Why do so many people in the fallout universe still live in ruins when its been over 200 years and they clearly have...

Why do so many people in the fallout universe still live in ruins when its been over 200 years and they clearly have the numbers and recourses to not sleep in literal garbage every day like the bombs only dropped yesterday?

>fallout universe

fuck off kid

>pretending to be this autistic about the way I worded something in a sentence.
You are pretending, right?

That's actually what the Brotherhood of Steel is trying to do. Restore order and rebuild. Though groups like raiders, super-mutants, ghouls, and the other hostile forces are preventing them from doing it.

i'm saying you should fuck off

Bethesda knows the appeal of the setting to casuals is that it's post-apocalyptic, so they'll never allow any of the game settings to develop beyond looking like the bombs dropped last week. Digging through the garbage of the old age is the appeal for too many people, so they're willing to compromise the believability of the setting to enable it. They don't give a shit, but for some weird reason they insist on moving the franchise timeline forward with every instalment instead of setting them in appropriate periods.

Fallout 3 shows their approach most clearly. They're focused on keeping the franchise recognizable and marketable at the expense of everything else, so what did it focus on? The brotherhood of steel versus supermutants. Americana and hyperviolent gorn. Living off the old worlds garbage. Vaults and retrofuturistic nuclear powered everything.

this
nu fallouts are "focus groups: the game"

Bethesda doesn't know how humans work.
Look at the first Fallouts; humanity began building on the ashes of the old world. The vaults were the relics of the past.

In bethesda fallouts, apparently there is still edible food in peoples houses 200 years later

>Why africa doesnt live like millionaires its not like europeans raided them yesterday
Hmm really makes you think

It has always bugged me, like people couldn't just get a broom and sweep away some of the piles of garbage and detritus just lying around in their homes and streets? Or maybe paint over some of the rusted out piles of scrap metal they live in? It always just feels stupid that people are not even trying the bare minimum to keep their houses/towns/whatevers clean

someone should make a game in a world on the verge of post-apocalypse. a world that's been lived on past it's potential. food is scarce because of overpopulation. resources are nearly depleted.

europeans never raided them
they raided themselves
and now the chinese are trying to scam their gold and diamonds

That sounds like an interesting concept, it will never be made because of that.

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I think even casuals would enjoy seeing a rebuilt civilization though, there are countless games that have people living in destroyed civilizations and surviving off scavenging and hunting like early humans did before we were civilized. But usually in these games civilization has collapsed very recently, so people are still recovering. Fallout doesn't have that excuse, and gives more opportunities for an interesting world with cities and towns built from the ground up by survivors. It could lead to fascinating customs and new cultures that simply were not able to be created before the bombs dropped. Wouldn't casuals like that? Exploring a future society that doesn't live in luxury, yet is surviving and thriving and rebuilding.

So do Ghouls need to eat?

What the fuck.
Bethesda, why?

>Bethesda, why?
BECAUSE WHY NOT

I just assumed the fucked up technology they have in that universe included food preservatives. Even nu vegas has that sunset sarsaparilla shit that ain't even radioactive like nukaco.

Isn't that what Battlefield 2142 was about?

Because aboriginals have lived in mud and straw huts all of their existence, and black and other mud skin ethnics are the majority of NPCs in the game.

Nobody cares enough, and it's too much shit to do without machines and power is relatively scarce.

Daily reminder that Vault-Tec has FEV and that the most powerful Pre-War power armor is the T-60.

aboriginals are disgusting and don't seem to possess any sort of intelligence though, they get a pass.

Mudbricks are literal nigger tier and can work in plenty of the environments we've explored. Getting some multi-storey hab blocks out of those isn't exactly hard.

it hurts to know the BF4 futuristic DLC is most likely the only taste of 2143 we'll get now that they're back on the historical shooter bullshit.

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Look at how quick europe recovered after ww2 even the one who didn't receive funds from America like the east block.

That takes forever to do in comparison with just building with the scrap that's around.
Nobody's going to waste time waiting around for bricks to dry when there are super mutants around

Why don't these hacks understand the importance of internal consistency?

Why not just add magic and dragons then? It's still clearly trying to be somewhat realistic.

That's pretty in character for raiders.

So you have your scrap area set up, thick mud bricks are pretty effective at swallowing bullets. Just ask anyone who's served in Afghanistan. Even the M242 has issues, since it tends to either crater it slowly or overpenetrate completely. Shit for clearing buildings.

People have been build way better houses in the past when you were just as likely to be killed by neighbouring tribes or tigers or whatever while they had to scavenge for food and dirty water.

>I don't care about the mechanics of the game we developed.

A little bit of a difference between tribes with sticks and raider groups with high explosives and vehicles.
When it took days of walking to get to the neighboring tribe it was easier to spend time setting up.

All the more reason to mass produce mudbricks desu. Scrap will block absolutely nothing, while you can get actually bullet and explosive resistant defences going in a few days with mudbricks.

I don't get whats wrong with this one.

>spend months building mudbrick shelter
>camp out in this abandoned building with interior lighting and ventilation already in place
hmm

mongolians keep breaking their stuff

Europe carved up their continent, killed them in the millions, and took a ton of their resources before leaving. What kind of retarded definition of "raiding" are you using?

Maybe they don't *need* to for survival, but they're compelled to by instinct and probably still enjoy a meal regardless.

Where would they get the paint?

I want an explanation by the devs that isn't "lol just turn ur brain off" but I know that likely won't happen.

That's what fan lore is for

Europeans killed and raided each other in the millions aswell, Some of the most brutal wars in history have been between europeans but somehow they're able to recover unlike africans.

>Abandon building that should be horrendously compromised by now
Even if you do set up in the building though, there's literally no reason not to start production. It takes fuck all time to get them set up, and you can build a wall or at least some kind of defences around your place.

>Africa was a shining utopia before the Arabs and the white man showed up

Or you can staple a few layers of sheet metal and call it done

Or you can use that sheet metal for other things, given that metal is an infinitely more valuable resource.
Or you can reinforce mudbrick with sheet metal
People are going to congregate in communities of 100-200 pretty naturally very early on, getting enough metal to protect that is going to be annoying and a huge waste of trade power. Mudbricks + a motte is low tech and can be done easily while sacrificing little trade power.
Then think about the rate of metal production compared to the population this far into post WW3 history.

The biggest communities hole up in much better buildings so what is your point?

>Look at how quick europe recovered after ww2
>Look at how quick Hiroshima and Nagasaki recovered after ww2
It's not applicable to the Fallout universe where a global thermonuclear war destroyed almost all life on the planet. There are no foreign countries to send aid, all food sources are irreparably destroyed, most living life forms that aren't mutated are either dead or in a vault.

I want to know more about Vault-Tec. Ingame, you don't learn shit about them or their headquarters other than "We're a big spoopy company behind the scenes of the vaults and used it to perform all kinds of interesting experiments we couldn't morally get away with otherwise"

Where is their HQ? Did they have their own Vaults to survive the nukes? The "All-Clear" was never sent from HQ to the vaults that would receive it, did anyone at Vault-tec survive? The salesman in 4 did as a Ghoul. What was their endgame? Are we ever going to see them as the Final Boss of the final Fallout game? (Read: Never becauase it's still profitable as long as you can mod sex shit into it for free)

>removing the karma system
Why

get out underage

Doesn't really work. Abos and niggers never saw a wheel.

In Fallout 4 the remnants of civilisation are everywhere.

Just play through Fallout and Fallout 2 while reading item descriptions.

>BoS trying to get rid of all impurities
Make the Wasteland Great Again

So an apocalypse?

Aboos and niggers still haven't got wheels that they made themselves.