What do you think is the worse 3D Zelda game?

What do you think is the worse 3D Zelda game?

Wind Waker

(your favorite zelda)

Breath of the wild
It isn't even a Zelda game

This.

In a few years everyone will look back and pretend they didn't liked it anyway.
same happened with Twilight Princess .
Nintenbros are fucking retarded

Stop trying to force the Zelda cycle

Skyward Sword, no discussion.

>worse selection/implementation of items
>worse dungeons
>worse plot/characters
>worst companion
>shitty new origins for everyone and everything, including the Master Sword

>In a few years everyone will look back and pretend they didn't liked it anyway

Pretty much, yeah.

Its literally the only Zelda game along with the first one that is an actual Zelda game. Think about it, what is the defining feature of Zelda? Is it the villain that has been the same for every game? No. Is it going through all the different themed dungeons? No. Is it about using new items you find a long the way to further your progress? No.

It's literally only about being able to do all the dungeons in whatever order you want and having that exploratory freedom. What's that you say? That the 20 games that came after the first one that are all very similar and much more iconic are really the true heart of the series? Sorry but no those games are just pale imitations.

I'm 40 years old and every Zelda has disappointed me after the first one because they are not real Zelda games.

Breath of the Wild is the first REAL Zelda since the first one because you can go in whatever order you want and that's literally all that matters in Zelda and that's why it's the best one.

He said worse, not worst, so you had a choice between the two OP presented.

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I like them all, but out of the bunch I'd say Skyward Sword or Twilight Princess.

My main complaint about Skyward Sword is that it dragged on a bit near the end and that it re-used too many bosses. But the the dungeons were pretty fucking fantastic and I, personally, really enjoyed the motion controls (with the exception of dowsing, that mechanic was fucking retarded).

My main complaint about Twilight Princess is that the artstyle was pretty shit and the whole intro was extremely tedious. Not to mention that the world felt very empty and lifeless. It had some of the coolest characters in the series though, and a pretty cool story.

We all know it's Skyward Sword, and not because of motion controls but because of constantly revisiting areas, refighting bosses and almost the entire game being corridors.

TP
>worst story
>worst visuals
>worst items
>worst soundtrack
>wolf segments
>clusterfuck of halfbaked mechanics
>worst dungeons

I would really like TP if there was no loli, no wolf, and no drawn out intro
They're my main gripes tbqh

You just have shit taste, deal with it.

Both of the games in the op are shit. They almost pushed me away from the franchise.

A link between worlds nigga

your bait fails

OoT is unplayable

Except you couldn't do the dungeons in any order in Zelda I without at least doing half and getting the item. Which you could do in every Zelda before Wind Waker.

BoTW

how can it be the worst zelda game if it's not a zelda game you complete mongoloid

*blocks your inventory*

I dont understand the intro thing. You just herd some goats, see the kids get kidnapped and you're off.

The only reason Zelda 1 could be open world was because every dungeon was nothing but enemy rooms.

The series had to become more linear once they introduced weapon-based progression. But the trade-off was better dungeons, enemies, and overworlds.

ALTTP and OOT were the closest we got to a blend of both.

MM > BOTW > WW > TP > OOT > SS

Enough said

>I dont understand the intro thing. You just herd some goats, see the kids get kidnapped and you're off.
This takes an hour or more to do. Plus there's that first wolf tutorial before you meet Zelda.

Wolf Tutorial is just Midna getting on top of you and telling you one thing about chains and talking to sprits.

You might be over exaggerting.

Not really? Just pop over into 3 and pick up the raft real quick, then over the lake to 4 to get the stepladder and that's it, the rest of the game is available.

What the fuck user

It's more like the NES Zelda and even Zelda: ALttP than any other Zelda game

OoT copies ALttP's story but that's it. OoT started the linear Zelda trend, but BotW took Zelda back to it's roots.

BotW > MM >= OoT> WW > TP > SS

Haven't finished SS yet but i probably prefer TP overall. But SS is still great fun, listening to people here i was expecting much worse

OoT64 > OoT3D > OoTMQ > OoT Wii U > OoT Wii > MM64 > MM Wii > MM3D > BotW Switch > BotW Wii U > TPHD > TP GCN > TP Wii > TWW > TWWHD > PH > HW > HW Legends > ALBW > ST > LoZ Unfinished 30th Anniversary Ed. > Battle Quest > SSBM Zelda-themed Adventure Stage > MM:CE > SS

TP didn't have forced Wagglan controls. TP wins by fucking default

>What do you think is the worse 3D Zelda game?
>"this game that isn't a Zelda game"

Hating TP is a meme. It is quite honestly the best 3D Zelda, I love that shit. I haven't seen anyone on here critique it without resorting to "muh wolf sections that take 5 minutes" or posting shit from that Boss Keys video because they're so devoid of their own opinions.

Boss keys video?

Some youtuber who pointed out that TP dungeons all have a similar flow for the most part, so people keep posting screenshots from the video in TP threads and acting like it's bad or that it means all the dungeons play the same when they don't

TP issue for me is that it's a pretty bad looking game and by the time TP came out the "Zelda formula" was wearing thin. Since TP is more or less trying to be OoT 2.0. It's honestly not a bad game at all hell no Zelda game is honestly bad. But it is one of the most bland Zelda game in the view of when it came out.

Never played a Zelda game in my life.

Do the GC and Wii ones emulate well?

I swear i'm not baiting, but personally, Ocarina of time
it's unplayable for people that don't have their nostalgia shield

TP and SS are the worst, TP slightly more so


The only people who love TP are the ones who were too young to appreciate just how shitty it was. There are people on this board right now who were 7 years old in 2006.

You're wrong, i only played it in recent years and it was great, not to mention the 3DS remaster is popular and mechanically speaking that barely changes anything

I'll never understand how Majora's Mask gets all the praise it does.

The dark story and atmosphere is cool and all, its main quest is by far the weakest of all the 3D Zeldas. Wind Waker and Twilight Princess are easily better games, but get shat on way more by the fanbase for some reason.

then i guess super mario 64 isnt a true mario then. since i dont end every level by reaching the final pole

MM > BotW > OoT > WW > SS > TP

anything else is a meme opinion

I only played in recent years too, and couldn't keep myself playing it, so you are the one that is wrong!

Skyward isn't that bad, desu. My vote is for BotW. It was awful.

Wow it's almost like people have opinions.
Not even him but i just played OoT for the first time recently and it was one of the best games i have ever played. Everything about it just seems so original.
You must just have a shit attention span

>Hot twilight waifu vs autistic robot "sidekick"
Need I really say more?

MM, OoT and BotW are the only games that felt like they actually accomplished what they set out to do

WW, TP and SS are all fine games, but they felt half-baked.

TP for me. I have never even finished it. SS is garbage too but with TP it just felt like I wasn't playing for hours and hours. I know SS did it too but I dunno. I'm not trying to make an objective argument I just really didn't like TP.

>"it was one of the best games i have ever played"

sometimes when I see people genuinely enjoying games, it makes me kind of sad

I don't know if I can feel that anymore

Wind Waker is the worst. No matter how good you artstyle is your shit game design is still shit.

Twilight Princess.

Controversial, I know.

There is quite a bit of merit to that as well. So disappointing and unengaging.

Ocarina of Time, I'm not trying to be contrarian it just never clicked with me.

>botw
>It's more like the NES Zelda
user stop

worst dungeon design: BotW (WW honourable mention)

worst overworld design: SS (TP honourable mention)

worst combat: SS (OoT honourable mention)

worst bossfights: WW (BotW honourable mention)

worst music: TP (SS honourable mention)

worst story: BotW (TP Honourable mention)

worst characters: TP (SS Honourable Mention)

I wouldn't call it a bad game by any means, but i have to agree. It just felt like an incomplete experience to me

Skyward Sword is everything dodgy about Twilight Princess exacerbated to the breaking point so Skyward Sword. That said, neither are bottom of the barrel 3D Zeldas, even Skyward Sword is better than Wind Waker or Breath of the Wild.

You might have a point if Breath of the Wild had dungeons worth a shit but it doesn't.

>worst characters: TP
How about you back the fuck up? TP had the best assortment of NPCs in the entire series and Midna is time-honored. I have never seen an opinion as awful as yours

WW isn't perfect, but you could tell what they were trying to do. It's a flawed masterpiece.

TP on the other hand, felt like a game that nobody wanted to make. Outside of the dungeons, I have no idea what they were even trying to do. The wolf transformation was a complete nothing, and there wasn't really anything else in the game to set it out from the rest of the series. It was like the NSMB of Zelda.

ugly, inconsistent character design
nobody other than Midna affects the story in any significant way
50% of the NPCs don't even fucking speak to you

waifufags need not apply

I don't even know where to begin

fpbp

This reads like those idiots shitting on FFIX's cast
>It's weird so it must be shit!

I am playing TP right now and I don't understand why people don't like it.
It has a great amount of enemies, items and dungeons to do.
The initial story of the kidnapping was fine, and the wolf segments aren't that bad

And I like the character designs

>Ugly
Yes, but I'm almost certain it was intentional except for Ilia who they tried to shill even though she was shit in every regard. The characters are somewhat macabre-looking exaggerations that fit nicely with the melancholic, serene and somewhat moody atmosphere of TP. I love the characters and they were brimming with personality, even the one-off minigame guys

>inconsistent
Looks pretty consistent to me

>They don't affect the story in any significant way
So they're Zelda NPCs, yes

>50% of the NPCs don't even speak to you
Almost all of them do

Why TLOZ always have gay carpenters/clowns?

Without a doubt Skyward Sword. The controls are obviously a step up from Twilight Princess Wii but absolutely everything else is a step back. Zelda games shouldn't be THAT linear, and aside from controls and like, two dungeons, it was unremarkable.

Skyward Sword no doubt. Fucking terrible game.

The character designs were inconsistent. Half of them looked like generic animu. The other half looked like grotesquerie of freaks. It worked in OoT and MM because of the limited graphics capabilities. It does not work with TP's touted "realistic graphics",

WW had weird designs, but they were consistent withing the artstyle. Learn the fucking difference

Skyward Sword is the worst Zelda in general, 3D regardless. It was a zelda that was so far from what zelda is supposed to be. It wasn't fun and the controls were ass.

Skyward Sword, but it's still a great game

SS. No hesitation

Repeating it won't make it any more true

>worst dungeon design: BotW (WW honourable mention)

Right Zeldas, wrong places. Even the divine beasts are better than WW's pitiful dungeons.

>worst overworld design: SS (TP honourable mention)

WW for HM, it's gated for as long as TP's is and sailing is a novelty that is celebrated largely for being different when on-foot travel is still better.

>worst combat: SS (OoT honourable mention)

BotW with WW for HM. Enemies are damage sponges in BotW, not to mention weapon degradation and flurry rush/bullet time being the only useful mechanics that aren't gimmicky as fuck. WW is OoT's but with parry QTEs.

>worst bossfights: WW (BotW honourable mention)

TP for worst, they all have fantastic presentation but 2/3rds of them are nigh absolute braindead pushovers and only Zant and Ganondorf are genuinely decent battles. Even WW had better bosses.

>worst music: TP (SS honourable mention)

Acceptable opinion, though I think TP's music matches the game's mood well.

>worst story: BotW (TP Honourable mention)

Also acceptable.

>worst characters: TP (SS Honourable Mention)

On average maybe but Midna and Groose are genuinely two of the all-time best characters in the series.

>WW had weird designs, but they were consistent withing the artstyle
Just like TP's characters. The only one in the screenshot you posted that looked significantly different from the others were the Zelda/Link/Ganondorf for obvious reasons, and Shad. You're just showing your favoritism.

but twilight princess was good

...

Every Zelda game is good, but one of them still has to be the worst

TP's one of those games where people usually enjoy it while playing it but then they step back and see the cracks in the armor when really looking at it. That said, it's the same for every other post-N64 3D Zelda.

twilight princess being the worst 3d zelda is not a controversial opinion

Wind Waker is the worst 3D Zelda. But OP is asking whether Twilight Princess or Skyward Sword is worse. The answer is Skyward Sword. Despite having a fantastic surface overworld, it's split into three isolated levels accessible through an empty sky overworld. There is a lot of backtracking and reuse of areas, rehashed boss fights, Fi crushing your hand in the amount of handholding. I could go on. That's not to say Skyward Sword isn't a good game. It's just not as good as Twilight Princess.

It is when you suddenly remember that SS was a thing. I'd take a second-rate OoT over whatever the fuck SS was trying to do.

>On average maybe but Midna and Groose are genuinely two of the all-time best characters in the series.
this guy gets it

But yeah, outside of those two TP and SS's casts were pretty fucking boring.

I love all the work that went into the character building in BotW. It felt like a Bethesda game without the stilted voice acting and terrible gameplay.

because there are no cracks in OoT and MM

>using "literally" this many times
You need to expand your vocabulary.

What are some good synonyms for literal, user?

MM is arguable based on one's disposition for its unique qualities but OoT is definitely the most solidly designed of the lot across the board. Relative to its sequels it's very jack-of-all-trades. Its biggest sins largely pertain to it simply being as old as it is.

I went and played them for the first time recently and TP felt like OOT but strictly better. Maybe that doesn't work for you if you played OOT ages ago and wanted something new out of TP but from all the shit talking on Sup Forums TP really surpassed my expectations and OOT failed to meet them. MM held up really well though.

I grew up as a OoTfag and I generally prefer TP.

If you want to emphasize something, using "really" is a good option

That's terrible advice

The problem with TP is that it didn't do anything new. It's essentially "Ocarina of time, but more of it." It didn't have an identity of its own. Even the wolf sections are basically a retread of LttP's bunny sections. MM added the time limit, SS introduced bad combat, the DS games were built around the idea of being shit, and BotW brought us Ubisoft towers. TP was just a Zelda game with its head up OoT's ass.

With OoT it tends to get bonus points for doing it first. TP is overall more polished and just plain has better dungeons, but I understand the preference for OoT. I love both games and I really appreciate the tone TP was going for in trying to make the adventure feel like this huge epic. It justifies the slow beginning for me.

Replace every "literally" with "really" on the post this is about and see how much better it becomes

I think he's on to something, user. I hadn't really thought about it before because truth be told, it's a Zelda game (they don't have to design shit) and I fall in love with each and every one of them, but TP's people really are all jarringly different from one another. The argument could be that "realistically" nobody would look like anyone else, but honestly they hardly look like they're from the same species save for basic humanoid form. Zelda, Link, Ganon and even Midna (true form) look reasonably similar, anyone from that other user's pic (aside from Hena and the Indian guy) look like they come from some different game(s) entirely.

>Implying this board isn't full of underage faggots.