">Competitive Overwatch" edition
LA Valiant vs SF Shock on at the moment.
">Competitive Overwatch" edition
LA Valiant vs SF Shock on at the moment.
First for nobody caring
Who /hype/ here? I'm cheering on my boys LA.
Mercy shouldn't have rez, give her a quick burst in healing instantly or damage resistance like roadhog's heal on a target temporarily with a long cooldown to pop at best.
Was hoping Mayhem would beat Shock earlier. Considering how bad that went, I'm rooting for Valiant on principal.
competitive overwatch is clearly a massive success, salty TF2 players BTFO
When did Tracer become the Breakman?
How many people are watching right now?
If you're going to keep making this thread shouldn't it be moved to /vg/?
Wtf is Goku in this gay game?
OWL Team Jerseys (skins) change depending on who's playing. SF Shock is bright orange.
How about no?
TF2 players aren't all autists trying to force their game into a competitive scope. Meanwhile at least 90% of the OW community worship or circle around competitive.
Implying multiple threads for a live event is outside of the norm
Let alone warranting a general
how nu r u
SF has no chance. No way a team of soyboys from soycity could win anything
Whos your favorite Overwatch pro? Mines sinatraa.
OWL "pros" can't even aim
Lmao competitive overwatch
implying any city in commiefornia is better
make your game with casual elements to appease everyone
I like to suck cock but that's too gay for me.
Notice how SF can't win on payload maps, maps that take skill.
They went 3-1 against Florida earlier.
T b h, only ones I know by name are Seagull and xQc
, and I hate them both.
can't even aim
Nice bait kiddo.
Florida is pretty low tier unless they have Florida Man on their team. Which they didn't.
But they sold 10 billion copies!
or you know make it her ultimate
Seagull's alright but XQC is a complete manchild.
She'd be fundamentally fucked without Valkyrie. 1 res is not enough to make it an ult but more than 2 is ridiculous.
Babybay in charge of DPS
Why didn't Blizzard consider this when reworking her?
I need a viewer count RIGHT NOW
ywn enjoy that organic oil
40 GORILLION VIEWERS!
shoots at a character with one of the largest hitboxes in the game
dosen't even kill him
shoots lucio a few times, not killing him
presses aimbot button
this is actually some good bait keep posting it in future threads
Estimates are from 450k-500k right now.
Good luck with that.
I believe you.
her old rez was fine just get rid of the invincibility and make it los they can even add the casting time to it
This game is worse to watch than MOBAS
tfw the game you spent a solid year and a half looking forward to and nearly 8 months playing after release has a balance/new content cycle that is so fucking slow that it actually makes you stop playing because it makes the game boring and predictable
new maps take too long to develop and are in PTR for a month plus, BlizzWorld isn't set to come out until January
three heroes in this calendar year and one of them is so broken that the next major title patch is going to be the "Doomfist fix" patch
roll outs and getting back to the action from spawn is still an absolute snoozefest and feels more like a flowchart or job than an actual part of the game
majority of the content we get is "1XX new items!" in event lootboxes every three months, 2/3 of that is voice lines/sprays to fluff the item total
My uncle works at Blizzard and literally everyone on Earth has it open in three browser windows.
Blizzard games censor player numbers
their streams censor viewer numbers too
D E S P E R A T E
The state of Shock in that last fight
They learned from SC2. People declared it dead when it got to a few thousand online.
Doesn't make the games any less ead.
Their tornaments get ~10k viewers, now they changed platforms and don't show any numbers, not even any chat.
And the best part
720p 2008 tier budget stream
You can bitch and nitpick flaws about the game in your own thread. This one is for discussing competitive.
I'm actually kinda enjoying this, I couldn't get into competitive OW or esports in general before. I think this professional league set-up works for me.
Playing the Dragon short music during the break
RELEASE IT ALREADY YOU INCOMPETENT FUCKS
Wait this game has a competitive scene
It's another Korea is going to win everything episode
It's sad to see them miss the mark so hard when the game had so much potential. It seems to be the Blizzard way to create something beautiful and then gradually mismanage it into irrelevance.
Aren't all the teams like 80% Korean?
overcucks can't compete with chadstrike so a decade old f2p game only third-world trash still play is the closest thing they have to compete against
Dudes check out the New York team, 100% Korean, I was half expecting the Chinese team to be Korean too.
Finally, some pro Junkrat skills
There's 1 official Korean team. Then some other teams have a couple Korean players here and there. About half of LA Valiant's are Korean players.
damn finally some moira
What's there to discuss?
Finally, a team without Mercy
Using Moira nonetheless
It's San Fran
Koreans are so shit at fps that they play baby shit like Overwatch
London Spitfire is 100% Korean
spaced nearly evenly
no substance posts
sounds like a redditor
expecting people to not see your Pajeet level shilling
This one is for discussing competitive
Moira confirmed garbage
watching "COMPETETIVE" Overwatch
I could play better than these fuckers
Enter thread about something you know you don't like
S-STOP ADVERTISING TO ME!!
diversity based video game is succesful
Sup Forums hates it
quality bumps lads, keep it on page 1
Couldn't really see her do shit either.
Any time Reinhardt or Zarya are played they tend to overshadow everything with how important their Q Presses are.
Is LA our team?
These matches are so close
want to see how pro's play Zen/Mercy/Moira
Instead watch Tracer Adventurers
Anytime it's Ana immediately shift to her POV and positioning
End my life now please
:( What do you mean by even spacing???
Thanks for bumping the thread, it sure makes my job easier.
Barrage kills: 0
She's a good character but I still can't get over the way she runs.
Casters follow DPS 24/7
Killcams show most kills going to the tanks
shitposters are the only ones who'll bump this garbage anyway
Tracer is Blizzard's golden girl, don't expect to see her less any time soon. Especially with the weak ass spectator mode.
God, this is pathetic.
Some mediocre tracking on a roadhog
Fails to kill a luci
OMG IM SO GOOODDD!!
Here, have something thats actually entertaining to watch.
team korea next bois
Dynasty vs Dragons next
KOREA NUMBAH WAN
wraxu is more entertaining than this shit tbqh
Meh it's pretty boring desu. Do people really enjoy watching cherry picked frag videos?
/ourguys/ are dallas
Wraxu gets boring too fast.
He's only good at Hanzo and Roadhog.
Yeah the big joke of Overwatch is that most high level players are more entertaining streamers by themselves than the entirety of the OWL. The moment they are stopped getting paid out the ass to play this game it's gonna fall apart, because they could be playing anything else.
what happened to that game?
it's even more dead than overwatch isn't it
If overwatch is anything to go by
He's only good at scatter and hook
Team comprised of meme streamers
Railgun damage too high
Rocket Launcher too slow
Mad I paid money for it desu, Quake Live reamins the best arena shooter.
Wanna root for Dragons
Tfw they're doomed to get curbstomped by the superior Asian team
Just make it quick
This is your game on Russians. There's so much broken shit that it all stacks together to make the game a momentous pile of trash. Almost every game now is everyone using the same broken bullshit and it won't be fixed until this or next week.
Taimou is easily the most entertaining person in the entire league
actually good at the game
constantly criticizes the game and all its problems
got a benign growth in his body and named it Mercy
Its not just that they added "heroes.
All the added heroes are cringey as fuck and unlikable. Muting the voice volume shouldn't improve the game so much.
bring back aktm from japan
he was great
DPS is tied to FPS. This is beyond bad netcode.
50% of this thread looks very organic tbqh
How much does blizzard pay you guys? I could use the income
organic like a turd lmao
50% of the thread is talking about better games or making fun of it, so yeah, they're real.
Please stop talking about a videogame on a videogame forum
about as much as soros pays me to spam amerimutts
rock paper scissors skill ceiling
If you really want money from them, be a porn artist.
Since when is rock paper scissors settled by who gets their hand out first?
That's not the problem. There is a dedicated general on /vg/ for this.
Imagine if /lolg/ made threads on Sup Forums for every LCS game. It would be annoying as fuck.
Go back to your garbage general
connect four then
Playing Rock, Paper, Scissors with anything less than two teams of 6
This guy gets it.
Blizzard apologist coming through
Connect four has actual strategy involved. How about Candyland?
Literally the most fun playstyle in the game so of course Blizzard had to make her borderline unplayable.
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you need better aim in rock paper scissors, aimbot not provided
those fucking nineheads on team china
Overwatch is literally soyboy: the game.
Just look at Jeff. How can someone be so low-test?
That commentator looked like he was on the verge of bursting out into tears
actually watching this instead of memeing about how it's a joke
Overwatch is not video games.
Tumblr artists who've never played the game make fanart and ship the characters for mass reblogs
Models and popular cosplayers take to cosplaying OW characters even though they don't play the game, easy attention and easy money
Porn artists who don't play the game flood tags with OW stuff just because it will get the most clicks and maybe even patreon supporters
Shitposters who don't play the game just constantly point out that it demolished other class shooters as if it matters
People that do play the game are more focused on being one of the cool kids by getting lootbox gear or ranking up in competitive to be just like their favorite epic streamer (again, a social aspect) even though they get no joy from playing the game
With OW, Blizzard has created a socialite cult and a conduit for easy-access nerd cred. Everything revolving around and relating to Overwatch has absolutely NOTHING to do with the good gameplay for its own sake, it has everything to do with brand loyality and bandwagon mentality. If you enjoy games and aren't some shitstain that rode in on the Ps2, you shouldn't be able to stomach this garbage.
Commentary acting like China stands a chance
still mad because overwatch is successful and there's nothing they can do about it
This would be fun to watch if they forced everyone to play Tracer.
replace the game with reinhardt paintball imo
When you toss a ton of money at a """"competitive game"""" there is going to be some success. How long it will actually last, nobody knows.
This fucking commentary
What did he mean by this?
Nigga plis OW learned nothing from SC2, there are so many things done tremendously better in the latter
Okay, that stage is sick
that's what you said last year
And it has a free sales team in their old fans. I have a friend who literally cannot help himself but shill it to me, even though I've explained why I'm not buying it. He doesn't play it himself anymore, but he needs to sell Blizzard games to other people for some reason.
actually what the fuck? why don't they have that massive multi-part screen just showing what we're seeing?
Why are koreans so big into this anyway?
I thought FPS games were basically the one genre that asia as a whole barely touched, especially on a competitive level. It's not like any other FPS (Q3, UT99, UT2k4, TF2, RTCW, even the fucking CoD games) had any asian teams or players AFAIK.
pharah comfirmed for noobstomper
Blizzard told them it was SC3.
Holy shit Seoul, slow the fuck down.
Wew such a good character variety, right?
this is sad
China only got 5 elims
Overwatch takes no skill
HOW ELSE ARE YOU GONNA GET THE AEGIS IF YOU DONT KILL ROSHAN A TON
Because its a Blizzard game.
inb4 that one autist who spams screenshots from the archive in every overwatch thread picks this one up too
It's crazy how much easier OW is to watch when they change the colours up.
There's a reason they're not showing viewership
There's one different character on each team, what the fuck else do you want?
Seriously, I watched their stupid world cup and every fucking game had the same four-five characters on each team. The hell can't these pukes balance properly?
Because Overwatch is more of an RTS game than an FPS.
i am guessing the phrase dark templar corsair is lost on you
yeah I can't wait for them to announce another gay character this Christmas as another publicity stunt to prolong the game.
That's because the number is so huge human minds cannot comprehend it and people watching would die from how amazing the number is.
There was actually global interest but Blizzard killed off all tournies but their own, which koreans of course happen to dominate. Basically for koreans and koreans only pro-overwatch is a viable career. There is no point for anyone else to really try. That's why OWL is doomed.
The hell can't these pukes balance properly?
Except it's balanced... sorta. The thing is, there are no meaningful counterplay to most heroes and abilities, it all boils down to counterpicks, so the best composition is the one that is the least prone to that.
A N A
They are probably gonna put up some BS statistic. Like they are probably also counting how many people landed on the page just to check it out and then leave right away. Then at the end of the day
500k viewers! THANK YOU ALL
China's best support is a Lucio
Not sure how to feel.
You must be right. It's only natural that they have to hold back on their success so as not to overwhelm our feeble minds. Truly, we are not prepared.
Guarantee it. Same as player counts. X million accounts, not how many players they have.
i think the latest statistic is something like
overwatch players play two hours per day on average
That final push
how is korea so good at last point fights?
do they have a whole b team who is good enough to push the a team into that situation so that they can practice?
I'd say a rts is much more difficult to balance than a fps. I consider Paladins better in terms of balance than Overwatch and they're going full EA. Then again it has a larger roster and only one character per team but still.
I suppose you're right in a sense, but I find this mirror match crap duller than dustballs.
If only they could just give actual numbers.
Then again it has a larger roster and only one character per team but still.
Picks and bans really help it.
2 minute squash match incoming
some of the balance patches that blizzard have released have been quite heavy handed, and so far there have been few player innovations, i suppose innovating is more difficult in overwatch compared to an rts because there's others on your team, however i wish they would take a bit of a lighter hand where balance is concerned
Wish I could mute this commentary
holy fuck korea please
this is a massacre
That Seoul Zen skin looks so fucking nice
China looks surprisingly good on attack
The problem is they don't tweak their big balance patches much or well afterwards. So in attempting to fix one set of issues they introduce several new ones and then fail to address them almost completely until the next big balance patch. It's obvious that the player base is wising up and getting tired of this pendulum swing. I played WoW in vanilla and watched SC2 from the start and its amazing that Blizzard still hasn't learned from their heavy handed approaches. It's a testament both to their game making abilities and their ability to ruin said games that SC1 has stood the test of time virtually untouched since Broodwar.
How much is ActiBlizz paying you to repost a play-by-play of the stream to create the illusion that people actually give a shit about OWL?
Sweet jesus, props to Dragons all things considered
Enter thread about thing
Surprised that people are talking about that thing
It must be the shills!
If you're that insecure that someone is trying to sell you something, then why are you even here?
i still dont understand how the balance in scbw happened, i suspect it's because there's almost no ceiling to the skill that you can achieve in it, im not discounting the strategic element of it completely, but strategy definitely takes second fiddle to skill in brood war
it might just be the koreans fooling around for a bit
BAMBOOZLED BY DIYA
for real why didnt they at least try to put some pressure on her for a whole round
5 minutes on Point B
korea isnt completely unassailable in overwatch, they are the most consistently good, which probably comes from their great pedigree, but they arent unbeatable
2 - 0
As long as tracer is the meta dps do not expect the tanks to change.
I find this mirror match crap duller than dustballs
You are aware that you will never play at this level, right? For your average bronze to grand master match, pretty much the whole roster is more or less viable. It is only at this super high level that picks become as optimized as possible
M C C L I C K
Is it even possible to balance Overwatch at this point? It seems ever since release its been a slow roll into becoming unsalvageable. It just keeps getting worse and more boring as time goes on, and it was pretty boring at the start.
Wow, that makes watching this so much better. You make watching a bunch of bronze players try and fail at being competitive sound more entertaining than this tripe.
mercy is probably the only horrible thing right now, and she's had a pretty effective nerf just the other day, i still think she's a bit overwhelming, but the balance is currently the best its been
””major leauge”” gaming
holy balls, dva ult to deal with sound barrier? that's new
It was a pretty good stall
Q counters Q
Duuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh duh new meta from 2 years ago!
I will attempt to explain.
Essentially all the units are overpowered, and with perfect control there would be many ways to break the game. However the game is also obtuse and unoptimized, which together with the sheer amount of management necessary means the game can never be played perfectly. Players will always have to juggle more priorities than they can handle and choose what to focus on, and thus players are always making mistakes or being inefficient in some way.
This means that unlike many other RTS games, the player who gains the initial advantage can't just snowball to a guaranteed win, because even if you have a big lead you can never have a perfect lock down on the game. The bigger the size of your armies and expansions the more you overlook and control inefficiently. And because every unit is capable of game breaking stuff when controlled hard enough players aren't sitting around waiting for a handful of clutch moments to make plays. A skilled player can make serious gains with almost any combination of units in almost any situation, as long as he reads it right.
The fact that there is no perfect optimal way of playing means broodwar is always a mind game. It's about reading your opponent, being creative on the fly and maintaining control under pressure. And it's engaging all the way through because there are no dead moments where a player can't do anything but wait for an opportunity. The game can't be played perfectly so there are always opportunities to be found.
This combined with the slow grown expertise of mapmakers is what I believe has made broodwar uniquely balanced and fun to play and watch. It's an accidental masterpiece.
Reminder for fellow anti-comp ow posters to sage in the option field.
Because the game is less dependent on actual dexterity and more MOBA stuff, since everything is balanced around cooldowns and TTK is very high compared to other competitive FPSs. So while Koreans might not cultivate your usual FPS talent the same way Europe, Russians, or the US might, MOBA/RTS skills translate very well to Overwatch.
expertise of mapmakers
fucking this, it's something that I've never given that much thought to, but if you look at some of the weirder little things like eggs and extractors they really did improve, which opened up some weird tactics
this is a good post user, i definitely agree about the difficulty of playing, stuff goes wrong literally all the time in my matches as well as pro matches, units get forgotten, academies get built twice, etc etc
i wonder if we'll ever see another game like it
Posting in a thread just to announce your downvote
Fucking love this theme
rts games arent about dexterity
have you never played starcraft? gooks go crazy for that shit
overwatch in general
how bad is it
these fucking airshots
Don't be obtuse. We had a bunch of threads about a guy playing with his feet in the last 48 hours. While the ability to input and read information quickly is useful in both genres, the conditioning for FPS and an RTS are very different. Hell, even between different FPSs, as Quake pros can attest to the differences between various incarnations of Quake from 2 to 3 to CPMA to Live to Champions, and so it goes for classic RTS like Starcraft to Dota 2 or LoL.
We had a bunch of threads about a guy playing with his feet in the last 48 hours
Larva is not "a guy" he's motherfucking Larva
But I guess you are the average Sup Forumstard and therefore ignorant, stupid, loudmouthed and quite mentally retarded. Have a good night
Games were still made to fit technical limitations back then. A lot of the creative design decisions were simply about trying to cram as many features as could fit. And because the infancy of the internet they didn't dare release an unpolished product.
Maybe someone will learn to apply some of the magic behind bw but I doubt we'll ever see a hands off approach like that ever again. Technical limitation induced creativity is long gone.
that's not just some guy, that's larva
They actually capped
4 - 0
4 - 0
4 - 0
Dragonfags on suicide watch
there does not appear to be limitless gains with Moore's law, and there still exist small cabals of people making elegant solutions to programming challenges, however it is definitely not the norm
and with the explosion of jobs in the field that saw my friend with a music degree land a job developing for a national health service, i predict at least ten years more of the same bloaty featurecreep crap that almost forces obsolescence on older devices
I hoped that with tech revolution of the last three decades slowly but surely we would see the luddites go and everyone have to gain some basic proficiency with tech. Instead tech businesses have evolved to cater to said idiots for easy money.
It's a sad state when society's only real incentive to be smart is so you can exploit the stupid people.
the star trek future is a dream that has passed us by, i do fear for the future, we are experiencing the worst that capitalism has to offer right now, i think we will all need to radically change the way we view our lives and our roles in the world at large if we ever want to travel the stars
Why did Jeff kill the best character in this game?
we want the neogaf audience
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