with making things "badass" or "sexy" or just completely overdesigned to make them "cool"
you can see this in the number of articles of clothing a character has: the more they have, the harder they are trying to push an image of the character

sonic, knuckles, and tails had shoes and gloves and that was it; as soon as shit like skirts, jackets, headphones, jewellery, etc, get added it starts fucking things up and making furry fetish fuel

Tails is a fox
blatant unabashed furbait

I don't think I've ever played a good sonic game, and I grew up with a genesis and dreamcast.

it's a nice concept but it's never felt "right"

I agree, Mario was superior

The best thing about Sonic Mania were all the new Zones, though.

If they were given enough time and budget, they could definitely pull of the best 2D Sonic game ever.

Mania did good.

Maybe give what the fans want?

>sees video
That looks pretty cool.

Split it right down the middle, east vs west. lizuka has decided that the classic and modern games are different continuities/dimensions, capitalize on this. Let the Japs continue making subpar 3D games in the modernverse, let western studios make both 2D and 3D games set in the classicverse. Make a Tails Adventure sequel that isn't tiny and restricted because it's on a handheld. Make a Knuckles game that isn't just normal Sonic gameplay except shittier, like Chaotix was.

Fill copies of 3d Sonic games with deadly gas.

Mania was average. Even sonic 4 is better.

>people with taste this shit share Sup Forums with you

yes people have opinions. mania was just the same exact shit that people played in the 90s. just play all those million romhacks instead. same thing.

>we will never get a knuckles brawler with classic sonic style platforming/speed and treasure hunt special stages
closest we got was unleashed with the meme werehog at 15 fps

By creating a game like Sonic Mania where your victory ends in a threesome with Rouge and Vanilla.

If you can't or won't respect polish and appreciation for a genre then how could you possibly expect anyone to take your own opinion seriously?

Mania/Classic games can only carry Sonic for about 2 more games before hitting stale territory.

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There's no salvaging. Japanese don't fire people for some goddamn reason, so these incompetent fucks will be in charge of the franchise until they die.

Fuck sega you better make Vc4 good.

Also i don't think it can be. He needs to die man.

So just Sonic & Knuckles then?

just Sonic and Robotnik

make that fun 3d sonic game i played as a kid in a mall where you slide down streets with your snowboard again but with some new mechanics

it's like forces was so bad it completely erased everyone's memory of mania

Could an open-world Sonic be good? Or has that been done before and I'm forgetting it? I feel like it's already been done.
But could open-world actually be good for Sonic? I remember running around town in Saint's Row 4 with superspeed being non-boring, with other Sonic-y features it could actually be fun.

Taking it away from SEGA.
Their corporate meddling and mismanagement has directly resulted in two games that could be in the running for worst high profile game of that generation, for two generations in a row.
They'll never learn.

Did you even play mania? The best parts were the brand new stages

Sonic Utopia is trying that, I think

Fuck no.
2d Sonic is the only good Sonic

I can't honestly believe the sheer amount of people that unironically defends Forces.
>Because it's fun
They say. Holy fuck. Some people find fun putting a nail inside their dicks, it doesn't mean it's not a shitty thing to do. And Forces remains a terribly shitty game, no matter how much fun you have with it.
It's not even a matter of opinions, it's mere facts.
You just need to look at the videos of the game and compare it to, like, every other fucking game in the world, even in the sonic series itself, to see how bad it is.
And then, you finally play it and no way in hell you can say it is a good game with a straight face.
And trust me, we will keep getting shitty Sonic games as long as people like that keep defending turds like Forces. I'm fucking mad.

Open-world could be good, but I don't know if it has been done.
They are going to make linear levels

Completely disregard and ignore nostalgiafags. Go back to the Sonic Advance format.

sonic advance is old enough at this point to ridicule its fans for being nostalgic too

Make Chris-chan the president of Sonic Team.

>sonic advance is old enough at this point to ridicule its fans for being nostalgic too
People barely talk about Sonic Advance or even Sonic Rush and those are some of the best post-Genesis Sonic games.

Forces sucks. Infinite is the only remotely enjoyable thing about it, and that's just because he's the edgiest fucking thing Sonic's ever produced, and it's hilarious. Too bad they retroactively ruined him by making him some faggy rando jackal OC who's butthurt about being a weak bitch boi and not your OC from a parallel universe where they became evil.

Everything else isn't even so bad it's good. It's just painfully mediocre.

>Give mania team full control to make another 2d game and make that the main series.
>Hire fan Devs like Sonic utiopia guy to make more expiremental and interesting 3d sonic games
>Hire Telltale and Send current sonic team to work with them because they clearly think they can tell a story and thats what sonic games are about if the last games have been an indication
>Rent out the license to other studios to make something original with the sonic IP like nintendo with some of the zeldas because it cant get any worse

I think the beta uprising backstory makes it even funnier.
Fucking japs man, they always do this retarded serious shit

Transfer the rights to Christian Whitehead and Stealth.

>2.5D
Hideous and will always be hideous

literally nobody got a load of this?!
if this was sonic 4 i'd be happy!

An Eggman game would be a nice start.

as opposed to all western media, which is never undeservedly self-serious

Then we should have played as that loser for the prologue level instead of Shadow.

I hate to make it an east vs west thing but yes, they absolutely need to have westerners take over this franchise. I don't know what Sonic Team's deal is, even notoriously tone deaf companies like Capcom hold a closer correspondence with western fans.

They're just eternally butthurt that SoA outskilled them with marketing the Genesis/Sonic

Literally eliminate all the side characters after knuckles and go from there.

Nice bait though.

why would killing all the side characters fix the franchise when half the stuff people complain about is shit like controls, physics, and level design

>tfw Sonic is still better off than pic related
Inb4 >85 >bad
Nintendo bonus means the game is really a 54 at best.

Killing characters off will fix gameplay?

Talk about overdesigned. This is why fan projects will always be shit.

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bring back the FUNK

it's literally the same as the original sonic 3 & knuckles, user. what the absolute fuck are you talking about?

Looks like shit dude

Blunderbro was right. Fuck this trash game. Selling my switch and all the shitty wastes of money games I got on it.

It's really simple.

Bump

Even Sonic fan games get shit on for no reason

Get rid of Sonic Team and have a reputable dev work on it. They are the problem, not the franchise.

It could work in right hands, an urban setting could benefit from it