Under Night Thread

Back on the saddle.
Crossover news in a couple hours.

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> in a couple hours seth will not be announced

System update underway, pass will be vee as soon as it finishes

Seth/Orie is still my constant guess until both get in.
But with Gordeau beating them to the punch, I might add Carmine into that little line-up

Room is up now too

It's going to be Yuzu

I wish I could understand charge characters.

It's not gonna be Yuzu.

dash C is the best reversal.

It's gonna be Yuzu

but they're less complicated than motion characters?

I can't do the motions, for some reason.

To be fair, Vatista is pretty tough in that category too

Yo these CS conversions

Some people have an easier time with them. My brain has problems doing them as well.

How's your connection?
It's damn near ideal on my end

seems fine

Shame there's not too many others to share a decent connection then.
I'd do this all night

was that not the plan with the character announcement being so soon?

That's in 8 hours though.
Rather be awake for the shitshow that occurs afterwards.

I thought it was at 5:00 ?

Is it?

according to this srk article it is. shoryuken.com/2017/12/12/blazblue-cross-tag-battles-playstation-experience-trailer-reveals-new-gameplay-changes-next-character-reveals-scheduled-for-friday-december-15th/

Morning friends! How is everyone?

Guess I mistook it for the usual French Bread stream times

my shits getting pushed in.

Okay okay I'm awake Hippie damn

LAG DOES NOT HOLD SWAY OVER ME ANYMORE
Unless we have another week-long episode like that again, god forbid.

Almost forgot why I took a break.
Hildafag, watch this guy practice some Hilda stuff. This is the programmer and head PR guy for the series and he's an enormous Hildafag but he's been exclusively playing Enkidu/Wagner online these days.
youtube.com/watch?v=PgbECR9TgBk

Start from 2:33:45 to watch him lab around for a bit, just a visualization on what constitutes as some upper level Hilda combos

Most interesting. I have some studying to do of this

Mind you, the practice session doesn't last too long

>Still holding the pin in block pressure
I'd understand if you were doing it during your own pressure but if you're got your ass stuck in the corner, you might want to reevaluate which button you're holding hildafag. You gotta to get a feel for the distance you want merk to be pushed back and then stick with a normal that can contest his pressure starting up again. That and I guess not being broke open like that. You might say I have it easy because I have a DP but I hardly use it other than to bait out hits for an EX-Cancel

The Salaryman gods send mixed messages today. On one hand my paperwork for me to bring in my ps4 is getting through but on the other hand the head of our account just banned chew. This caused a lot of mad today.

> he uses chew
I mean I would understand if this was a 1920's baseball game but come on son.

This ain't yo blog

this

And on that note, can Hilda reverse beat back into her lights if she does the heavy follow-ups?

Just trying to be social. Not much else I can do while I try and figure out how the fuck to even get a Merk round.

>shit is near impossible

I've given you the tips right here, multiple times. Try to reverse beat and work around some frames. If you can't practice on the weekends, then take some time off the lobbies to learn some new strings, frame traps, combos, and proper defense. You can assign the CPU merk to do a regular string or something and then work your way around the best way to fight back against it. The tools are there, you're just intent on learning the wrong way.
I mean sure, I enjoy throwing my head against a wall and slamming it against it until I get a win but my excuse is that instead of practicing, I look up a ton of pro matches to supplement my knowledge. I suggest you do the same and try to smooth out the edges of your play.

I can't really find a stuffing button to win his trades. If I had that I would have a better chance in this corner hell

Well first things first, you shouldn't try shit on wake-up. You have to respect the wake-up. You can pushblock all you want but sometimes, you might want him to be somewhat closer after an unsafe move and have your turn to attack.
Hell I didn't think Hyde had a real answer to merk's pressure aside from 2A and I just recently learned the magic of 5B after five months after being too scared to use it.

What do you mean reverse beat?

canceling strong attacks to weak attack C-A.

I just gave this lesson to icey last night

canceling 5C or 3C? Because clock into jab would require a funky scenario

That's for you to experiment and find out, man.
But if you haven't noticed, we've been cancelling a lot of our moves from heavy-medium to lights.

whiff canceling. like I do all the time with 5[C] into 5A

fuckin 4 broke first round. Have no idea why I just replaced the whole joy a few months ago

And, I guess having no respect on wake-up and eating DPs

623 is so damn slow for Hilda. I have to buffer that shit years before I want to use it

Well from the videos I'm watching it looks like an optimization tool since it gives you a wallbounce.

And I know I NEED to get good with it but damn is it annoying to have to mash that shit out 2 moves ahead of time

What you need is a healthy dose of watching people better than you play your main.
evernote.com/pub/iiee209/unielst#st=p&n=9428b9d4-15a7-4468-bb12-e1245e03e9e2

Welcome back to the wall, tune

Seems like a lot of people struggle in the Hilda Merk matchup through this is giving me ideas.
Like fireball into orb seems like a fairly safe option

I legitimately thought I'd be safe with veil off if I put out the 22C first.

Get inspired.
Watch the match-up against merk by all means but see how she's played against others.

Nice

I got a win against merk. I'm at true peace... until next time.

Lucky bastard

Let that inspire you to learn better combos and conversions

Tune you know that meterless 623 has no invulnerability right? You woke up with that twice.

Congrats.

Got a lot of wood to chop this weekend.

There must be something that wins me a trade to escape corner hell. There is no way French Bread would just give Merk an infinite safe pressure loop against Hilda. I bet there is a punish SOMEWHERE

Well he goes for the overhead in that situation and I never did it in the pass so merk wasn't ready for it. It was the right thing to do, and it was successful the first time based on our match/player history and experience.

Bad decision don't do it. Also I caught you out of it the second time.

I'm sure there is.
You just ain't working hard enough.

But no the first time. Why did you get hit? Answer: I never DP in the pass, I accept any and all meaty pressure. You simply wasn't ready for a DP in that situation because you are so used to just going in on me as you please. It was successful in that situation. It may have been one time but the end result was a win for me. It was the right thing to do or else I would have lost.

I am too working are enough. I just can't find the 1 damn frame were it's possible.

And it will be one damn frame

damn connection dropped me from lobby

I admit that it wasn't the best time to be trying out new blockstrings against a Phonon

It was the wrong thing to do because it has NO invulnerability. The only reason that worked is because I miss timed my meaty. If I hadn't, you would have eaten a full combo. Don't wake with the dp if you don't have meter.

Why are you telling me as if I always wake up with DP? How many times have I woke up with a DP in the pass? The fact that you miss time you meaties is more than enough reason to DP since I'm respecting unsafe stuff. Just accept the lost. This is nothing to moan over when you consistently beat the entire lobby regularly. And I don't follow order from a monster!

fine. continue making bad decisions. more wins for me.

>continue making bad decisions.
Bad decision? It worked, lol. How many times have I DP'd in the pass? You haven't answered that question yet. Could it be that Merk doesn't like losing to people he beats on a regular basis? Are you salty? I'm not even worthy of this but thanks.

I'm just trying to explain why mashing non invulnerable shit on your wake up is a bad idea. If you want to continue doing that I won't stop you. I certainly haven't been able to stop Icy from doing it, but he probably likes losing.

Please understand that it was ONE TIME and I have never did it in the pass. Until you accept that this will go on.

I understand it was one time, I'm just trying to help.

Getting pretty late. I'm going to call it a night. Will hit the lab hard this weekend and hopefully have something to harvest a solid W.

Fun week GGs Friends! Wish me luck

Make yourself proud.

Sorry, I didn't know what to do to reset.

You can't help when it was ONE TIME. You help people who do it multiple times as if it will work in that situation. I already explained that you pressure was a meaty attack. I know the definition (terminology) of what a meaty attack is, what its purpose is. You got DP once in that situation and THAT'S IT man. Stop making this bigger than it is when there is no evidence of me doing the same thing in the pass.

I'm not saying I don't want your help on the Merk match up, I'm saying that this work in a situation once. You screwed up your timing and you lost to me for the first time in a very long time.

your constant miss spelling of past as pass is really triggering me.

Glad to know I'm not the only one

Did you guys get booted?

It's the usual time we end, I think people are just signing off.

Well, I guess it was time for that too.
I think that's enough then.

Well I'm sorry. English isn't my first language, but to honest with you, I'm misspelling and misusing it without realizing. My English is usually much better than this.

I'm done for tonight. Until next time. This debate has distracted me from the game so I'm going to play some Star Ocean. I'm sorry, Merk, I came off as very defensive. Please forgive me.

It's fine. gg's.

lobby collapse?

As expected

maybe they'll announce that those types of issues won't happen in crosstag. And maybe they'll announce seth too. A man can dream.

I'm not sure who to expect anymore on the BB/UNI side. Guess it's kind of exciting. What we do have, like 2 hours left?

yeah I think. Not sure If I wanna stay up for it since the lobbies down.

I probably won't, I was getting tired anyway. It ain't worth it to stay up 2 more hours for a minute and a half video.
I'll probably see yall in the inevitable threads to come though.