Will games ever be art? More than just mere consumerist entertainment?

Will games ever be art? More than just mere consumerist entertainment?

Since videogames are just a combination of artforms, like film, id say youd have to be a huge brainlet to not see that videogames are already art

>press button on plastic toy and pixels move durr art

hopefully not
the last thing the industry needs is a bunch more pretentious cunts making trash because MUH ART

Some games like Yume Nikki are pretty abstract and artistic. But just like in film and music, it's the small indie products that have artistic value. You won't find it in the big blockbusters

>chink trash
>art

some games are art but they're trash desu

I remember 2007 when it seemed like every other game coming out featured a new moment that made it seem like games really were becoming art. The nuke scene in Call of Duty, guilting you in into feeling bad about destroying an inanimate cube in Portal, Bioshock attacking an entire fucking political philosophy.

The passion just seems gone. It's all just meeting expected revenue for developers nowadays, that's why it feels like the medium has stopped developing.

The "games as art" fucks were far less cancerous than the current trend of treating games as fucking slot machines.

They already were, until they died

as long as DLC, microtransactions and lootboxes exist... no. So basically no, never.

The 90s was the last time video games were actually art. That was the only time developers made games for the sake of the game and actually innovated in something that wasn't more shitty "business models".

video games are toys. is tickle-me-elmo art? there's your answer

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Define "art", faggo. There is no one arbiter who decides what is or isn't art. Someone could look at a video game and say that's nothing more than consumerist entertainment, someone else could see the same game as a work of art.

He's talking about general higher critical consensus. Y'know, like the Eberts of the future will eventually be forced to acknowledge the medium is higher art, or at least can produce higher art from time to time.

>art

Virtual reality will (are?) be art
Video games won't

While I agree that games aren't art, especially in their modern form, this is a terrible example. Tickle me elmo is far from as deep or complex.

It will never be art as long as people only judge games on their "fun" level aka how many particle effects and bing bings it has, as if that was the only possible emotion someone could derive from media.

You literally just described a movie as well.

I dunno man, What Remains of Edith Finch is pretty much art.

they're already art. hopefully they will never recognized as art though

Most movies aren't art, but there's a good amount of art movies unlike games.

name 46 movies that you have to interact with to progress through