One of the key gameplay elements is to avoid getting hit

>one of the key gameplay elements is to avoid getting hit
>NO FUCKING DODGE BUTTON

Why do you retarded faggots want one of these pieces of shit again?

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How can someone be this fucking retarded? Genuinely curious.

git gud

>not devil bringing every faggot in your path

>waaaaa! I just came from my 4th souls game in a row but DMC1 just rekt my shit wtfffffffffffffff ablooo blooo

GIT

Huh, but there is one?

>key gameplay element is to avoid getting hit
>wants a single button that instantly executes a universal dodge that grants you I-frames to muscle through literally every attack in the game instead of actually having to MOVE OUT OF THE WAY of attacks

Soulsbabbies

What did he mean by this?

Now I havent played dmc4 in years nor am I a big fan of the series but wasnt there a dodge button?

It's fucking unusable when you're fighting one enemy and you have to dodge another one. Bayonetta is where it's fucking at. Even Metroid Prime l, a first person fucking game, had a better dodging fucking mechanic.

user it's called R1 + X + analog stick

also jumping has i-frames, and Dante has Trickster and Royal Guard

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Neat

Okay faggot now show me one where there's a fucking hoard of enemies and Nero has to dodge one while fighting another. It can be pulled off but it's fucking inconvenient.

>It's fucking unusable when you're fighting one enemy and you have to dodge another one
Why would it be unusuable?

>there was an user who unironically thought this was scripted

near unusable when facing multiple foes

>bayonetta
>literally just mash dodge to win because there's virtually no cooldown, punishment for pressing dodge when no attack was going to hit you, or any sort of mechanic that prohibits you from hitting dodge over and over
>fucking witch time if you're not playing on infinite climax
>doesn't matter what direction you dodge in, you can fucking dodge from out of enemy fire/attacks INTO it and get the dodge because lol I-frames

>Bayonettafag needs a dedicated dodge button with shitton of i-frames that also slows down time to even play an action game

>>literally just mash dodge to win because there's virtually no cooldown, punishment for pressing dodge when no attack was going to hit you, or any sort of mechanic that prohibits you from hitting dodge over and over

Literally wrong. Open up the game, keep pressing the dodge button, see what happens. Not even defending the OP, he's retarded, but don't lie.

So don't play on anything below fucking Infinite Climax, you casual cunt.

What, for real?

I don't understand your problem at all, I had no trouble dodging multiple enemies in my experience at all.
Maybe when inexperienced or inattentive, you won't notice the enemies getting close or starting up their attacks?

if only you had a bunch of aoe and launcher moves or something.

>dodging involves more than just hitting a button
YAMEROOOOOO

You have plenty of options besides spamming dodge. You can back away, you can attack, you can jump, you can use enemy step, etc. God help you if you ever tried to play God Hand.

Jump has i-frames, also enemies in dmc4 are meek as fuck
/threading my own post because this thread is shit

>tfw playing GodHand for the first time and executing my first successful duck

>blitz
>groups of knights
>chimera'd assaults

I've never understood this "DMC4's enemies are all punching bags!" meme.

But souls roll doesn't necessarily I-frame you? I fucking rolled past the Giant Lord and apparently his swords hit box is so large it reaches behind him because mid dodge I got killed.

when I was fighting Berial, I fucking swear to fuck I wished I was playing as Bayonetta instead. I'm angry.

Only 3 specific enemies that don't even show up that often.

>jump at him
>slash at his face
>Jump on his body to i-frame through his extremely telegraph moves (all of them)
Try Cerberus faggot

>knights
>don't show up that often

u fookin wot

You don't stand in the middle of a group of enemies you fucking loser

Enemies can't even start attacks if they aren't on your screen.
I feel absolutely guilty pointing the camera away from revknights.

>blitz
Appears rarely but one of the few exceptions.
>Groups of knights
Multiple punching bags are still punching bags
>chimera'd assaults
Punching bag that swings its arms every 5 seconds, you can mitigate these encounters by killing the chimeras first too

Must be rough being so bad

Meanwhile in Ninja Gaiden

but what if I'm slashing away at him mid-air and he attacks? Bayonetta can dodge that

Interrupt him with the Devil Bringer.

Buy enemy step and jump on his body. Buy double jump. Buy Help Breaker (the plunge move RB+Forward+Y in the air) and use it to dodge. Grapple at him again since it has i-frame

Seriously are DMC4 even hard for you?

Wait a minute, this is the same shitter who made a thread yesterday and showed he was playing on automatic mode too

I love both Bayo and DMC and Transformers Devastation (kill me, it's good) but god damn if Bayofags haven't ruined expectations of beat-em-up action games. I'd argue that DMC is in some ways actually MORE forgiving with respect to avoidance, it's just that you have to be more creative than mashing dodge.

>table hopper
>royal guard
>invincibility frames on jumps
>me responding to obvious and shit bait

Its funny cause DMC3 trickster actually gives you i-frames

Dude, like lol, just kill the enemies then before they hit you like lol just git gud.

Since this is a DMC4 thread I may as well ask, is there a trick to the first true Dante fight? He doesn't seem to leave himself open to attacks unless I DT and interrupt him. One dodge isn't enough so should I go for attacks after a certain attack of his?

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But it's not? It's tricky at first but no harder than getting jump cancels and the like down.

His stinger leaves him open and he doesn't do anything in RG.
I recall a method to bait out Stingers but it's been a while.

He's vulnerable when
>shooting
>jump
>stinger
>having RG on
You can bait the first two by shooting him and jump. He will mimic you, then rail him in and combo.
As for stinger he will do it after he dodge your moves, so ready your finger

>he doesn't know
you mean something like the beginning of THIS video?
youtube.com/watch?v=hjsuGB3S92Q

or perhaps something like this:
youtube.com/watch?v=DYSANWzwJjQ

I think you're mad just because you havent figured out how to git gud yet.

OH HO

Cool thanks, but what's RG?

Royal guard.
He can't counter devil bringer.

I'm a piece of shit

it's been a while since an OP made me laugh out loud.

>being this bad

Right I just remembered after my post, thanks.

What's safe to do when he's in RG using either character? The few times he ruined me with it have dissuaded me from experimenting

There is a cooldown when you press the 5th dodge you dumb cunt. Play the game before you talk shit pleb.

Only Nero's arm moves works against RG

The only dodging issue I had was in dmc4SE where vergil was only in the enemy's face the whole time without a move to back off unless you went DT. I remember he had one in 3 though

Post some Nevan combos, the best weapon across all DMC games

>what is table hopping
>what is royal guard

Lads DMC4SE gives me a ton of blue and red orbs should i use them or ignore them for my first run?

Vergil's teleport can be used from virtually every move. You can use it to dodge since it has some iframes

It's times like this that I'm reminded that not all of Sup Forums is neo/v/ and there are actually still a few oldfags out there that actually play vidya and have gotten gud.

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You want to get blue and purple shit, those things carry over, and you need them for harder difficulties.
You buy some with red orbs. The rest are hidden in areas and behind hidden missions.

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I wish there was sound

Do what you want. If you're a scrub you'll get your ass kicked regardless. Red orbs can get you blue and purple orbs, and proud souls let you buy moves.

Use red orbs to buy health and DT upgrades, ignore the other items. Use Proud souls to buy whatever you want. Everything carries over between characters and difficulties.

I cant wait for the special edition on PC


I just beat DMC3 on my PS2 a few weeks ago and god this looks so crisp compared to how grainy the PS2 is

RIP Dango. He got too gud.

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I played it on PS3 and the game doesn't even feel outdated at all to me. Everything is so handcrafted and detailed that it still looks good. Can tell it's an older game, but it's not offensive on the eyes or anything. Gonna buy again for PC.

Have you done your Yearly S-rank run on the first game yet? You HAVE at least beaten the game on Dante Must Die as well, right? You're not one of these nu-DMC fans who only plays the 3rd and 4th while pretending the first is off in this different dimension? Good good, just making sure. Stay SSStylish.

Another question for DMC4: What's the best way to integrate EX into fights? I usually end up revving up the sword during downtime but always forget about it in the heat of battle. I saw a skill that allows a full charge after attacks with proper timing.

Muscle memory pretty much. Keep your finger on that L2 button

Fuck man, seeing those webms makes me regret not getting good at gunslinger back in the days, don't know why but It just never clicked with me. Once we get the new Collection ports I'll make sure to make an effort this time around lol

This is the power of nintenchildren...

It's funny cuz bayo has a dedicated dodge button and is way worse.

please don't compare dmc4 with 3, ty

God Dango was such a showman

>:59 seconds in
>kills enemy on the roof
>suddenly, a wild pikachu using quick attack all over the room
>he tracks it calmly with target lock
>at the end of it's attack sequence he bitchslaps it away like it was nothing
>applaud taunts it for the 'flashy display'

so fucking kino.

you just get used to pressing L2, consistently getting the full charge every time is nearly impossible though so you'll usually just have 1 charge which still isn't bad

if you think a Sup Forumsirgin did this, you're dumber than you look

Practice the timing over and over. You can use EX or Max-Act on literally any attack using the sword, including mid-combo or during a special.

fuck sake user, its a non issue every decent player can dodge.
what do you want next, press A to get SSS rank?

I guess right now I'm too worried about letting my combo meter drop coming fresh off from DMC3, unless revving can maintain a combo and I never noticed.

When will the remastered remaster edition release?

lmao dude I'm terrible at dmc and I had no trouble with it

DMC4 casualness the fuck out of the style meter and it now takes an eternity for it to drop, don't worry.

Also the idea is that you tap rev at the end of every hit to get an instant chunk of the meter, not mashing to build it during fights.

There's actually two dodge buttons. Rolling and jumping give you i-frames

So after each hit of, say, a basic four-hit combo, that's four revs? I would have thought it would interrupt a combo.

WHAT THE FUCK IS i-frames?????

The crazy alien-looking hell weapons are the best. Love using both this and Artemis.

I know, but I would still prefer to be able to back off an enemy. I guess it's just a preference

invincibility frames.

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Dodge buttons are for casuals.