Which proves that no matter what you do, you can't fully control the IP of another publisher...

Which proves that no matter what you do, you can't fully control the IP of another publisher, even if you paid for it's development....

So don't be surprised when you see Bayonetta sequels being announced on other platforms, in the future.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lego_City_Undercover
youtube.com/watch?v=RRRuhviJGMQ
gamespot.com/articles/sony-settles-ps2-class-action-suit/1100-6139482/
ign.com/articles/1997/01/29/sony-changes-psx-to-correct-fmv-skip-problem
youtube.com/watch?v=P6gmF4I4lU4
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninja_Gaiden_3#Ninja_Gaiden_3:_Razor's_Edge
twitter.com/SFWRedditImages

Okay?
Nintendo owns 2 and 3, they have nothing to do with 1.

Do you even know what publisher means?

did you actually make this?

The main point is the exclusive deal
>Nintendo: Funded a games of other companies that later had ended up on other platforms
>Same did Microsoft, but only did a favor to Sony, lol

Still not giving up hope? You really think Nintendo doesn't have enough ownership over 2 after it not getting ported with 1? Especially since you included RE4, a game that when ported to PS2 was such a betrayal from Capcom that Shinji Mikami left because of it.

Microsoft didn't fund anything they just paid for a timed exclusive

You do know RE4 being ported to the PS2 at the last second pissed Mikami off so much he left Capcom right?

You don't understand the difference between a timed exclusivity deal and funding the development of the game and being the sole publisher/owner?

Nintendo has rights to Bayo 2 and 3. They aren't going to any other console unless Nintendo approves so.
It's not a timed exclusive deal.
It's literally Nintendo owning part of those games.

Who got you so riled up you went and did this with your time today?

Shinji Mikami didn't left capcom because of RE4, he left them after closing Clover Studio, do a research first.

Same was Lego City Undercover, Resident Evil 4 and Revelations1.....

they pay for some of the publishing to get limited exclusivity deals. It's pretty normal

Wrong.
>Mikami touted the game as a GameCube exclusive. In an interview with a Japanese magazine, Mikami even said that he would "commit harakiri" if it came out on another platform.[17] This was loosely translated as Mikami claiming to "cut [his own] head" and later parodied in God Hand, which featured a racing dog named "Mikami's Head". In 2017 in an interview he gave apologies for Resident Evil 4 going multiplatform.[18]

Lego City Undercover was fully funded by Nintendo

Okay but what has that to do with leaving Capcom?

Didn't he left Crapcom when they closed Clover Studio?

citation needed

Are you that lazy to go and check on Wikipedia?

No it wasn't. It's a normal case of Nintendo approaching them and asking if they would like to develop a game for Wii U. Nintendo published it for their own console but didn't buy ownership. They even considered the possibility of ports to other consoles right off the bat but dismissed it until years later.

Nintendo didn't own any of those at any point.

Being a publisher doesn't equate to owning a game.

Because he left Capcom after finding out they ported it to PS2 behind his back.

Obviously it depends on the contract. You can pay to publish on your platform but you can also approach a developer and ask them to make a game for you that you will then own.

Nintendo doesn't own any of the games in OP's post. Nintendo does own Bayonetta 2 (and probably 3), Platinum owns the Bayonetta IP and Sega owns Bayonetta 1.

Kamiya already said Bayo2 coming to non-Nintendo platforms is as likely as Zelda and Mario coming to Playstation. But you can just play 2 on CEMU anyway and 3 I assume eventually on a Switch emulator.

Cry more, sonyfag.

>the absolute SALT from this announcement

Nintendo doesn't owns Bayonetta as well, it's a SEGA IP.
So what's your point?

I guess this is obvious bait but there are multiple levels of publishing a game.

Sega is the full owner of the IP, even the Teaser of Bayonetta 3 had Sega's logo on it.

Intellectual property can be owned on many different levels, Sega owns the copyright to Bayonetta, based on just the trailer for Bayonetta 3.

Nintendo doesn't wholly own the Pokemon IP but Nintendo own the Pokemon Trademark, although their control is pretty absolute.

Oh you're right actually. But doesn't change the fact it all comes down to contract. If the developers say it's entirely up to Nintendo what platforms it is released on then it must mean they have a contract that gives Nintendo full control over it. Otherwise they would mention Sega at least.

I mean the way I heard it Bayonetta 2 was not going to happen at all because there was no publisher interested in picking it up so it makes sense they would sign a contract that gives Nintendo full exclusivity if the alternative is not making the game at all.

What value is Bayonetta even to Sega at this point, I wonder who's the holdout, Nintendo doesn't want to pay the price to own it, or if Sega doesn't want to charge a reasonable price or if Sega doesn't want to sell, this is getting stupid.

LMAO this is like when mustards thought they could still get Bloodborne because of the SCE division of Sony existing.

Get fucked, so(n)yboys. Bayonetta is /our/ girl now.

It's almost like there are variables at play which determine how they're handled in the future.

>it's the Bayonetta 2 butthurt all over again

NEVER EVER

WB owns the rights of any LEGO franchise, Nintendo fully fund Lego City Undercover, but the exclusive deal was broken after 4 years later.
The situation with Pokemon trademark works like this, nobody besides nintendo can ever make a pokemon game. this is how it works.

But Bayonetta situation is different, Nintendo may fund the sequels, in a same way they did with Lego City Undercover. SEGA is the owner of the IP and trademark.
Let's put everything like this, we all know that evry exclusive game on Nintendo is getting the highest hype, right?
What if SEGA is trying to make Bayonetta a more big named IP by using Nintendo, and later screwing them like did Capcom and WBgames?

You know the contract can just say its exclusive forever? Its not like the 90s where Nintendo had a monopoly so they weren't allowed to do that.

>>Nintendo: Funded a games of other companies that later had ended up on other platforms
This literally never, ever happened.

>This literally never, ever happened.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lego_City_Undercover
You might find this pretty interesting

Wikipedia is not a source faggot. Even elementary school kids know that

>You know the contract can just say its exclusive forever?
It's can't if they aren't the owners of the IP
Soon ore later SEGA will screw them after Bayonetta will become a more popular franchise

>It's can't if they aren't the owners of the IP
[citation needed]

Okay, it happened once. All of the other games they've ever financed have never gone multiplatform.

All you have to do OP is point out banjo kazooie, thats it

Drink my cum, homosexual
They fund and published the game in 2013

...

>All of the other games they've ever financed have never gone multiplatform.
You mean their own IP's?

Kamiya broke this shit down back in 2013.

>Fund and Publish our Bayo2 and W101
They might own the IP of W101, but Bayonetta is a SEGA IP.

Can you not read?

Kamiya can shit on his own head, he's just a clown and a media whore

And have partial ownership of Bayonetta 2. Goldeneye will never see a remake of the N64 original because Nintendo owns it partially along with Rare, who are now owned by Microsoft.

you can't fully control an IP if you did not buy the IP. IP is not one game, and not every publishing contract is the same

Same thing said Shinji Mikami back in 2004-2005 about Resident Evil 4....
We saw how it worked out.

Twin Snakes and Eternal Darkness.

Nintendo only published RE4 for the Gamecube in Europe. They had no degree of ownership of it, Mikami just wanted it to be a GCN exclusive because he personally hated the PS2 and didn't want to downgrade it for inferior hardware.

>Twin Snakes
Cheap knockoff of MGS1

>Eternal Darkness.
Their own IP... So< what's your point?

so(n)ybros in denial

>PS2 Inferior Hardware
> Mikami just wanted it to be a GCN exclusive because he personally hated the PS2
>Later made the GOD HAND for PS2

You're pretty retarded, dude.

>Goldeneye will never see a remake of the N64 original
Like people give a fuck about Goldeneye N64 game this days.

Shinji Mikami, producer of Resident Evil and Devil May Cry, strongly criticized Sony and Square in a recent radio interview in Japan.

Mikami accused Sony of purposely designing their consoles to break easily so that gamers will have to buy a replacement. He also said that Sony's high sales figures are helped by the fact that many gamers, himself included, have had to buy a second PlayStation and PlayStation 2.

From there, Mikami went on to accuse Sony of doing the same thing with their line of PCs, Walkmans, and cell phones. He asked why no one has complained about this and said that it was almost like cheating and committing a crime. The radio DJ tried to interrupt Mikami and shift the conversation to another topic, but when Mikami was asked if he thought Sony's customers are foolish, he replied, "Yes."

Next, Mikami said that Kingdom Hearts' strong sales are due to "aura purchase," meaning that customers are buying the game because their friends have bought it or like it, regardless of whether they like the game themselves. He said that Kingdom Hearts does not deserve its 780,000 sales or 6800 yen price tag.

Finally, he apologized to Square, saying he is upset that Kingdom Hearts has sold more copies than Biohazard for the Gamecube. He said that Biohazard is the better game, but Kingdom Hearts is not a bad game either.

Neither Square nor Sony has made any comments regarding Mikami's statements.

Just buy a pc and wait for switch a emulator. There's no way nintendo would release it on PS4/PC. Wait a few years, you don't need to play a game when it comes out

youtube.com/watch?v=RRRuhviJGMQ
Wrong.

>Cheap knockoff of MGS1
That's besides the point, you seem to have trouble focusing.

Correct

Man, you're one stupid motherfucker who doesn't understand how publising works.

You won't find a single negative comment on that video.

>Mikami accused Sony of purposely designing their consoles to break easily so that gamers will have to buy a replacement.

So how's that my PS2 is 14-years old, and it's still runs games without any problem?

brainlet op lmao

PS2s were so faulty Sony lost a class action lawsuit over it.
gamespot.com/articles/sony-settles-ps2-class-action-suit/1100-6139482/
Are you addicted to being wrong or something?

>Mikami accused Sony of purposely designing their consoles to break easily so that gamers will have to buy a replacement
>He also said that Sony's high sales figures are helped by the fact that many gamers, himself included, have had to buy a second PlayStation

My PS1, which my dad bought before I was born I'm 18 still works fine.

OP it took 13 YEARS for this game to come on anything but Nintendo platforms.

He was right about them being faulty.
ign.com/articles/1997/01/29/sony-changes-psx-to-correct-fmv-skip-problem
No class action lawsuit that time though.

youtube.com/watch?v=P6gmF4I4lU4
Same with Golden Eye: Rogue Agent

fuck, I just realized there's a big possibility for RE2 remake to be a switch exclusive if it comes out

So?

They own Bayo 2/3, same way Sony owns MGS4. WHy? Because they fucking funded it, you humongous retard.

>there is a big possibilty

This says everything. Bayonetta is owned by Sega but Nintendo have funded 2/3 of the franchise at this point. Sony and Microsoft doesn't care about hardcore games.

>Sony owns MGS4
Sony owns nothing, it was Kojimas decision to release the game only on ps3.

Console fanboys are faggots

>have separate consoles out on the market
>market each one to be better than the other
>release games for all of them anyways
I don't understand this at all. I get why there needs to be separate consoles, but the game market seems to forget this as well. Let's not forget the fact nobody makes fucking PC games anymore, and when they port it to PC, you might as well have bought the fucking console version anyways, cuz they did fuck all to it to make it a PC port

Man, I can't wait for the PC release now he's out of Konami

It has a high chance to get a Definitive Edition on current platforms, since releasing old stuff on new things is now pretty popular.

Nice, I hope it comes bundled with Bayo 2.

And Goldeneye, while we're asking for the impossible.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninja_Gaiden_3#Ninja_Gaiden_3:_Razor's_Edge

Aren't people playing it on PC with a high setting emulator?

How many more times do you need someone to explain to you that they own the assets they paid for? Nintendo paid for Bayo 2's development, so the assets created with their money is tied to Nintendo. If Bayo 3 is the same situation, you won't see the game coming out on other consoles.

LEGO City is probably the only exception I can think of and I wonder how they talked Nintendo through about releasing the game on other consoles. Did Nintendo pay for development in exchange for exclusivity on Wii U, but had to talk it over again with Switch? Maybe the Switch port was made for free for Nintendo in exchange for rights to release the game on other systems? Really, this is the only game that's an exception here.

How about the Resident Evil exclusive deals?

I can't wait to play Donkey Kong 64 on my Xbox

Ps2 version of RE4 looks and plays like ass you fucking dumbass

Sure, midnight club runs worse on gamecube, but generally speaking Gamecube exclusives flat out looked AND ran better than ps2 games. When re4 got ported, every department took a hit.