Which game has impeccable writing? As a frequest reader of novels, I cannot accept lazy piece and creations

Which game has impeccable writing? As a frequest reader of novels, I cannot accept lazy piece and creations.

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>naoko
>reiko
this is some weebshit LN isn't it
I know none of you fucks read real japanese literature

Your best bet is to go back to old crpg's like Bauldur's Gate, Torment, or Pillars of Eternity

>Norwegian Wood
>weebshit
No. Although I like the way you think
Read the book btw
Sure I will do

Looks like bunch of words diareha, you want shit writing, look at gw2, it legit makes one angry

>>Norwegian Wood
You know, I had a feeling that if it wasn't an LN, then it's Norwegian Wood because I know none of you fucks would read anything other than the most popular and mainstream of Japanese literature, on the rare occasion you happen to break out of your LNs.

I'll read it sometime soon.

>Murahacki
No thanks, if I wanted Japanese literature I'd read Kawabata or Soseki, not that Kafka wannabe.

/lit/ here, there is not a single well-written game. You should not come to one medium expecting the merits of another. Enjoy the gameplay elements while remaining critical of the poor writing.

Dance Dance Dance is pure kino.

No.
Also books can't be kino.

>books can't be kino

>Muh spooks!

>games
>writing
fuck off college boy
games are for brainlet males such as my self that only play shooty games.
dirty fucking cuck boy
bet you have a nerdy girlfriend with cute glasses and you get coffee at your favorite cafe every morning, huh ?

>books can be art born from movement
Do you even know what kino means

Oh god this is cringe.
That's the kind of sentences I avoid at all costs when I write my novels, I think that style, that way to use metaphors, was abused as fuck in the last years and I find it "dry", sterile.
>inb4 you write horribly
Yeah I'm not english.

Norwegian Wood is where the pianist teacher had a same sex intercourse with a 13 year old but it was the 13 year old girl who wanted it and started it. The teacher couldn’t do anything because she didn’t know what to do. She knew it was wrong. It gave me boner

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Super Mario Bros 2 had a very well done plot twist.

Also I'd rec Moon RPG Remix Adventure

Since this is a translation of a Japanese novel, can it even be said that this style of writing is equatable to the original author's style? Or perhaps it is more of the translator's style.

Is that Norwegian Wood?

Murakami has more to do with western literary tradition than eastern. He writes his books doing bilingual exercises.

i know what u mean op

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Is this passage considered bad? It guided me into visualization and feeling of what it was talking about so if anything it works. What other criteria should i evaluate it with?

Regarding games a lot of them work but in what form exactly do you want writing from them? to the moon and the longest journey work but it's not like have genius writing.

>Undead Zombie Dragon is attacking SLOWLY
>Have to get a bunch of stupid assholes known as Destiny's Child back together to beat the dragon
>Finally do
>Actually just defeat the dragon using normal standard issue cannons

As a frequest reader of novels, I also have issues with lack of spellcheck.

I have two Murakami's novels, Norwegian Wood and something else I borrowed to a friend that I can't remember the name of, but I never bothered to read them (actually I did read around ten pages of Norwegian Wood, but I'm bad with Japanese names and I got lost), are they any good? Seems like he's just another "Goodreads Choice Awards" writer, and pic related doesn't really help, but that might just be a bad translation.
Also, I haven't read anything from the Japanese, and I wanted check out some poetry and Mishima, so I don't know if I should bother with Murakami.

Send us a page. Anything. I’m curious

This picture would have been perfect with a nigger hand.

I read that short story, Super Frog saves Tokyo, because it was name dropped in Penguindrum. And I guess vaguely referenced in plot.

Check out Kawabata, Oe, Soseki, Mishima, Tanizaki and Akutagawa and drop Murakami, he's a westaboo.

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>literally two paragraphs explaining how a girl is sitting on a bed looking out a window

Even if this is supposed to be a romantic moment, that is highly unacceptable more than 30% of the way into a book. Naoko must have been described in detail earlier, making a large portion of this is information that surely must have been conveyed first, and another chunk is pure pointless information like the exact time of the night.

Fucking this, nothing wrong with metaphors but you have to balance it with actual information and they should be scarce or brief if present. "Heart pounding like a jackhammer" is fine to toss in wherever, "His heart pounded like a roaring jackhammer, ribs all but cracking like cement under the relentless beats of the organ." is needless 9/10 times.

I liked the sex stuff in that book

Don't bother with Murakami. Soseki, Mishima, and Oe are the ones you want for contemporary jap lit. If you want to check out Mishima, start out with Confessions of a Mask and Temple of the Golden Pavilion.

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Yes it gave me boner too because the adult woman wanted it so hard but she know it wrong.

>the sound was huge

Infuriating, writers who do this are so goddamn irksome. HUGE is a measurement of distance, you cannot have a huge sound you cunt. "The sound was deafening", "The sound shattered the silence", "The sound was loud", fucking anything, why would you write 'huge'?

>Confessions of a Mask
The best fag shit ever put on paper.

>your book/novel/web series will never be popular or make money, but things like this readily exist and are sold to thousands of people

I enjoyed reading Hard-boiled Wonderland. I can see why the elitists of this site would hate his works though; he's pretty much the most popular contemporary Japanese author and is probably a common talking point in coffee shops. Like Sup Forums, or most boards here for that matter, the general consensus on /lit/ is that the moment any work garners mass appeal, it's puerile garbage.

>things like this
yeah, you mean literary gold right?

Or maybe because there Murakami is a huge westaboo and not indicative of Japanese literary tradition, he has more in common with Vonnegut and Kafka than Soseki or Kawabata. But no, it's because he's popular, of course.

which game has writing as autistic as mishima when he describes things

It's a good thing I caught up on Kuzu to Megane to Bunkajoshoujo the other day and all these books were talked about in the story so I know them despite not reading any.

Ah, thanks, I'll definitely check them out.
Just don't know why I didn't start with them earlier, I really love Ozu and Mizoguchi and Kurosawa (him especially) and Japan (no weebshit, though).

So, basically Japanese The Piano Teacher?

>/lit/
>actually knowing what good writing is

Who cares if he's a westaboo. Just because he's Japanese doesn't mean he has to adhere to whatever writing styles are commonplace over there. And yes, if he was some young, up-and-coming writer and not as well known as he is today, I'm sure his works would be well received here.

c/lit/ is 90% fat lesbians who hate anything written by a white man
their "to read" threads are nothing but menstrual blood cook books and korean "how to have sex with dogs before you eat them" manuals

The Witcher series.

I wrote an essay on this theme, my friend... You have no idea who you're messing with.
This

>who cares if he's a westaboo
Anyone wanting authentic jap lit.

haruki murakami is a faggot
RYU Murakami is the best

Gotta love crossposting

Maybe so, but I'm still trying my hardest. I just hope someone appreciates my work.

>tfw you realize poetry is the endgame of literature

Also read your classics

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What would you consider "impeccable writing"? Because that seems like some overly flowery bullshit which doesn't work well enough at being surreal, seductive, or impressive. It looks like someone who read good writing once and tried to mimic it themselves.

If that is the quality of writing you want, then I'm sure that a lot of these recent Steam VNs would be up your alley.

A bit more seriously, it is a difficult thing to compare because (to use the tired old excuse) video games are relatively too new. Writing has had ages to develop, and we can see how we can use the written word to get specific tones or provide distinct views through it. Movies have had a lot of time to get cinematography right as well, even if most modern ones seem to forget that. There hasn't been much "videogametography" done, and most of that which does work (in the context of mood or atmosphere) is hard to get a good handle on, and even harder to analyze at this point in time. I mean, would you say that Limbo has good "writing" or whatever, even though there was nothing written in the game?

I like the stanely parable

Cool ideas on the creation of story and satisfaction of the player by what they 'choose' and dont 'choose'

Also mgsv to a limited extent because of the idea of language in warfare. thats pretty fucking neat idea and some good concepts were explored before it went 100% retarded parasites.

I should finish reading this one and Lolita.

How's 1Q84?

>stanely parable
I loved it too, but you can't mention it here because everyone will start yelling "reddit".

Stanley Parable is unironically one of the best examples of someone using the medium effectively. Whether you like it or not, you would have to accept that the story and theme the game is exploring would be impossible to effectively recreate in any other form, be it book or movie or anything. It only works in a game, and it works well as a game, making it a damn fine example of both writing and understanding of games as a whole.

This. Finally someone gets it.

>you would have to accept that the story and theme the game is exploring would be impossible to effectively recreate in any other form
Choose your own adventure books can do it took. Books win again baby!

1Q84 is a series. Make sure to get the paperback edition. It’s a 3 part book (you might intimidated but they’re overly long books to read). Many people say it’s Murakami’s best work overall, but norwegian wood is his most popular

I don't know what that is, but it's not particularly good.
To be fair, it looks better than most/all videogames.
No good writer would write for a videogame, I mean why would they? 1. Someone else is likely conceptualizing the story, like a director, 2. you're forced to write through the hamfisted lense of a interactive toy, 3. videogames are time-constrained up the ass and good writing of fiction often takes a long time for authors to digest setting, characters, the plot, etc, to make it feel more nuanced and lived-in, and 4. videogames do a lot of show instead of tell, which is both a strength and a weakness.

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What games did he play?

>Not Junichiro Tanizaki
>Not Murasaki Shikibu
>Doesn't even bother to bait by saying Yukio Mishima

This

Atelier Rorona

Ironic weeb-bait games

Kinda this. In a way videogames are insanely limiting if you stick to traditional writing techniques. Its only worth it if you're exploring new ground entirely.

/lit/ is making fun of us again Sup Forumsros!

Yeah at first i thought the thread was about horrible writing given the highlighted passage. I'm sure the book is good but the passage does it no justice.

Those are similes reeeee

I get your point.

hehehoo /lit/ no taste

Well now I have to read it.

None. He got rid of his TV because he said he would get addicted to it otherwise, which was basically the maguffin of IJ pushed to ad absurdum. Seeing as videogames have now successfully surpassed that and people have played them literally to death, I doubt he'd be a big fan.

>That's the kind of sentences I avoid at all costs when I write my novels
Sure buddy.

BioWare used to have such good writing:

“My sweet little whorish Tali I did as you told me, you dirty little girl, and pulled myself off twice when I read your email. I am delighted to see that you do like being fucked arseways. Yes, now I can remember that night when I fucked you for so long backwards. It was the dirtiest fucking I ever gave you, darling. My prick was stuck in you for hours, fucking in and out under your upturned rump. I felt your fat sweaty buttocks under my belly and saw your flushed face and mad eyes. At every fuck I gave you your shameless tongue came bursting out through your lips and if a gave you a bigger stronger fuck than usual, fat dirty farts came spluttering out of your backside. You had an arse full of farts that night, darling, and I fucked them out of you, big fat fellows, long windy ones, quick little merry cracks and a lot of tiny little naughty farties ending in a long gush from your hole. It is wonderful to fuck a farting woman when every fuck drives one out of her. I think I would know Tali's fart anywhere. I think I could pick hers out in a roomful of farting women. It is a rather girlish noise not like the wet windy fart which I imagine fat wives have. It is sudden and dry and dirty like what a bold girl would let off in fun in a school dormitory at night. I hope Tali will let off no end of her farts in my face so that I may know their smell also."

>Kinda this. In a way videogames are insanely limiting if you stick to traditional writing techniques
Surely a good writer would want to challenge themselves then?

Fallout 3

Oh wow, now I get why /lit/ gets so mad about Murakami. This is so much worse than Tsukuru Tazaki.

It's confusing to people, but the dragons are not just a single being. All the risen you fought in orr, the eyes and mouths of zhaitan, were not for nothing. That's why when you get to final fight, its a malnourished dying dragon. Anticlimactic? Yes, but it at least makes more sense than fighting the dragon head on with a big army. I would argue that, set up wise, mordremoth is a weaker fight since the actions you do in HoT dont lead up to him, its just the commander traveling to him trahearne .

If you care about games, sure. But theres more then enough to master with prose and even screenwriting.

Games are also super resource intensive, so if you dont care about balancing all the pesky elements like gameplay, music, art, etc and just want to tell a story then youre better off just writing prose.

Is this real?..

>write essay
>TWO SENTENCES ARENT A PARAGRAPH REE
>guy writes book
>

reee

James Joyce fart letter, google it

>be autistic
>Move to LA
>smoke tons of weed
>listen to a radio, a lot
>fuck 2/10s
>crash in their apartments
>wear a cape
>only go out at night because you're afraid of people
>only go out at night to play DnD in someone's basement
>despite all this learn everything about the Americana and rockets
>start writing novels about Tupperware and shit
>add in some stupid songs you just made up on the spot
>write sentences ten pages long
>release your novels
>become one of most influential writers of 20th century, noted for your dense and complex novels
>mfw

>mfw have several things published in shitty fiction magazines
>mfw I still could not define the difference between a verb and adverb

I write the goodly when I try, but I did not fucking pay attention in any of my english classes and the theory/terminology escapes me to this day.

>bet you have a nerdy girlfriend with cute glasses and you get coffee at your favorite cafe every morning, huh ?
Why does it hurt so much bros?

A paragraph can be literally 1 sentence long if you fucking want it to. 99% of teachers are retarded and dont even know their own subject they teach. As evidenced by the fact that high school coaches have to teach fucking economics and history classes.

Very, very few writers know all the bullshit grammatical terms to perfection. Many just run on instinct and let the editor handle the rest.

Grim Fandango's pretty good

It's the wrong kind of limitations (creativity, time, etc). Can you learn something? Sure. Are you getting practice? Sure. Will it be a good end product? Probably not. Not to mention you'll probably be a writing in a team and during work hours—not really a good environment for writing.
How many good novelists have emerged from videogames?

In news writing, each individual sentence is labelled a paragraph.

Honestly it works better if you operate under the idea that paragraphs are contained thoughts rather than a set sentence limit. Usually 3-5 is acceptable especially in book form, but like most things in writing, it completely depends on what you're trying to convey, how much emphasis you want on it, whether or not you're being deliberately verbose or concise, etc.

Writing is all kinds of fucked because outside the actual laws of 'how you spell things and grammar', the only rule is there are no rules.